December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

SUCESS TICKET!!!!
by 38483580＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello! My name is Karen Liddell; I'm a 35-year-old mom, wife, and part-time accountant. As a rule, I delete all unsolicited "junk" e-mail and use my account primarily for business. I received what I assumed was this same e-mail countless times and deleted it each time. About two months ago I received it again and, because of the catchy subject line, I finally read it. Afterwards, I thought , "OK, I give in, I'm going to try this. I can certainly afford to invest $20 and, on the other hand, there's nothing wrong with creating a little excess cash." I promptly mailed four $5 bills and, after receiving the reports, paid a friend of mine a small fee to send out some e-mail advertisements for me. After reading the reports, I also learned how easy it is to bulk e-mail for free! I was not prepared for the results. Every day for the last six weeks, my P.O. box has been overflowing with $5 bills; many days the excess fills up an extra mail bin and I've had to upgrade to the corporate-size box! I am stunned by all the money that keeps rolling in! My husband and I have been saving for several years to make a substantial downpayment on a house. Now, not only are we purchasing a house with 40% down, we're going to Venice, Italy to celebrate! I promise you, if you follow the directions in this e-mail and be prepared to eventually set aside about an hour each day to follow up (and count your money!), you will make at least as much money as we did. If you can open an envelope, remove the money, and send an e-mail message, then you're on your way to the bank. Take the time to read this so you'll understand how easy it is. If I can do this, so can you! ===================================================== ===================================================== *** Print This Now For Future Reference *** The following income opportunity is one you may be interested in taking a look at. It can be started with VERY LITTLE investmentand the income return is TREMENDOUS!!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ You are about to make at least $50,000 in less than 90 days! Please read the enclosed program...THEN READ IT AGAIN!!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ THIS IS A LEGITIMATE, LEGAL, MONEY MAKING OPPORTUNITY. It does not require you to come into contact with people, do any hard work, and best of all, you never have to leave the house except to get the mail. If you believe that someday you'll get that big break that you've been waiting for, THIS IS IT! Simply follow the instructions, and your dream will come true. This multi-level e-mail order marketing program works perfectly...100% EVERY TIME. E-mail is the sales tool of the future. Take advantage of this non-commercialized method of advertising NOW!!! The longer you wait, the more people will be doing business using e-mail. Get your piece of this action!!! MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING (MLM) has finally gained respectability. It is being taught in the Harvard Business School, and both Stanford Research and the Wall Street Journal have stated that between 50% and 65% of all goods and services will be sold through multi-level methods by the mid to late 1990's. This is a Multi-Billion Dollar industry and of the 500,000 millionaires in the U.S., 20% (100,000) made their fortune in the last several years in MLM. Moreover, statistics show 45 people become millionaires everyday through Multi-Level Marketing. The enclosed information is something I almost let slip through my fingers. Fortunately, sometime later I re-read everything and gave some thought and study to it. My name is Christopher Erickson. Two years ago, the corporation I worked at for the past twelve years down-sized and my position was eliminated. After unproductive job interviews, I decided to open my own business. Over the past year, I incured many unforeseen financial problems. I owed my family, friends and creditors over $35,000. The economy was taking a toll on my business and I just couldn't seem to make ends meet. I had to refinance and borrow against my home to support my family and struggling business. AT THAT MOMENT something significant happend in my life and I am writing to share the experience in hopes that this will change your life FOREVER FINANCIALLY!!! In mid December, I received this program via e-mail. Six month's prior to receiving this program I had been sending away for information on various business opportunities. All of the programs I received, in my opinion, were not cost effective. They were either too difficult for me to comprehend or the initial investment was too much for me to risk to see if they would work or not. One claimed that I would make a million dollars in one year...it didn't tell me I'd have to write a book to make it! But like I was saying, in December of 1995 I received this program. I didn't send for it, or ask for it, they just got my name off a mailing list. THANK GOODNESS FOR THAT!!! After reading it several times, to make sure I was reading it correctly, I couldn't believe my eyes. Here was a MONEY MAKING PHENOMENON. I could invest as much as I wanted to start, without putting me further into debt. After I got a pencil and paper and figured it out, I would at least get my money back. After determining the program was LEGAL and NOT A CHAIN LETTER, I decided "WHY NOT." Initially I sent out 10,000 e-mails. It cost me about $15.00 for my time on-line. The great thing about e-mail is that I don't need any money for printing to send out the program, only the cost to fulfill my orders. I am telling you like it is, I hope it doesn't turn you off, but I promised myself that I would not "rip-off" anyone, no matter how much money it cost me! In less than one week, I was starting to receive orders for REPORT #1. By January 13, I had received 26 orders for REPORT #1. When you read the GUARANTEE in the program, you will see that "YOU MUST RECEIVE 15-20 ORDERS FOR REPORT #1 WITHIN 2 WEEKS. IF YOU DON'T, SEND OUT MORE PROGRAMS UNTIL YOU DO!" My first step in making $50,000 in 20-90 days was done. By January 30, I had received 196 orders for REPORT #2. If you go back to the GUARANTEE, "YOU MUST RECEIVE 100+ ORDERS FOR REPORT #2 WITHIN 2 WEEKS. IF NOT, SEND OUT MORE PROGRAMS UNTIL YOU DO. ONCE YOU HAVE 100 ORDERS, THE REST IS EASY, RELAX, YOU WILL MAKE YOUR $50,000 GOAL" Well, I had 196 orders for REPORT #2, 96 more than I needed. So I sat back and relaxed. By March 19, of my e-mailing of 10,000, I received $58,000 with more coming in every day. I paid off ALL my debts and bought a much needed new car. Please take time to read the attatched program, IT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE FOREVER!!! Remember, it won't work if you don't try it. This program does work, but you must follow it EXACTLY! Especially the rules of not trying to place your name in a different place. It won't work, you'll lose out on a lot of money! REPORT #2 explains this. Always follow the guarantee, 15-20 orders for REPORT #1, and 100+ orders for REPORT #2 and you will make $50,000 or more in 20-90 days. I AM LIVING PROOF THAT IT WORKS!!! If you choose not to participate in this program, I am sorry. It really is a great opportunity with little cost or risk to you. If you choose to participate, follow the program and you will be on your way to financial security. If you are a fellow business owner and are if financial trouble like I was, or you want to start your own business, consider this a sign. I DID! Sincerely, Christopher Erickson P.S. Do you have any idea what 11,700 $5 bills ($58,000) look like piled up on a kitchen table? IT'S AWESOME! A PERSONAL NOTE FROM THE ORGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM: By the time you have read the enclosed program and reports, you should have concluded that such a program, and one that is legal, could not have been created by an amateur. Let me tell you a little about myself. I had a profitable business for 10 years. Then in 1979 my business began falling off. I was doing the same things that were previously successfull for me, but it wasn't working. Finally, I figured it out. It wasn't me, it was the economy. Inflation and recession had replaced the stable economy that had been with us since 1945. I don't have to tell you what happend to the unemployment rate... because many of you know from first hand experience. There were more failures and bankruptcies than ever before. The middle class was vanishing. Those who knew what they were doing invested wisely and moved up. Those who did not, including those who never had anything to save or invest, were moving down into the ranks of the poor. As the saying goes, "THE RICH GET RICHER AND THE POOR GET POORER." The traditional methods of making money will never allow you to "move up" or "get rich", inflation will see to that. You have just received information that can give you financial freedom for the rest of your life, with "NO RISK" and "JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT." You can make more money in the next few months than you have ever imagined. I should also point out that I will not see a penny of this money, nor anyone else who has provided a testimonial for this program. I have already made over 4 MILLION DOLLARS! I have retired from the program after sending out over 16,000 programs. Now I have several offices that make this and several other programs here and over seas. By the spring we wish to market the "internet" by a partnership with AMERICA ON LINE. Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do not change it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now. Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting report to everyone you can think of. One of the people you send this to may send out 50,000...and your name will be on everyone of them! Remember though, the more you send out the more potential customers you will reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and opportunity to become financially independent, IT IS UP TO YOU NOW! "THINK ABOUT IT" Before you delete this program from your mailbox, as I almost did, take a little time to read it and REALLY THINK ABOUT IT. Get a pencil and figure out what could happen when YOU participate. Figure out the worst possible response and no matter how you calculate it, you will still make a lot of money! You will definitely get back what you invested. Any doubts you have will vanish when your first orders come in. IT WORKS! Paul Johnson, Raleigh, NC HERE'S HOW THIS AMAZING PROGRAM WILL MAKE YOU $$$$$ Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we'll assume you and all those involved send out only 2,000 programs each. Let's also assume that the mailing receives a 0.5% response. Using a good list the response could be much better. Also many people will send out hundreds of thousands of programs instead of 2,000. But continuing with this example, you send out only 2,000 programs. With a 0.5% response, that is only 10 orders for REPORT #1. Those 10 people respond by sending out 2,000 programs each for a total of 20,000. Out of those 0.5%, 100 people respond and order REPORT #2. Those 100 mail out 2,000 programs each for a total of 200,000. The 0.5% response to that is 1,000 orders for REPORT #3. Those 1,000 send out 2,000 programs each for a 2,000,000 total. The 0.5% response to that is 10,000 orders for REPORT #4. That's 10,000 $5 bills for you. CASH!!! Your total income in this example is $50 + $500 + $5,000 + $50,000 for a total of $55,550!!! REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING 1,990 OUT OF THE 2,000 PEOPLE YOU MAIL TO WILL DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AND TRASH THIS PROGRAM! DARE TO THINK FOR A MOMENT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF EVERYONE, OR HALF SENT OUT 100,000 PROGRAMS INSTEAD OF 2,000. Believe me, many people will do just that, and more! By the way, your cost to participate in this is practically nothing. You obviously already have an internet connection and e-mail is FREE!!! REPORT #3 will show you the best methods for bulk e-mailing and obtaining e-mail lists. INSTRUCTIONS: We at Erris Mail Order Marketing Businesses, have a method of raising capital that REALLY WORKS 100% EVERYTIME. I am sure that you could use $50,000 to $125,000 in the next 20-90 days. Before you say "BULL... ", please read this program carefully. This is not a chain letter, but a perfectly legal money making opportunity. Basically, this is what you do: As with all multi-level business, we build our business by recruiting new partners and selling our products. Every state in the USA allows you to recruit new multi-level business partners, and we offer a product for EVERY dollar sent. YOUR ORDERS COME AND ARE FILLED THROUGH THE MAIL, so you are not involved in personal selling. You do it privately in your own home, store or office. This is the GREATEST Multi-Level Mail Order Marketing anywhere: Step (1) Order all four (4) REPORTS listed by NAME AND NUMBER. Do this by ordering the REPORT from each of the four (4) names listed on the next page. For each REPORT, send $5 CASH and a SELF-ADDRESSED STAMPED envelope (BUSINESS SIZE #10) to the person listed for the SPECIFIC REPORT. International orders should also include $1 extra for postage. It is essential that you specify the NAME and NUMBER of the REPORT requested to the person you are ordering it from. You will need ALL FOUR (4) REPORTS because you will be REPRINTING and RESELLING them. DO NOT alter the names or sequence other than what the instructions say. IMPORTANT: Always provide same-day service on all orders. Step (2) Replace the name and address under REPORT #1 with your's, moving the one that was there down to REPORT #2. Drop the name and address under REPORT #2 TO REPORT #3, moving the one that was there to REPORT #4. The name and the address that was under REPORT #4 is dropped from the list and this party is no doubt on the way to the bank. When doing this, make certain you type the names and addresses ACCURATELY!!! DO NOT MIX UP MOVING PRODUCT/REPORT POSITIONS!!! Step (3) Having made the requested changes in the NAME list, save it as text (.txt) file in it's own directory to be used with whatever e-mail program you like. Again, REPORT #3 will tell you the best methods of bulk e-mailing and acquiring e-mail lists. Step (4) E-mail a copy of the entire program (all of this is very important) to everyone whose address you can get your hands on. Start with friends and relatives since you can encourage them to take advantage of this fabulous money-making opportunity. That's what I did. And they love me now, more than ever. Then, e-mail to anyone and everyone! Use your imagination! You can get e-mail addresses from companies on the internet who specialize in e-mail mailing lists. These are very cheap, 100,000 addresses for around $35. IMPORTANT: You won't get a good response if you use an old list, so always request a FRESH, NEW list. You will find out where to purchase these lists when you order the four (4) REPORTS. ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON ALL ORDERS!!! REQUIRED REPORTS: ***Order each REPORT by NUMBER and NAME*** ALWAYS SEND A SELF-ADDRESSED, STAMPED ENVELOPE AND $5 CASH FOR EACH ORDER REQUESTING THE SPECIFIC REPORT BY NAME AND NUMBER. ____________________________________________________ REPORT #1 "HOW TO MAKE $250,000 THROUGH MULTI-LEVEL SALES" ORDER REPORT #1 FROM: CONSUMER MARKETING 10223-B Univ. City Blvd. #197 Charlotte, NC 28213 ____________________________________________________ REPORT #2 "MAJOR CORPORATIONS AND MULTI-LEVEL SALES" ORDER REPORT #2 FROM: Kathy Smith 5312 S. E. 30 Ave. Ocala, FL 34480-7524 ____________________________________________________ REPORT #3 "SOURCES FOR THE BEST MAILING LISTS" ORDER REPORT #3 FROM: Liberty Publishing Inc. 2107 W. Commonwealth Ave. Dept. 264 Alhambra, Ca 91803 ____________________________________________________ REPORT #4 "EVALUATING MULTI-LEVEL SALES PLANS" ORDER REPORT #4 FROM: SOM CO.. 2168 S. Atlantic Blvd #101 Monterey Park, CA 91754 ____________________________________________________ CONCLUSION: I am enjoying my fortune that I made by sending out this program. You too, will be making money in 20-90 days, if you follow the SIMPLE STEPS outlined in this mailing. To be financially independent is to be FREE. Free to make financial decisions as never before. Go into business, get into investments, retire or take a vacation. No longer will a lack of money hold you back. However, very few people reach financial independence, because when opportunity knocks, they choose to ignore it. It is much easier to say "NO" than "YES", and this the question that you must answer. Will YOU ignore this amazing opportunity or will you take advantage of it? If you do nothing, you have indeed missed something and nothing will change. Please re-read this material, this is a special opportunity. If you have any questions, please feel free to write to the sender of this information. You will get a prompt and informative reply. My method is simple. I sell thousands of people a product for $5 that cost me pennies to produce and e-mail. I should also point out that this program is LEGAL and everyone who participates WILL make money. This is not a chain letter or a pyramid scam. At times you probably received chain letters, asking you to send money, on faith, but getting NOTHING in return, NO product what-so-ever! Not only are chain lettters illegal, but the risk of someone breaking the chain makes them quite unattractive. You are offering a legitimate product to your people. After they purchase the product from you, they reproduce more and resell them. It's simple free enterprise. As you learned from the enclosed material, the PRODUCT is a series of four (4) FINANCIAL AND BUSINESS REPORTS. The information contained in these REPORTS will not only help you in making your participation in this program more rewarding, but will be useful to you in any other business decisions you make in the years ahead. You are also buying the rights to reprint all of the REPORTS, which will be ordered from you by those to whom you mail this program. The concise one and two page REPORTS you will be buying can easily be reproduced at a local copy center for a cost of about 3 cents a copy. Best wishes with the program and Good Luck!

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Re: White House admits censoring Chinese dissident
by Jim Ray 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 08:42 AM 12/19/97 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: >=========== > > South China Morning Post > > December 19, 1997 > >Storm over block on Wei TV broadcast; White House red-faced after >censorship admission > >By Simon Beck > > > The Clinton administration was in the middle of a firestorm yesterday >after officials admitted blocking a global broadcast of a Wei Jingsheng >interview for fear of annoying China. > > After winning praise for receiving Mr Wei in the White House last week, >President Bill Clinton's officials were embarrassed to have to admit >blocking the broadcast on the state-owned global network Worldnet. > > Officials tried in vain to stop the government radio station, Voice of >America (VOA), from broadcasting the interview, but succeeded in blocking >it from Worldnet. > > Both broadcasting arms are run by the official US Information Agency >(USIA). ...And people still wonder why us "social Darwinists" oppose state ownership of "news" media. <sigh> I wonder if I should say "'your taxes' _or_ 'their contributions' at work." JMR -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Freedom isn't Freeh. iQEPAwUBNJqXdTUhsGSn1j2pAQHeEQfQ4oMBYBxh5Ad5X8ICkDXj/llDBDts4ybD yHlO8bMQ2TMOY3qQ6UizQX0dMntVzoHZUGJ92Lo4bfrtcCwrpHsE7wqGozpTziqj 2BZH+N5pBiyMu8mdn2PayOLuYB5xdOPuasENgBGTk07nGrDivClbPE/YQpFBQ4BJ 9GzxzVC8xSzAwnd8rV59iqbaqpLnf5iaYxhEJzAwnI7JbkOwpTTAF4XtKi1SXfm2 otBQJCzwR49vqyFEfrvCPC3STRmqJfCpyiNn/jDrJKY30/yAd0OuiX7/4cBkcPbd N4d+QqjDUJhEHXHICOTkCjjkNDl9zOS9LcvYSu7ySYMQcw== =7hi3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Timmy C. May will fuck anything that moves, but he'd rather be fucking his own mother's dead body. /''' c-OO Timmy C. May \ -

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free gifts
by joton＠indo-mail.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Hate speech and censorship
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I can warmly recommend Cyberpass. Cyberpass does not censor political speech. They provide anonymous accounts to a considerable low price. The connection is telnet with a UNIX shell and SSH support. Cyberpass is a division of Infonex InterNet Services. They have a policy "Go and get a court order" which is very unusual. They already host the OSTARA domain www.ostara.org containing stupid nazi propaganda. Others I could mention are Concentric Network Corporation and Panix - Public Network Corporation and Webcom. http://www.cyberpass.net http://www.cris.com http://www.concentric.net http://www.webcom.com. I am sure there are others who do not censor. But these are those I trust most. Most ISPs are more concerned about pornography than hate speech.

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No Subject
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Much as I agree in principle with counteracting mindless > prejudice such as that directed against Jews, and despite > the fact that I grew up among Jews and studied with my > best friend in grade school when he took his religious > lessons, the ADL has zero credibility with me for a very > good reason: This reason has zero credibility. If you want to add something to the public record, then use your real name, you ninny! Nobody will pay attention to (much less belive) an anonymous message - no credibility! ( Why do you think the Nym list was formed? So they wouldn't have to put up with anonymous traffic, that's why. A new one-of-a-kind web site has been put up that lets you see if you are one of the elite sheeple who are TIME- and LIFE-approved for partaking in public discourse: http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/spoofcentral/muted/ )

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Fwd: Dec. 16 column -- Bill of Rights
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Date: 12/18 8:38 AM Received: 12/18 11:04 PM From: Vin Suprynowicz)(by way of Hardy Macia, Vin_Suprynowicz(a)lvrj.com Reply-To: Vermont Libertarian, vtlp-list(a)catamount.com To: Multiple recipients of vtlp-list, vtlp-list(a)catamount.com This article comes from Vin Suprynowicz's mailing list. Should we have a celebrat Bill of Rights Day? -- Hardy _______________________ FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE DATED DEC. 16, 1997 THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz Our second national holiday Americans make a big hubbub over the Fourth of July. True, the victory of 1781 was an amazing triumph, and the vision of those gathered in Philadelphia five years before -- that men may rightfully form or disband governments at will, for the higher purpose of protecting our God-given individual rights -- is still worth celebrating. But that confederation of free men ended on June 21, 1788, when New Hampshire became the ninth state to ratify the new United States Constitution, making it the law of the land. At that point, the organization of free peoples created by the Declaration of Independence -- the one we still celebrate each July -- passed away. Our government school teachers tell us this was necessary because the Articles of Confederation "weren't working out." But they are woefully light on specifics. Push them, and most will mutter uncertainly some trivia about seaboard states charging tariffs on goods transshipped to landlocked states. Point out that the first landlocked states -- Vermont and Kentucky -- weren't admitted until 1791 and 1792, and they will usually fall into a puzzled, grumbling silence. Anyway, there it is: The people fell for the siren song of "federalism," accepting solemn promises that the powers of the new central government would be sharply limited to those expressly spelled out -- funding a Navy, granting patents and copyrights, coining metal money. Not much more. Fast forward 210 years. As a recipe for limited government, this Constitution now matches the creature it's supposed to describe about as well as a Chihuahua's carry-on "Pet Kennel" would fit a drooling Irish wolfhound. The prima facie proof of this failure now stares at us from every acre of the former marshland north of the Potomac, a granite necropolis and memorial park to our deceased freedoms at least a hundred times larger in manpower and frenzied ambition to control our lives than Mr. Jefferson could ever have imagined (though one suspects Mr. Hamilton would have smiled.) In the face of this unchained monster, our thin remaining hope against outright tyranny lies in the fact that Rhode Island and North Carolina (bless them) outright refused to ratify that Constitution until a Bill of Rights was added -- while Massachusetts, Maryland, South Carolina, New Hampshire, Virginia And New York all ratified only on the condition that some such set of amendments be quickly appended, as was solemnly promised. And so, on the day we should probably celebrate as our SECOND great national holiday, on Dec. 15, 1791, Virginia became the 11th state to ratify the first 10 proposed amendments -- Mr. Madison's "Bill of Rights" -- though a better name might be the "Bill of Prohibitions" on government conduct. This Dec. 15, as usual, that anniversary passed with the kind of afterthought mention on the daily news and propaganda broadcasts usually reserved for "On this day 70 years ago, Commander Perry reached the North Pole" -- about as much attention as was paid, two days later, to the 224th anniversary of the great event of Dec. 17, 1773 ("The most magnificent movement of all. There is a dignity, a majesty, a sublimity in this last effort of the patriots that I greatly admire," said future president John Adams of the tax-resisting militiamen who that day dumped 342 chests of tea into Boston harbor.) An establishment of religion To their credit, Aaron Zelman and J.E. Simkin of the little Milwaukee-based Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership battled for months this year to get city councils around the country to adopt proclamations honoring Dec. 15 as Bill of Rights Day -- succeeding with a small, proud band which now includes Randolph County, N.C.; Cobb County, Ga.; the City of Asheboro; the town of Rainier, Wash.; and spunky little Valley City, N.D. JPFO has also just brought out the latest in their line of "Gran'pa Jack" comic books, "It's Common Sense to Use Our Bill of Rights ... Or Lose Them!" suitable to explain the Bill of Rights to any kid, aged 6 to 60 ... of which more later. But against Mr. Zelman's admirable efforts, the question remains: Why do the folks now in charge of our national offices -- including the government schools -- so pass over and ignore the historic ratification of those 462 little words which have made us for two centuries the envy of men and women seeking freedom the world around -- this Bill of Rights? Because they fear folks might actually read them? They're in plain English, you know. It was never intended we should need an attorney to tell us what they mean -- let alone that we should tolerate courts telling us they don't mean what we can plainly read there for ourselves. It couldn't be because they're afraid we'd actually go read the First Amendment, could it, which begins, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion ..."? What does it mean for a government to "establish" a religion? Why, clearly, to establish one religion as that enforced by the government, against all others ... like the Church of England. Let us suppose, for instance, that an extremist cult were to arise, which holds it is a mortal sin to plow under any weed, or to destroy any bug or small verminous rodent which we may find on our own property, providing the priests of this extremist cult should decide (based on divine revelation) to list that weed or bug in their own scriptures as "threatened" or "endangered." That would be no problem, so long as the priests of this weird sect had no legal authority to do anything but preach against us from their own, private pulpits. But let us now suppose the government were to erect a headquarters for this sect in Washington at taxpayer expense, and issue them guns and badges, empowering them to enter onto our private property, arresting and jailing us and seizing our land and homes if they should find us killing our own weeds and bugs, to which no one else can demonstrate any legal title? That would be "an establishment of religion," wouldn't it, and thus banned under the First Amendment? Why, such extralegal usurpations might even tempt government agents to eventually storm, burn and massacre harmless citizens in their own churches of a Sunday afternoon, for practicing some religion not approved by Washington, mightn't it? Thank goodness we have a First Amendment to prevent that kind of thing. So (start ital)that(end ital) couldn't be the one they don't want us to read. It couldn't be because they're afraid we'd actually go read the (start ital)Second(end ital) Amendment, could it? The one that says "A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"? Shall not be infringed What's that word "free" doing in there? Mr. Madison knew full well that no citizen-militia was necessary to protect the security of the kingdoms of France or Russia. Mercenary, professional, standing armies did just fine to protect their borders -- at the price of their own disarmed populaces being subject to tyranny under the same muskets. Only a "free" country requires that the bulk of the potential armed forces consist of free, private citizens better armed than the men commanded by the central government, just as the unofficial "Fairfax County Militia" of Messrs. Washington and Mason had been better armed than the special militia or "National Guard" available to obey the orders of the crown's "governor of Virginia" in 1776 ... else the Revolution still fresh in Mr. Madison's mind could never even have been launched, let alone won. What the Second Amendment clearly means is that -- as a guarantee against the threat of internal government tyranny -- any law-abiding American adult not obviously insane or severely retarded has a right to own and carry with him -- down to the federal courthouse, to a rally in Washington City, or onto an airplane -- a belt-fed 30-caliber Browning machine gun, or a shoulder-launched heat-seeking missile. (You're not going to argue we could stand up to the FBI, the ATF, or the 87th Airborne with a Ruger 10-22 and a few old muzzle-loaders, I hope?) And when it says that right shall not be "infringed," that means neither the weapon, nor its ammunition, nor the buying or transport of either, may be taxed, regulated, or subjected to any "permitting" process. The government can't even require that the store clerk who sells me my machine gun "check my ID," or write down my name. Certainly, under a Constitution so amended, no congresswomen would ever be allowed to ban the import and private purchase of certain militarily useful firearms because their pistol grips and removable magazines makes them (start ital)too(end ital) useful to freedom-fighters ... would they? Nor would any president be able to remain in office if he ordered surplus government M-1 Garands and Colt 1911s shredded and melted to keep them out of the hands of our own civilian militia ... or banned the re-importation of American-made Garands and M-1 carbines without even submitting a bill to Congress, instead merely signing some royal decree, or so-called "executive order" ... would he? No; that's all clear enough. (start ital)That(end ital) can't be the one they don't want us to read. An impartial jury Could it be they're afraid we might read the (start ital)Sixth(end ital) Article of Amendment, which begins, "In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury ..." The high court, of course, now holds this doesn't mean what it appears to mean to us non-lawyers, at all. Rather than see the courts grow too crowded, her eminence Sandra Day O'Connor now informs us no trial is required if the state agrees to jail us for fewer than 180 days ... or even for fewer than 180 days on (start ital)each charge(end ital). But crowded courts are a self-correcting problem, once all defendants are guaranteed a "speedy" trial. The correct answer is to force every case to trial before a jury within one week ... to ban all "plea bargains." (Do we really believe the cops arrest all those people on the wrong charges?) Forced to pick and choose the few cases they really have time to try, prosecutors would be forced (under the existing "speedy trial" provision) to promptly release the 95 percent of federal defendants who have committed no violent felony, but only violated some arbitrary bureaucratic edict. Aw, gee. And by the way, what's that word "impartial" doing in there? The British common-law jury system with which the Founders were familiar made no provision for the judge to ask potential jurors in advance whether they favored the enforcement of the law in question ... which is why the misguided government could never get any convictions in the North in the 1850s on charges of violating the hated Fugitive Slave Act, any more than a government saddled with the same jury system could convict William Penn in London, some years before, on charges of preaching a Quaker sermon. Importantly, it is only the (start ital)defendant(end ital) who is guaranteed an impartial jury -- we find here no guarantee that "the state shall enjoy ..." When the judge asks the jury pool whether anyone would have a problem sending someone to jail for smoking pot, or for owning an ancient collectable World War One machine gun without having previously submitted his fingerprints to the ATF, or for declining to pay a federal income tax on wages -- and when that judge promptly sends home anyone who raises his or her hand -- he is not empaneling an "impartial" jury; he is pre-screening a jury guaranteed to be predisposed to the government's case. He is violating the Sixth Amendment. The original term for a jury trial was a trial "en pays," or "on the country." The jury is supposed to represent a cross-section of our fellow citizens. Unless a law has broad -- 92 percent, actually -- public support, the chances are that a randomly-selected group of 12 citizens will include one member (8.33 percent of the panel) who finds the law a hateful abomination, and who will refuse to convict. Hung jury: Defendant walks. That is the meaning, and the intent, of the Sixth Amendment prohibition on government taking away our life, liberty or property without "a speedy trial ... by an impartial jury." And what about the Tenth Amendment, which specifies, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." This means 90 percent of the laws, agencies, orders and regulators now pouring forth from Washington City like demons breaching the walls of hell are null and void -- deformed, fatherless creatures, apt to melt away like Goblins if ever tested in the harsh daylight of the Bill of Rights. 'Which one? Point to it' It doesn't matter whether you like these rights and prohibitions, consider that they might tempt disorder, or think it's a good idea to "allow" them -- any more than it matters whether you think we should "allow" the sun to rise tomorrow, or the birds to fly. It doesn't work that way. The several sovereign states only ratified the Constitution on our behalf on condition that these protections of our unalienable rights against government "infringement" be made the highest law of the land. Without the first 10 amendments, the whole contract is null and void ... without them, there IS no legitimate federal government, and their tax collectors become nothing but common thieves, subject to being shot on sight if ever caught outside their federal asylum on the Potomac. Any government official who declines to protect and defend these amendments, in their clear meaning, is a traitor, in violation of the sacred oath they all take to protect and defend this Constitution. Such persons should be indicted -- impeached, if they are high officials -- and, only if convicted by either the Senate or an impartial citizen jury, hanged. This includes a whole lot of Congressmen, who have voted for a massive snare of laws which "sounded like a good idea" without doing their sworn duty, which was to open said Constitution to Article I Section 8 (the Powers of Congress), scan through the 431 words found there, and then ask the sponsor, "Which one of these 18 sentences gives you the specific, delegated power to spend FEDERAL tax money to pay the medical bills of barefoot Appalachian widows? Which one? Point to it." The comic book "Gran'pa Jack No. 3: 'Common Sense' " is available at $4 per single copy, $20 for 25, $30 for 50, from Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, 2874 S. Wentworth Ave., Milwaukee, Wisc. 53207. The first Gran'pa Jack comic, " 'Gun Control' Kills Kids," is also still available, at $3 single copy, $14 for 25, $20 for 50 -- Wisconsin residents add 5.6 percent sales tax. Or telephone the JPFO at 414-769-0760. Meantime, go buy a copy of the Declaration of Independence, and the Bill of Rights, and read them to a child. It's our next-to-last last hope. Vin Suprynowicz is the assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Readers may contact him via e-mail at vin(a)lvrj.com. The web site for the Suprynowicz column is at http://www.nguworld.com/vindex/. The column is syndicated in the United States and Canada via Mountain Media Syndications, P.O. Box 4422, Las Vegas Nev. 89127. *** Vin Suprynowicz, vin(a)lvrj.com "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of se--------------------------------------------------- This message is from the VTLP-list (Vermont Libertarian) mailing list. 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Re: Freedom Forum report on the State of the First Amendment
by Bruce Balden 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>The first amendment is about what government can't do to you, not what your >neighbor can or can't do. > > And whether the constitution so narrowly construed limits the action of local councils. It would be extremely convenient if each fo the 50 states adopted by custom each of the federal amendements mutatis mutandis. However, freedom of expression in the US and elsewhere is mostly a limited, but useful fiction. While many have doubts about where strict freedom of speach should exist, evidence is that is exists so long as the EFFECT of abberrent speech isn't too disruptive to the established economic order. So, for instance, using the first amendment to tolerate pornographic works and such is against the putative moral code of most Americans ca. 1950, but tolerating it didn't really threaten any of the power elite. Similarly, when the Civil Rights Act gave aggressive enforcement powers for rights already guaranteed by the consitution, this meant that the power elite was finally moved to act by massive pressure. Although social conditioning may have taught southern white businessmen to look down on negros, they knew that the negro economic power even at the time was very significant. America (and Canada, where this is been written from) are physically large enough to have physically separated and opposed elite from different regions who duke it out in Congress/Parliament. So if you want the right to use strong encryption, or don't want CDA II to ruin your life, appealing to the Constitution is not what I recommend. If people dislike porn enough, they'll **amend the constitution** if that's what it takes. > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------ > David Honig Orbit Technology > honig(a)otc.net Intaanetto Jigyoubu > > M-16 : Don Quixote :: PGP : Louis Freeh > Let freedom ring (or screech at 28.8) > > > > > > > > > > > >

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getting beyond cyberspace
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

More proof that old Hegelians never die, they just synthesize themselves into nonsense. Or, if you give a Hegelian enough time with no data, he'll synthesize himself a rope and hang himself with. Or something. Then there's the old logic joke: "There are two kinds of people, those who use dichotomies and those who don't." :-). Cheers, Bob Hettinga --- begin forwarded text Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:59:45 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: weber.ucsd.edu: procmail set sender to rre-request(a)weber.ucsd.edu using -f X-Authentication-Warning: weber.ucsd.edu: Processed from queue /usr/spool/mqueue/rqueue Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 20:50:51 -0800 (PST) From: Phil Agre <pagre(a)weber.ucsd.edu> To: rre(a)weber.ucsd.edu Subject: getting beyond cyberspace Resent-From: rre(a)weber.ucsd.edu Reply-To: rre-maintainers(a)weber.ucsd.edu X-URL: http://communication.ucsd.edu/pagre/rre.html X-Mailing-List: <rre(a)weber.ucsd.edu> archive/latest/1780 X-Loop: rre(a)weber.ucsd.edu Precedence: list Resent-Sender: rre-request(a)weber.ucsd.edu [When important new technologies come along, they create an imaginative vacuum, and that vacuum is often filled with millenarian ideologies such as the one about cyberspace. Once the millennialists start promising world peace, however, we can be sure that their day has passed, and that it is time for a new ideology that is grounded in concrete attempts to integrate the emerging technology with the real institutional world. The enclosed column about the reality check that can be glimpsed beyond the ideology of cyberspace appeared in the November/December 1997 issue of Technology Review. The TR people picked the title. The column was invited as an "audition" for a regular columnist's position in the radically overhauled version of Technology Review that is due in the spring. I didn't pass the audition. Which is how it goes, of course, although I and many others are waiting with some concern to see whether the new magazine retains the integrity of the classic version.] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This message was forwarded through the Red Rock Eater News Service (RRE). Send any replies to the original author, listed in the From: field below. You are welcome to send the message along to others but please do not use the "redirect" command. For information on RRE, including instructions for (un)subscribing, send an empty message to rre-help(a)weber.ucsd.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The Next Internet Hero Phil Agre http://communication.ucsd.edu/pagre/ Copyright 1997 by MIT's Technology Review. You may forward this article to anyone for any noncommercial purpose, provided that you forward it in its entirety, including this copyright notice. Every new technology is accompanied by a grand narrative. The Internet's grand narratives have focused on heroes: people who are leading the transition to a more information-intensive society. The Internet has produced two generations of hero figures. Now it's time for a third. The first hero was the good hacker. The Internet originated in a special setting -- the community funded by the Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA). These earliest hackers were establishment revolutionaries. Their guiding narrative was that information technology and human beings are symbiotic elements of a larger system. They owned the biggest computers and they defined the technologies that became the Internet. The next hero was the rebel hacker. The second generation viewed hacking as something that happens outside of established institutions. Electronic mail, for example, symbolized and sometimes aided resistance to hierarchy. Rebel hackers include the "cypherpunks", who resist authority by propagating robust encryption software. But rebel hackers can be found in practically any organization; they were the folks who spent their evenings and weekends creating the first million or so Web pages during the early-to-mid 1990s. More social movement than business practice, these Web projects were rarely integrated into organizational procedures or strategies. The rebel hacker is guided by the notion of cyberspace, a digital ether that transcends the obsolete constraints of the physical world. This is a religious idea, and it inherits a long millenarian tradition. It promises to level hierarchies, erase borders, confound the powers of the earth, and institute a perpetual utopia of peace and plenty for all. A belief in cyberspace is the twentieth century's last revolutionary ideology. The grand narrative of cyberspace, however, no longer tells us what we need to know. The rebel hackers derived their revolutionary edge from the continuing rapid growth in microprocessor power, telecommunications bandwidth, and data storage capacity. Dramatic improvements in information technology, they said, would surely turn society inside out. But this argument is misleading. We can indeed be confident that the basic building blocks of computers and networks will continue to improve. But we cannot predict what will be built from them -- the architecture of the many-layered information infrastructure that is rapidly emerging around the world. The questions are endless: Will online commerce systems support anonymous payment, or will they keep complete records of our transactions? Will our communications systems let users screen out unwanted messages, or will we drown in mass mailings? Will educational systems support new kinds of learning, or merely introduce new forms of rote drill? Will the Internet continue to embody the scientific community's values of open information, or will it converge with the business models of broadcast media? The answers to these questions are not dictated by the basic workings of the machinery. They are matters not for prediction but for choice. The Internet is becoming integrated with institutions, influencing them and being influenced in turn. Society needs institutions, after all, and information technology provides us with a tremendous opportunity to redesign our institutions in ways that express the values of a democratic society. This is not a job for the rebel hacker, who is sworn simply to resist the bad institutions of yore. That's why we need a new kind of Internet hero: the public hacker. Whereas the good hacker and the rebel hacker changed the world by changing technology, the public hacker builds bridges between the esoteric world of technical work and the bigger, messier world in which values are argued and chosen. The public hacker is bilingual, translating between technical issues and legal issues, between the dynamics of systems and the dynamics of communities, between technological visions and social visions. The public hacker still invents technologies when they're necessary, propagates them when they're useful, and defends them when they deserve it. But this new hero's imagination is not entirely driven by the machinery. Some examples: Mitchell Kapor, co-founder of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, helped catalyze a remarkably broad-based public discussion of the social values at stake as we create the information infrastructure. Peter Neumann edits an Internet forum, the Risks Digest, that has sensitized innumerable computer people to the things that go wrong with computer systems in real institutional settings. And Pamela Samuelson brings technical and legal analysis together in the public sphere, helping policymakers tackle the intellectual property issues that arise in digital media. If these people don't seem like traditional heroes, perhaps we need a new conception of heroism. Revolutionary heroes changed the world in a unilateral way. Now we need heroes who can help us imagine our options. end --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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Hate speech in America
by aryan＠nym.alias.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am a German patriot who wants to publish my ideas without of fear of the German goverment. But my concern is that the U. S. ISP I use can hand over my subscriber infoation and logs to the German goverment. Does anyone know a U. S. ISP who does not censor hate speech and who has a _known_ strong privacy policy? By the way, is hate speech protected in United States?

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