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Re: Interesting Chemical Reaction (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:34:15 -0500 > From: ghio(a)temp0203.myriad.ml.org (Matthew Ghio) > Subject: Re: Interesting Chemical Reaction > > Because the thermodynamics assume a *closed* model. The base assumption of > > your model is that it is closed. This means that not only the mirror, and > > the two focii are in the system, but also the light source. When taken as a > > whole the entropy is constant. Now if you allow the light to pass through > > the mirror from outside an initial axiomatic assumption, a closed system, > > is broken. > > Assume that the mirrors completely surround the objects, and that the only > light source is IR thermal radiation, and that the mirrors are insulated > from the outsite world, so we can assume a closed system. > > By the laws of optics, one focus should get warmer than the other, but by > the law of entropy they must remain at the same temperature. That's the > paradox. No, the total energy of the *system* stays constant, not individual componants which are free to heat up or cool down as the energy in the system is moved around. The total entropy of the lenses, the cold foci, and the warm foci are what stays constant. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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US Tried Same Tricks With Cuba
by Eric Cordian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

While the US Government tries to whip up public opinion for the mass murder of more Iraqis, filling the press with inflammatory statements, most of which are based on no new information, and the inability to prove negatives, newly declassified records demonstrate that such antics have been used by the government before. Should the US, claiming to represent "the will of the whole world," launch an unprovoked military strike against Iraq, based on some vague claim that Iraq has not had its industrial infrastructure disemboweled to the point where it will never again be able to perform even the simplest chemical or biological laboratory work, I would hope that all thinking non-sheep in this country would avail themselves of every covert opportunity to monkey-wrench the US War Machine. UN economic sanctions demanded by the US against Iraq have already directly resulted in the deaths of over 1,000,000 Iraqis of all ages. ----- WASHINGTON (AP) -- America's military leaders signed off on a scheme in 1963 to provoke Fidel Castro into attacking the United States so that retaliating U.S. forces could squash him ``with speed, force and determination,'' newly declassified records show. The records were among 600 pages opened at the National Archives by a government agency, the Assassination Records Review Board, to help researchers into John F. Kennedy's Nov. 22, 1963, assassination explore the possibility of a Cuban connection and to ``put the assassination into its historical context.'' Some Cuban involvement has been theorized because of slain suspect Lee Harvey Oswald's association with the Fair Play for Cuba Committee. ``These military records further demonstrate how high on the U.S. government's radar screen getting rid of the Castro government was in the early 1960s,'' said John R. Tunheim, a federal judge in Minnesota and the board's chairman. The documents showed that in February 1962 the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Deputy Defense Secretary Roswell Gilpatric approved a plan to ``lure or provoke Castro, or an uncontrollable subordinate, into an overt hostile reaction against the United States.'' The attack ``would in turn create the justification for the U.S. to not only retaliate but destroy Castro with speed, force and determination,'' the memo said. It was not clear where along the chain of command the plan eventually was squelched. But by the following year, another Pentagon policy paper discussed a new scheme to make it appear that Cuba had attacked a member of the Organization of American States so that the United States could retaliate. Five scenarios were spelled out, foreseeing either real or faked Cuban attacks on a U.S. ally. One of them: ``A contrived 'Cuban' attack on an OAS member could be set up, and the attacked state could be urged to take measures of self-defense and request assistance from the U.S. and OAS.'' The paper expressed confidence that ``the U.S. could almost certainly obtain the necessary two-thirds support among OAS members for collective action against Cuba.'' The planners got cold feet, the documents show. They feared leaks. ``Any of the contrived situations described above are inherently, extremely risky in our democratic system in which security can be maintained, after the fact, with very great difficulty,'' a memo said. ``If the decision should be made to set up a contrived situation, it should be one in which participation by U.S. personnel is limited only to the most high trusted covert personnel.'' The documents were the second set about Washington's preoccupation with getting rid of Castro to be made public by the board. Late last year, 1,500 pages showed that military planners had come up with a variety of dirty tricks intended to harass or humiliate Castro. One prescribed flooding Cuba with faked photos of an overweight Castro ``with two beauties'' and ``a table brimming over with the most delectable Cuban food'' to make the point that Castro's lifestyle was richer than that of most Cubans. In the new set of papers, one prepared by the Defense Department's Caribbean Survey Group and dated Feb. 19, 1962, wanted to make Castro so fearful of an imminent U.S. attack that he would call up the Cuban militia. The purpose was ``a complete disruption of the available labor force'' for the 1962 sugar cane harvest. Another, a psychological warfare proposal dated Feb. 12, 1963, proposed the creation of an imaginary Cuban resistance leader. The paper called him ``our Cuban Kilroy.'' ``After a period of time, all unexplained incidents and actions for which credit has not been seized by some other exile group would automatically be ascribed to our imaginary friend,'' the paper said. ``At some point in time it could be leaked that the U.S. is, in fact, supporting this imaginary person.'' Eventually, the paper speculated, ``a member of the resistance in Cuba may gain sufficient stature to assume or to be given the title of this imaginary leader.'' The Pentagon documents were written after the disastrous April 1961 invasion of Cuba's Bay of Pigs by Cuban exiles trained, armed and directed by the United States. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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Re: Interesting Chemical Reaction (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Subject: Re: Interesting Chemical Reaction (fwd) > Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:43:31 -0600 (CST) > Forwarded message: > > > Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:34:15 -0500 > > From: ghio(a)temp0203.myriad.ml.org (Matthew Ghio) > > Subject: Re: Interesting Chemical Reaction > > > > Because the thermodynamics assume a *closed* model. The base assumption of > > > your model is that it is closed. This means that not only the mirror, and > > > the two focii are in the system, but also the light source. When taken as a > > > whole the entropy is constant. Now if you allow the light to pass through > > > the mirror from outside an initial axiomatic assumption, a closed system, > > > is broken. > > > > Assume that the mirrors completely surround the objects, and that the only > > light source is IR thermal radiation, and that the mirrors are insulated > > from the outsite world, so we can assume a closed system. > > > > By the laws of optics, one focus should get warmer than the other, but by > > the law of entropy they must remain at the same temperature. That's the > > paradox. > > No, the total energy of the *system* stays constant, not individual > componants which are free to heat up or cool down as the energy in the > system is moved around. The total entropy of the lenses, the cold foci, > and the warm foci are what stays constant. A couple of other points that I should have added. Your base assumption that light and heat are not the same thing is faulty. They are in fact identical so to speak of the 'law of optics' and the 'laws of thermodynamics' as different things is in error. What happens in the *real* world is that a point is reached where the amount of energy emitted by each foci exactly balances the amount of energy received by each foci. We in effect reach thermodynamic equilibrium, better known as heat death. This term means that the minimal level of disorder has been reached by the system under study and without outside intervention no change, outside quantum fluctuations, will take place. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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FC: Letter from high-tech CEOs to Feinstein: back off!
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded from Declan's list >From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> >Subject: FC: Letter from high-tech CEOs to Feinstein: back off! >X-URL: Politech is at http://www.well.com/~declan/politech/ > >=== > > January 15, 1998 >> >> >> The Honorable Dianne Feinstein >> United States Senate >> Washington, DC 21510 >> >> >> Dear Senator Feinstein, >> >> As Chief Executive Officers of leading California companies, we were >> disappointed by your >> November 5 comments at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing implying >> that >> California companies >> are ambivalent regarding your position on encryption policy. We are >> anything but >> ambivalent about an >> issue that will have a profound impact on our companies, our >> customers, the >> citizens of our country, >> and our nation itself. >> >> We are in the midst of a transformation of our society into an era >> where >> information technology is >> affecting and improving all of our lives and all of our businesses. >> Without >> effective security we put >> at risk the confidentiality of our intellectual property, the public's >> privacy >> and the nation's critical >> infrastructure. And none of us will be able to take full advantage of >> the >> opportunities being presented >> to us by the promise of global electronic commerce. >> >> And consider the burgeoning threat of personal identity theft. As >> emphasized in >> the September 1997 >> issue of Consumer Reports, "the crime is one of the fastest-growing in >> the >> nation, according to the >> California District Attorneys Association. Identity thieves make off >> with >> billions of dollars a year...." >> Strong encryption with no systemic vulnerability is the best >> protection against >> such damaging fraud. >> Indeed, the credit-card industry, as you heard in testimony before the >> Judiciary >> Subcommittee on >> Terrorism and Technology on September 3, soon will be offering >> publicly a very >> sophisticated system >> for secure credit-card transactions over the Internet. While the >> system will be >> able to reconstruct >> transactions soon after the fact in response to legitimate >> law-enforcement >> requests, it does not employ >> keys and would not comply with the kind of mandate contemplated by the >> FBI. >> >> Mandatory key recovery policies, domestically and for export, will >> make the >> United States a second >> class nation in the Information Age. >> >> We are very sympathetic to the concerns of law enforcement, and we >> greatly >> respect your continuing >> support for them. In fact, if we believed that the policy of >> mandatory key >> recovery could successfully >> prevent criminals from having access to unbreakable encryption, we >> might support >> that position. >> However, this policy cannot succeed, and in the process of failing it >> will >> sacrifice the leading role that >> the State of California is playing in the international economy. Even >> more >> important, perhaps, the >> policy will create new law enforcement and national security >> challenges because >> U.S. corporations and >> government officials will be forced to rely on unproven foreign >> encryption >> technology. Maintaining >> United States leadership in the development of state-of-the-art >> cryptography is >> in the best interests of >> U.S. national security and law enforcement. California companies and >> industries >> nationwide are >> united in opposition to domestic and export controls that jeopardize >> this >> leadership. >> >> California companies need your support to be able to meet this new day >> with a >> strong and competitive >> encryption industry. We urge you to meet regularly with >> representatives from >> our companies, in >> Washington D.C. and in California, to discuss this issue further. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> Christopher Allen >> President and CEO >> Consensus Development Corporation >> >> Bill Archey >> CEO >> American Electronics Association >> >> Jim Barksdale >> CEO >> Netscape Communications, Inc. >> >> Carol Bartz >> CEO >> Autodesk, Inc. >> >> George Bell >> CEO >> Excite, Inc. >> >> Eric Benhamou >> Chairman and CEO >> 3Com Corporation >> >> Jim Bidzos >> CEO >> RSA Data Security, Inc. >> >> Philip Bowles >> President >> Bowles Farming Co., Inc. >> >> Steve Case >> Chairman and CEO >> America Online, Inc. >> >> Wilfred J. 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My apology
by Roger J Jones 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim, I stand corrected, This must be Chem-Punks Roger J. Jones

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Re: US Tried Same Tricks With Cuba (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Eric Cordian <emc(a)wire.insync.net> > Subject: Re: US Tried Same Tricks With Cuba > Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:14:58 -0600 (CST) > WHGIII writes: > > > Grow-up! The world is a dangerious place with dangerious people in it. > > Iraq is one of those places just like Cuba was back in the '60's. > > Cuba is a pimple-sized island which in no way threatens the large > continent next to it. Perhaps not, but those Russian made and maintaned atomic ICBM's parked 90 miles off Florida certainly did... ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The most powerful passion in life is not love or hate, | | but the desire to edit somebody elses words. | | | | Sign in Ed Barsis' office | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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More on ISDN Features
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This is from UK Crypto, where the ISDN-snoop part of the EuroParl report on technologies for political control was cited and asked if true. Perhaps Jim Choate, Steve Schear and others might clarify. Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 00:09:40 +0000 To: ukcrypto(a)maillist.ox.ac.uk From: John Brooks <jbrooks(a)peeras.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: [vin(a)shore.net: EuroParl Report - NSA, Crypto, Liberty & Trade] >A draft ("consultation version") of a report by the European >Parliament's Office for Scientific and Technological Option Assessment >(STOA) entitled "AN APPRAISAL OF TECHNOLOGIES OF POLITICAL >CONTROL" has been submitted to the EuroParl's Civil Liberties and >Interior Committee. But this is all (or 99 percent) complete bollocks. >"[...] Some systems even lend themselves to a dual role as a national >interceptions network. ??? > For example the message switching system used on digital >exchanges like System X in the UK supports an Integrated >Services Digital Network (ISDN) Protocol. This allows digital >devices, e.g. fax to share the system with existing lines. The ISDN >subset is defined in their documents as "Signalling CCITT1-series >interface for ISDN access". I think this means I series - which are all public docs... >What is not widely known is that built in to the international CCITT >protocol is the ability to take phones 'off hook' Yes - ok. If you have a delinquent ISDN switch AND the totalitarian state wants to bug you AND YOU choose to use a handset which DOES NOT break the analogue path between the microphone and the ISDN NTU / TA (all standard analogue phones break the circuit, AFAIK. It's only the speakerphone gadgets that could be subverted.) Then I suppose this is possible. But who gives a s**t about the .1% of vulnerable phones. And it would be dead easy to mod them to defeat any such attempt. There are loads of easier ways to mount covert surveillance than screwing up the phone system! >and listen into conversations occurring near the phone, >without the user being aware that it is happening." ISDN is NOT a 'message switching protocol', and there is none as such on Sys X and Y, which use SS7 for inter-switch signalling anyway. The ISDN interfaces and service are only defined for the ends of various types of subscriber line, as far as I remember. What happens inside the provider network is up to the provider and is not ISDN. I'm much more concerned about the Echelon system which was (finally) reported in the Sunday Telegraph just before Xmas. This system, it is alleged, can intercept and look for keywords in ALL international comms traffic. I believe this also gets a mention in the Europarliament report. Vote early and often for freely available strong encryption!! (whatever JR mutters about 'doing him out of his livelihood' :=) ) Key escrow is another example of complete bollocks, IMHO. Cheers -jb -- John Brooks - Consultant in Data Communications, Networking and Energy Systems South Croydon, 7,CR2 7HN, UK Tel: (44) 181 681 1595 Fax: (44) 181 649 7536 The opinions expressed here are mine but are not offered as professional advice. ---------- BTW, provocative commentary on the EuroParl report by Vin McLellan, which is the source of the UK Crypto thread, is available at: http://jya.com/nsa-etc-nf.htm

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Re: Interesting Chemical Reaction
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:36:28 -0500 > From: ghio(a)temp0200.myriad.ml.org (Matthew Ghio) > Subject: Re: Interesting Chemical Reaction > Here's something to ponder: > > Consider two objects initially at the same temperature. One is at the > focus of a hemispherical mirror. An elliptical mirror with both objects > at its foci encloses the remaining space. > > Because of the spherical mirror, the first object reabsorbs most of its > heat lost by radiation, but most of the second object's radiated heat is > reflected upon the first. Hence the first object becomes warmer relative > to the second. > > The entropy here appears to decrease, but according to thermodynamics that > is impossible. Can anyone explain how it is that the total entropy would > not decrease? Perpetual motion machines built on violations of thermodynamics involving hemispherical and ellipsoidal mirrors have been around for years. They don't work. The objects do not change temperature. Trace a ray from each object. In every direction, it hits an object which is at exactly the same temperature as it is. It may be itself, or it may be the other object. But in each case, the temperature is the same in all directions. The "sky" is the same temperature as the object, so it does not change temperature.

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