December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: EMI, Van Eck, etc.
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Michael Graffam wrote: >Find the Unofficial Tempest Homepage (sorry, dont have the URL handy.. That's Joel McNamara's bountiful and ever-growing TEMPEST site: http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/tempest.html While the work of Markus Kuhn and Ross Anderson provide more recent unclassified information Joel has a standing request for any TEMPEST material that is created by research or liberated from tax-pits and fat corp labs. Some black stuff comes over the transom. RF and EM offensive and defensive weapons are whitehot in national security labs around the globe, and probably equally so in commercial cages where NDA transgressors are hoovering dual-usage technologies out of MOD's coffers like subway turnstile-suckers.

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PRZ comments
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>> begin PRZ email<<< Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:20:34 -0800 To: estone(a)synernet.com From: Philip Zimmermann <prz(a)pgp.com> Subject: PGP/NAI merger and key recovery Cc: prz(a)pgp.com Ed, I saw your recent remarks in comp.security.pgp.discuss. I'd like to make a few points. You may quote me on this. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mergers are complex operations, especially mergers of publicly traded companies of this size. NAI and TIS will not fully close the merger deal for about 60 days. Until then, there are many policy details we cannot discuss in public. NAI has no plans to incorporate TIS's key recovery technology in any version of PGP, including our business versions. I have discussed this point with NAI management. I have not changed my political values regarding privacy and crypto. I would not have allowed the sale of my company to NAI if they were going to buy PGP in order to bury PGP, as some have feared. They bought PGP because they value the reputation that PGP has earned in the industry. They want to preserve that reputation by preserving PGP's product integrity. I plan to keep watch over PGP's product integrity for the foreseeable future. NAI plans to keep publishing our source code for peer review. Source code publication in printed books is a vital part of NAI's business strategy, especially its overseas strategy. There will be an important announcement on this subject on 20 March at CeBit in Hannover Germany. -Philip Zimmermann -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 5.5.5 iQA/AwUBNQ+RzWPLaR3669X8EQLuRwCcDowyBBr32YtbsnYSHy6clTW+7CwAnjpk KnVN0NVreBNuIOyxsAcWIb40 =vY/q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>end PRZ email<<< -- ------------------- Ed Stone estone(a)synernet.com ------------------- I'm just curious, and no offense intended, but Phil's signature is bad in the signed message. I'm using PGP 5.55, and it has his key in it, and it doesn't check out. "Things that make you go 'hmmmmm'".......

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by inquiry＠asset-max.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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interNIC is a bunch of fuckwads... (fwd)
by Ken Williams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:19:15 -0800 (PST) From: Christian Hedegaard <chs(a)silcon.com> To: dc-stuff(a)merde.dis.org Cc: kemkidd(a)clearink.com Subject: interNIC is a bunch of fuckwads... A friend of mine put in a request to reg "pimpshit.com" the other day but it was DENIED by interNIC because it was deemed "innapropriate".. WHAT THE FUCK? lets see, fucker.com *isn't* innapropriate? assmaster.com isn't? what the hell crawled up their asses and died? why is a commercial corporation running the internet? why is free speech being taken away by these fuckwads? let me guess, they also will support CDA2. and any other censorship bullshit that our government tries to "protect us" with? goddamnit,. people should be able to reg whatever the fuck they want. from pussy.org, to nigger.com... I don't give a fuck if it's offensive to me or anybody, people should still have that very simple right. so, does anyone know what the story is? is interNIC going to refuse re-registration for such names as fucker.com nigger.com pussy.com etc...? or are they just refusing new registration with "innapropriate" stuff? They'd better refuse re-registration, otherwise it's totally unfair to EVERYBODY... hell, they're already being unfair to everybody.. fuckers. -- ICQ: 8141565 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It's yet another in a long series of diversions in an attempt to avoid responsibilty" -Chris Knight, "Real Genius" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Out the SPARC, through the router, down the fiber, off another router, down the T3, past the firewall... nuthin but NET" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: PRZ comments
by jim＠mentat.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Somebody quoted PRZ's message about the NAI/PGP/TIS merger deal, which puts to rest for now some of <my> concerns about the weird juxtaposition of companies, anyway. He didn't address the issue of NAI becoming a KRAP again. Anonymous quoted: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- ... > announcement on this subject on 20 March at CeBit in Hannover Germany. > > -Philip Zimmermann > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- and then s/he said: > I'm just curious, and no offense intended, but Phil's signature is > bad in the signed message. I'm using PGP 5.55, and it has his key > in it, and it doesn't check out. "Things that make you go 'hmmmmm'"....... Just a formatting problem. If you put a space before the "-Philip" the message checks just fine. There are several other copies of the message posted around the Web already with the correct formatting, and the other one I checked had the spacing right already (which is how I knew where to look on this copy). See, for example, the copy at http://jya.com . Jim Gillogly

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Re: interNIC is a bunch of fuckwads... (fwd)
by Eric Tune 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> >A friend of mine put in a request to reg "pimpshit.com" the other day but >it was DENIED by interNIC because it was deemed "innapropriate".. > >WHAT THE FUCK? lets see, fucker.com *isn't* innapropriate? assmaster.com >isn't? what the hell crawled up their asses and died? why is a >commercial corporation running the internet? why is free speech being >taken away by these fuckwads? let me guess, they also will support CDA2. >and any other censorship bullshit that our government tries to "protect >us" with? > >goddamnit,. people should be able to reg whatever the fuck they want. from >pussy.org, to nigger.com... I don't give a fuck if it's offensive to me or >anybody, people should still have that very simple right. > >so, does anyone know what the story is? is interNIC going to refuse >re-registration for such names as fucker.com nigger.com pussy.com etc...? >or are they just refusing new registration with "innapropriate" stuff? >They'd better refuse re-registration, otherwise it's totally unfair to >EVERYBODY... hell, they're already being unfair to everybody.. > >fuckers. > Don't that just suck... I was a bit pessimistic about finding fucker.com, but lo and behold, there it was, www.fucker.com ...talk about bullshit. If they will register this, they should register "pimpshit.com" too. Talk about "selective memory loss"...sheesh. I'm heading to their site (internic) to bitch about their selective and prejudicial policy "change"... Eric J. Tune paladin(a)lvcablemodem.com PGP 5.55 and 2.62 keys available upon request. DO NOT EXPORT STRONG CRYPTO BELOW...OH NO! print pack"C*",split/\D+/,`echo "16iII*o\U@{$/=$z;[(pop,pop,unpack"H*",<> )]}\EsMsKsN0[lN*1lK[d2%Sa2/d0<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<J]dsJxp"| dc`

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PRZ 'corrections'
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anonymous (from anon(a)anon.efga.org) wrote: > Anonymous (from this-will-bounce(a)zoom.nu) wrote: > > I'm just curious, and no offense intended, but Phil's signature is bad > > in the signed message. I'm using PGP 5.55, and it has his key in it, > > and it doesn't check out. "Things that make you go 'hmmmmm'"....... > You took out the space before "-Philip Zimmermann". Put it back as it > was originally and the signature verifies fine: I'm getting mighty tired of the anonymous motherfuckers posting through efga.org interfering with the attempts of the anonymous saints posting through the other anonymous remailers to spread CSM (Cluelessness, Stupidity and Misinformation) throughout the Internet. Remember: "If you're not living in space, you're taking up too much of the edge." ~ No Beer

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Re: PRZ comments
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 3/18/98 3:30 PM, Anonymous (this-will-bounce(a)zoom.nu) passed this wisdom: > >>> begin PRZ email<<< > >Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:20:34 -0800 >To: estone(a)synernet.com >From: Philip Zimmermann <prz(a)pgp.com> >Subject: PGP/NAI merger and key recovery >Cc: prz(a)pgp.com > >Ed, I saw your recent remarks in comp.security.pgp.discuss.I'd like >to make a few points. You may quote me on this. > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 The signature fails .... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNRCH4T7r4fUXwraZAQEGuAf/SkPKROnsZpZnLfZQ5uiT5RwBw2RTNeky gKEGXOlTFrDRHq00qm5xovXp7Oohw0JsqthwkVHiLLAPHJWEVtjzhgV0B291gF1p 2w/giHj6yl8sh1gExjLqb7Xe+NH3xy3myan6vCNFzcn2GG9QIIBZjEpg/noYt4GI 2mgFcauYk9mNBKi1AWJprz5O7ZS9oF/Q8om9K+CVS5ejCQXQCeeIy82hBE5Dlglg nk00fyiC9mImJo6ZdSGAM4OG7d5LiHZ4s5ZKCxai/Bf03YSm8fByEUsSLnDVmjyd xRGzpQhawCbvr6EQ0X1lPMiB36VnBp5I/sPLjm0OnuBAOOzwXUvtDw== =TkXG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys <mailto:brianbr@together.net?subject=Get%20PGP%20Key> "May God stand between you and harm, in all the empty places where you must walk." - Susan Ivonava, Babylon 5

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Fuck U Dickwads wrote: > > Those reporters who step outside of the scratch-and-sniff mentality > that guarantees a large pay-per-sniff audience of rubberneckers are > asking questions that have to do with access to 'National Security' > matters (deemed important enough to destroy the Constitution over) being > granted to individuals whose main qualification seems to be a great > set of hooters, or a sizeable donation to the correct political party. I count on TruthMonger as -my- mainstream news source. I'llKissYouOnTheLipsButIWon'tPutMyTongueInYourMouthMonger

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Re: Software license detector vans
by The Spectre 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 20:44 3/18/98 -0500, you wrote: >Standard UPS's do not operate with their batteries "on-line" but in >standby mode. Because of this you do not get any of the filtering affect >from the batteries. You can get good "online" UPS's with gel-cell battery >banks but they cost $$$. Look at some of the companies that service the >telcom industry providing UPS for switchrooms. Line conditioning on the >standard UPS's (PC Decsktop grade) is medeocere at best and are designed >for leveling out power fluctuations not for filtering data leakage. > >If Tempest is a serious concern I recomend a dual battery bank so one bank >can be charging while the other is in use. Physicial disconnects on both >battery banks between the computer and between outside power grid to >insure physicial issolation durring operations. While I agree with you in that total security is only possible if you completely isolate the system, I think that the original person posting wasn't referring to the batteries, but rather the conditioning that is going on inside the UPS. Any decent ups will put the incoming power through a "conditioner" that will filter out noise in the incoming power, and rebuild the wave so that transient sags and spikes don't get through. It stands to reason that these filters would work in reverse, since they are AC filters. Most AC circutry works equally well in reverse as forward. DC circuitry would probably filter out noise equally as well since it simply won't work in reverse for the most part, it'll simply resist any reverse current until it blows. Of course, I make no claims about noise that the transformer itself may make while it does it's filtering that someone might be able to use to determine what was filtered out. -The Spectre [SP4 w/ Clam Cluster] -http://www.anthrax.net/cos "No man is clever enough to know all the evil he does." - La Rochefoucauld

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