December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Where is the c-p traffic?
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Am I the only one to notice that traffic has dropped from about 100 messages/day to only a few? Does anyone know what is broken? Does anyone care? Is the whole c-p list a giant MITM being run against a very few of us who are the only human participants? Oh dear! I just realized that c-p _could_ be subject to an interesting MITM attack: By subtlely modifiying the text of c-p messages arriving at certain key recipients, the bad guys could then correlate the quoted text in resulting anonymous replies to the list with individuals, and could probably also shave a layer or two off the remailer chains through which those messages were sent. The determination of individual's usage patterns of remailers would also benefit from this, and the info would go into a growing database which could then be used at some point down the road to nail key people and remove them as irritants and agitators. Isn't it odd that many key contributors to the list coincidentally live near nondescript neighborhood houses that bristle with antennae and are regularly visited by black helicopters and large unmarked vans? No, I didn't think so either. That's probably an unrelated operation. TrafficMongerII

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Where is the c-p traffic? (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 00:30:30 GMT > From: bureau42 Anonymous Remailer <nobody(a)bureau42.ml.org> > Subject: Where is the c-p traffic? > > Am I the only one to notice that traffic has dropped from about 100 > messages/day to only a few? You are getting *lots* of bounces if you were getting anything like 100 messages per day. > Does anyone know what is broken? At this point either your arithmetic or your memory. Either way, it sounds like a personal problem. > Does anyone care? Is the whole c-p list a giant MITM being run > against a very few of us who are the only human participants? Damn, found out. > Isn't it odd that many key contributors to the list coincidentally > live near nondescript neighborhood houses that bristle with > antennae and are regularly visited by black helicopters and large > unmarked vans? No, I didn't think so either. That's probably an > unrelated operation. Just exactly what kind of drugs are you taking? There is a house rule you *must* bring enough for everyone. No helicopters, vans, jack-booted thugs, or anything else around here dude. Don't know about an opinion, a paranoia induced hallucination for sure. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | | | We built your fort. We will not have it used against us. | | | | John Wayne - Allegheny Uprising | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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You can take it with you
by Mixmaster 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Last year, when a major financial columnist suggested that people should buy stocks and hold them until the day they died, we figured expectations had hit the ceiling. We were wrong. Apparently, in a mania of this magnitude, even the bounds of mortality can be sur- passed. The Luxemborg-based Prometh Societé is offering "reincarnation accounts" to people who are not willing to let death stand in the way of their financial planning (minimum account size is $30,000). When the claimant returns in the next life and provides a few key facts, he can claim the account, which will presumably have grown to quite a size at the generally-expected 30% per annum compounded." The Elliott Wave Theorist -- December 5, 1997

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by hellen＠east.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Columbian squib on Bell sentencing
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From The Columbian's web site at <http://www.columbian.com/newsroom/topstories.html>: 'Assassination Politics' author gets 11 months TACOMA, Wash. - James Dalton Bell, the Vancouver man who wrote an Internet essay entitled "Assassination Politics," was sentenced this morning to 11 months in prison and two to three years of tightly supervised probation. Bell's attorney objected to the probation conditions, which bar Bell from possessing a firearm or chemicals or entering a federal office without prior approval. He may not advocate violence or overthrow of the government. Bell, 39, has been in custody since May. In July, he pleaded guilty to obstructing Internal Revenue Service agents and using false Social Security numbers. Bell also admitted collecting the names and home addresses of IRS employees; proposing the "Assassination Politics" idea that targeted federal employees, and planting a stink bomb in the IRS's Vancouver office in March. -- Marcia Wolf, Columbian staff writer -- Greg Broiles | US crypto export control policy in a nutshell: gbroiles(a)netbox.com | Export jobs, not crypto. http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | http://www.parrhesia.com

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Re: Fw: Jim Bell Sentenced (fwd)
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

To add to Greg Broiles' excellent recap of the case. What might be amplified is the way Jim's case was gnoshed in the media and here, with more attention to AP than to the basic facts, as exemplified in the news report on sentencing, as Phill did, as did the IRS spam of Jim's arrest. Fair enough, for that was clearly the purpose of AP, as with all publishing and speaking in a manner to get attention, whether by IRS-fed scare stories churned out by its PR department, by we advocates of earnest causes, and by the eager-to-oblige news, law and pol biz -- FC not excepted. Jim's case was happily churned by all parties, us foremost among them, and Jim (with aid and abet by others) is to be congratulated for success with AP: Agent Provocative, Apt Promo, Avid Preening for and against. May he quickly capitalize on his notoriety and beat the pack of envious competitors waving less risky, lawful docs which attract zip. Now, is it not true that we've self-censored ourselves into believing Jim is just a fool, rather than a gutsy guy willing to do what most of us will not, instead preferring covert self-censorship over the all-too-easily opposed group-think kind. If so, the IRS (with aid and abet by news, law and pol) has proven a gov-authorized version of AP and warning spam quite nicely intimidates us into censoring ourselves into well-behaved submission while believing its a shrewd move to protect careers from wiser fools like Jim Bell. Free Jim Bell, and pay lost salary and punitive damages!

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Crypto-gathering today in DC (12/13) at 3 pm
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We're having a crypto-gathering in Washington, DC today to coincide with the end of IETF. It probably would be a DC cypherpunks meeting if we had enough notice -- but since we don't it'll be a less formal gathering instead. Guests -- John Gilmore and Hugh Daniel When -- 3 pm, Saturday, December 13 Where -- Adams Morgan, Washington, DC What -- Probably IPsec, Bernstein lawsuit, crypto legislation If you're interested, email for details. -Declan

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17 Dec '03

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Smartcard update
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cypherpunks Tonga announces yet another version of SIO/STEST, the universal smartcard software. Quick summary of changes: - Philips, Gemplus, and Schlumberger reader support added - Chipknip (IEP) specific commands added - new internal commands - infrastructure for implementing card specific commands has been added (which the chipknip commands are built on top of) At this point, we need others to start writing tables to support additional cards. If you have an ISO7816 compatible smartcard with programmer reference manual and minimal C knowledge, you can contribute to the project. Full source is at https://www.cypherpunks.to/scard/stest_download.php -- Lucky Green <shamrock(a)cypherpunks.to> PGP v5 encrypted email preferred. "Tonga? Where the hell is Tonga? They have Cypherpunks there?"

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Re: hashcash spam prevention & firewalls (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 20:24:59 -0800 > From: Bill Frantz <frantz(a)netcom.com> > Subject: Re: hashcash spam prevention & firewalls > I think there needs to be a story for mailing lists. It might be > acceptable for the first pass to allow spamming of mailing lists but not of > individuals email addresses. (Apologies in advance to list moderators.) We have a moderator? This is news to me and I suspect the other CDR operators. Who is this person please, I would very much like to discuss a couple of issues with them... ____________________________________________________________________ | | | | | We built your fort. We will not have it used against us. | | | | John Wayne - Allegheny Uprising | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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