December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: I have something to say.
by Mixmaster 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

nobody(a)nsm.htp.org wrote: > On Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:28:02 GMT gburnore+spam(a)netcom.com (Gary L. > Burnore) wrote: > > >On 15 Nov 1997 04:21:40 -0800, rfg(a)monkeys.com (Ronald F. Guilmette) wrote: > > > >: In article <64ajuv$r9(a)newspeer2.dearborn.agis.net>, > >: Harold <harold(a)agis.net> wrote: > >: >I am taking back the statement I made. Not everyone here is pathetic. > >: > >: Gee! That's mighty white of you. > > > >Again with the bigoted, racist remarks, eh? > > > Poor sorry asshole netscum Gary L. Burnore, <gburnore@databasix> <gburnore(a)netcom.com>. > Just can't get over making substantially less money than Ron. > Why the hell don't you layoff Guilmette and get a fucking life for yourself. > Haven't you done enough damage to him and anonymous remailers you fucking piece of shit. > > <cue netscum gburnore lame response> Yeah, but poor Ron doesn't have a criminal arrest record like Gary does, despite Gary Burnore's unproven accusations, "big lie" campaign, crank calls to the FBI, etc. Gary's charges get more and more fanciful. Did you read the one where he accused Ron of abusing some "teenage girl" at DataBasix. Not a shred of evidence for his lies, of course. Fortunately for him, Netcom harbors net abusers and Gary had to suddenly leave California for North Carolina after his arrest in San Francisco. And there's his faithful sidekick, Belinda Bryan <eridani(a)ix.netcom.com>, who's now posting with this forged line in her headers: > Organization: Boycott E-Scrub Technologies. The owner is an admitted spambaiter. This is the same looney maroon netcop who whined when somebody started posting a URL from the AIDS Action League advocating a boycott of Gary Burnore's ex-employer, Wells Fargo Bank in San Francisco. And then Gary has the nerve to call someone "racist" and "bigoted"? These two net abusers richly deserve their NetScum pages: http://www.spambusters.dyn.ml.org/www.netscum.net/burnorg0.html http://www.spambusters.dyn.ml.org/www.netscum.net/bryanb0.html --

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Re: A Challenge to the Violent and Depraved
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

To buttress suggestions for simulating the OKC bombing, here's an SAIC press release of August 1997 on a training program for disaster handling: SAIC AND TEEX TO PROVIDE ANTI-TERRORISM TRAINING TO FIRST RESPONDERS (MCLEAN, VA) Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) has signed an agreement with the Texas Engineering Extension Service (TEEX) to prepare civilian emergency responders for possible terrorist events. Under the agreement, SAIC and its teaming partners will provide training to firefighters and other first response personnel in the latest technologies for addressing chemical and biological terrorism. As the leader of the team, TEEX will hold training classes at Texas A&M University's Emergency Response Training Field at College Station, Texas, where firefighters and rescue workers will train in virtual reality simulators on the effects of chemical and biological weapons. TEEX, which is a member of the Texas A&M University System, annually provides training to 129,000 individuals and last year provided fire, rescue and hazardous materials training nationally and internationally to more than 28,000 responders. "The United States has been fortunate in that it has not had a successful terrorist attack perpetrated against it using biological or chemical agents," said G. Kemble Bennett, TEEX's CEO who oversees the 120-acre Brayton Fire Training Field. "However, experts agree that it is only a matter of time." "As a leader in chemical and biological warfare agent accident, response and assistance training for military and civilian emergency response agencies, SAIC can offer expert guidance to responders," said William L. Chadsey, senior vice president at SAIC. "Our company has provided emergency planning and consultative services to personnel and public service organizations worldwide." In September, U.S. Representative Curt Weldon (R-Pa.) is expected to introduce a bill in Congress to designate the training field at Texas A&M and its facilities as The National Training Center for Urban Search and Rescue. The new center is expected to feature building collapse simulators and a facility dubbed "Disaster City" to prepare responders to handle earthquakes and bombings in addition to chemical and biological agents. If approved, Rep. Weldon¹s bill also is likely to facilitate the release of information from Bechtel Nevada at the Nevada Test Site about the handling of nuclear materials. Speaking at the signing ceremony, Fire Chief Gary Marrs of Oklahoma City, Okla., said, "The first responders in our communities, and specifically our firefighters, are tasked to respond and make a difference when disasters occur. Until the training and equipment, utilizing the latest in technology, get down to the street level, we put our responders at an extreme disadvantage and endanger their lives. I am encouraged to see these types of cooperative efforts make this training and technology available to the men and women of the fire service who protect our cities daily." Marrs, who managed the fire and rescue mission at the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City, chairs the Urban Search and Rescue Committee for the International Association of Fire Chiefs located in Fairfax, Va. http://www.saic.com/publications/news/aug97/news08-06-97.html

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Pepper Sprays/ Personal Security Products
by ascan8506＠msn.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: The Subliminal Algebra-Seinfield Conspiracy
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dimitri confessed: >Above Tom's restaurant, on 112th and Broadway. I worked for 7 years upstairs >from that restaurant in a very secret organization. I'm socked they even >show that building on TV. :-) You bet, that secret org is well-known among CU pick-up artists as a swell place to pick up socks ... well, more than that and sudden death's your next shock.

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House panel puts Clinton's private fax online
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.rollcall.com/newsscoops/leadscoop.html House Panel Puts Clinton's Private Fax on the Internet By Ed Henry and Jennifer Bradley President Clinton's private fax number was placed on the Internet by the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee for a brief time Tuesday in a breach that has infuriated White House officials. The number for the fax machine that sits right outside the Oval Office was provided to Government Reform and Oversight investigators by former Clinton political consultant Dick Morris, during an August deposition, on the condition that it be kept private. But the fax number, which Clinton uses for secure communications with old friends and people he meets during trips around the nation, was left in the deposition made public Tuesday on the Internet. "I can say on the President's behalf that he's disappointed that the committee didn't respect the confidentiality of his number," White House spokesman Mike McCurry said in an interview. "This is very troubling to the White House." After being contacted by Roll Call with the President's private number on Tuesday evening, McCurry did some checking and called back within a few minutes to declare, "Unfortunately it's a match." McCurry complained that the White House will now have to change the number and try to track down all of the disparate people who use the number. "This basically has the potential to ruin a device the President has used as a real good sounding board," he said. McCurry suggested this was an example of Government Reform and Oversight Chairman Dan Burton's (R-Ind) recklessness. [...]

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Junior Jim Bells in Training
by Eric Cordian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Two more future cypherpunks added to the list of people who will someday "McVeigh" Washington, DC. I'm surprised sending a flame to one of our elected leadership's public email addresses is not already a death penalty offense. ----- CORDOVA, Tenn. (AP) -- Two 13-year-old boys are charged with sending a threatening e-mail message over the Internet to Hillary Rodham Clinton. Contents of the electronic mail message to the president's wife haven't been released, but U.S. Secret Service agents are expected to outline them during a hearing Monday in Juvenile Court. The youngsters, whose names have not been released, are charged with threatening and harassing Mrs. Clinton. They could face a fine, counseling, community service or detention. Officials say it's unlikely that the president's wife read the message, which was sent last month. Anyone with a computer, modem and an Internet service provider can access the White House Web Page and Mrs. Clinton's E-mail address. Her page includes photos, a biography, speeches and instructions on sending an electronic message. ``The Internet is a wonderful tool that not only enables you to better access information about the White House, but also gives us an opportunity to hear your ideas and better serve you,'' Mrs. Clinton says in the welcoming text of her Web page. Senders must include a name, address and other information about why they're writing. All senders receive an electronic message acknowledging receipt of the e-mail. It was not clear whether the boys included their own names and addresses, but authorities say tracing e-mail is relatively easy. ``We aggressively investigate any threats or incidents of unusual interest toward any of our protectees,'' said Steven Rutledge, special agent in charge of the Secret Service in this area. Cordova is about 15 miles east of Memphis. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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Re: The Subliminal Algebra-Seinfield Conspiracy
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:45 AM 11/22/97 EST, you wrote: > >TruthMonger <tm(a)dev.null> writes: > >> Is it a mere coincidence that algebra.com went down and proceeded to >> send out all received messages in reverse order on the _same_day_ >> that the Seinfield TV show featured a reverse-order-plot show? > >I don't watch much TV, especially comedies. However I accidentally saw a >bit of "Seinfield" the other day and was surprise to note that they picture >Tom's restaurant, on 112th and Broadway. I worked for 7 years upstairs >from that restaurant in a very secret organization. I'm socked they even >show that building on TV. :-) > >--- > >Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM >Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps > > Is Dimitri a cossack? a cossock?, a cocksock?, or just a cocksucker? Typos the bane of understanding on the net.

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Re: Tampa Pirate Radio Stations Silenced
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

TruthMonger wrote: > Authorities say Kobres used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say Kobres used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say CypherPunks used their equipment to broadcast > anti-government messages. > Authorities say CypherPunks used their equipment to broadcast > anti-government messages. > Authorities say Chudov used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say Choates used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say Cottrel used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say Young used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say blanc used her equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say amp used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say Schear used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say Burnes used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say Ito used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say Vulis used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say Wienke used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > Authorities say Galt used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. > ... > Authorities say Kobres used his equipment to broadcast anti-government > messages. Computer for sale. Cheap!

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10.5
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

nobody since Nixon was been impeached for violating his oath of office by subverting the Constitution. This suggests either that everyone honors the oath or that the oath is meaningless. Suppose, in a society with a normal level of criminal behavior, there were no prosecutions for burglary. Would you infer that there were no burglaries in that society? Or would you infer, rather, that the burglary laws just weren't being enforced? When a bill is proposed in Congress, our representatives almost never ask themselves: "Where in the Constitution do we get the power to enact this measure?" Instead they presume that they have virtually any power they choose to exercise. They simply feel no tension between their will and the Constitution that is supposed to restrain them. This doesn't look much like an ethos of limited government.

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10th
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Professor George P. Fletcher of the Columbia Law School notes "Not only is [McVeigh's philosophy] in line with the conceptions held by many of the nation's founders," Mr. Fletcher writes in The New Republic, "but it lives on today in the works of an influential minority of legal scholars and advocates." Mr. Fletcher thinks the problem is that we have abandoned "the original Constitution" and adopted "a new Constitution" without facing the historical discontinuity this involves. In his words, "we do not teach this historical rupture -- not in our grade schools, not in our law schools. We are all good lawyers and therefore, like Lincoln, we pretend that the second Constitution is simply the natural continuation of the founding document." The first Constitution limited the federal government to external relations between the states, leaving alone such internal matters as slavery. The second Constitution, instituted by the Civil War, gave the federal government new powers to intervene within the states through the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments The 10th Amendment, reserving to the states and the people all powers not "delegated" to the federal government, was not repealed or even modified. So Congress' exercise of any power not granted is still a usurpation, even under the "new" Constitution.

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