December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

PGP 5.5 Conventional Encryption: Which Algorithm?
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone know what algorithm PGP 5.5 uses for conventional encryption? Also is PGP 5.5 capable of generating RSA keys of 4096 bits? Thanks.

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Seeing Both Sides
by Magus Mixmaster Anonymous Remailer Service 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Bob Hettinga wrote: >But then, logic, much less independent thinking, was never >Foucault's strong point. I took this statement at face value, but out of curiousity I decided to find out who this guy Foucault was. The things I read about him lead me to believe otherwise. Some quotes from Michel Foucault: "The judges of normality are present everywhere. We are in the society of the teacher-judge, the doctor-judge, the educator-judge, the 'social worker'-judge." "Prison continues, on those who are entrusted to it, a work begun elsewhere, which the whole of society pursues on each individual through innumerable mechanisms of discipline." How quick we are to condemn those who step out of the "norm", no? As soon as someone says something even slightly controversial, our inner censors rush in to separate ourselves from that person, to chastise him, to condemn him, regardless of the relationship we have developed with him in the past. There is this unfortunate property in man that leads him to disassociate himself from the ideas he holds true if it is convenient, and especially if it will allow him to avoid the ridicule, hatred and disdain of others. In the never ending "pursuit of happiness" we seek to make our lives so comfortable that we will give up that which we hold dearest. "The work of an intellectual is not to mould the political will of others; it is, through the analyses that he does in his own field, to re-examine evidence and assumptions, to shake up habitual ways of working and thinking, to dissipate conventional familiarities, to re-evaluate rules and institutions and...to participate in the formation of a political will (where he has his role as citizen to play)." In other words, to make people think. This is the goal of the intellectual. To subtly influence the mass of humanity by appealing to their minds, their reason, instead of their base instincts and emotions. Tolerance and acceptance are results brought about in us by communion with the mind, that which is greatest in us. Hatred, persecution, violence are what we fall back upon when we cease to live to our fullest potential. We degenerate into the animals we once were. Once again, Bob wrote: >The world's foremost pseudomystical relativist cited to support an >absolutist position. The logic escapes me. But then, logic, much less >independent thinking, was never Foucault's strong point. Perhaps one way of looking at it is that if you can't see the black and the white, you're missing the whole picture. After all, who would think that one would need to use an anonymous remailer and a pseudonym to express oneself in a free and open society such as ours? Nerthus -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNGu85OFWwZe05jcJAQGvYwgAlI0R3rJW67A9fFIs9ai5FY/jEAwV2oQ1 112bd/UmgfJ11DYPWUpG6GKt2XcBUd6UfYPnidY27hT+GGBTTKjAeF88z0XMu6Ep jWUPllwb0Dw5or1o9IBg8ZAOPaAu/SMy9yVgcfaEbAqmfNken+dBhbfoAORjaLd8 BJSYCGs1Bw3Aw1gE7e3aJdjlYs/gKKNkoTQCkgkt6VBBCEQ7dXG1qbq2BTYS3py9 meK2utOM+YLG/+bJSoGRLT5oFiIpnYrkIwAziAtO7WAfydq+vwf8EsTdnX5mwUxg THngvvyaAbZtVm/yObAPgifbfpfDbnfYOL/rrJQzGMXVJCUBNKTQKg== =zZLC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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A Leaner's as good as a Ringer! / WAS: Asleep on Crime
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

* In June, the Court of Appeal in London, England, turned down Thomas Moringiello's challenge to his fraud conviction and 18- month prison sentence. Although Moringiello was able to prove that Judge Richard Hamilton had slept through portions of the testimony at trial the year before, the higher court said Moringiello was not harmed because Hamilton still was able to give a summary of the case for the jury's deliberation. ~~~~~~~ To read these News of the Weird newspaper columns from the past six months, go to http://www.nine.org/notw/notw.html (That site contains no graphics, no photos, no video clips, no audio. Just text. Deal with it.)

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Re: TWA FLIGHT 800 (Subject matter - Terrorism)
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following message is forwarded to you by "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii(a)users.invweb.net> (listed as the From user of this message). The original sender (see the header, below) was <TERRORISM(a)mediccom.org> and has been set as the "Reply-To" field of this message. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Return-Path: <TERRORISM(a)mediccom.org> >Received: from mediccom.org (mediccom.org [206.244.73.73]) > by users.invweb.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA19691 > for <WHGIII(a)INVWEB.NET>; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:30:40 -0500 >Received: by mediccom.org (Wildcat!) > id Thu, 13 Nov 1997 03:32:55 GMT >Received: from portal by portal.pcps.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) > id IAA27658; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:25:20 -0500 >Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971113083334.009d0810(a)pcps.edu> >X-Sender: m.innera(a)pcps.edu >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) >Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:33:34 -0500 >X-Old_TimeStamp: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 08:33:34 -0500 >To: TERRORISM(a)mediccom.org >From: "Malcolm R.Innerarity" <m.innera(a)pcps.edu> >Subject: TWA FLIGHT 800 (Subject matter - Terrorism) >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Sender: <TERRORISM(a)mediccom.org> >Reply-To: <TERRORISM(a)mediccom.org> >Errors-To: <TERRORISM(a)mediccom.org> >Status: Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 23:23:33 -0800 From: ewolfe(a)involved.com (Ed Wolfe) X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win95; I) From: Ian Goddard <igoddard(a)netkonnect.net> CNN said that my TWA 800 research was a "sham" and a "plot." That is a lie. Here is one of my reports. All these referenced items are accurate. Can you find any "sham" or "plot"? If not, what does that tell us about CNN? Spread this far and wide. Please save this now historical report. Other reports may be found here: http://www.copi.com/articles/Goddard <smaller> </smaller> ______________________________________ (free to forward & copy with attribute) -------------------------------------- T W A 8 0 0 M I S S I L E T H E O R Y - S T R O N G E R T H A N E V E R (c) (07/17/97) Ian Williams Goddard One year after the pulverized remains of TWA Flight 800 plunged into the sea, it's clearer than ever that the passengers on board were victims of a missile strike. While most of the 154 missile-witness accounts taken by the FBI remain covered up, a few accounts are available to the public, such as the accounts of 5 pilots who were flying in the area when TWA 800 was suddenly annihilated: FIVE PILOTS - FIVE MISSILE WITNESSES PILOT 1: Colonel William Stratemeier, Jr. AVIATION WEEK & SPACE TECHNOLOGY reported that Air National Guard C-130 pilot Colonel Stratemeier "said he had seen what appeared to be the trail of a shoulder-fired SAM ending in a flash on the 747." [1] However, in the next issue of AVIATION WEEK Stratemeier re- cants, saying: "We did not see smoke trails [from a missile], any ignition source from the tail end of a rocket nor anything..."[2] Col. Stratemeier recanted and therefore was not hit with an FBI gag order, but the next two ANG pilots did not recant their accounts and therefore were hit with FBI gag orders. PILOT 2: Captain Christian Baur AVIATION WEEK & SPACE TECHNOLOGY reports that right after the TWA 800 accident, ANG HH-60 helicopter co-pilot Captain Baur told federal officials: "Almost due south, there was a hard white light, like burning pyrotech- nics, in level flight. I was trying to figure out what it was. It was the wrong color for flares. It struck an object coming from the right [TWA 800] and made it explode." [3] PILOT 3: Major Frederick Meyer At a press conference the day after the TWA 800 accident, ANG HH-60 helicopter pilot Major Meyer said: "I saw something that looked to me like a shooting star. Now you normally don't see a shooting star when the sun is up. It was still bright... Almost immediately thereafter, I saw, in rapid succession, a small explosion then a large explosion." [4] Meyer said that the initial explosion "looked identical to the detonation of an antiaircraft shell."[3] PILOT 4: Vasilis Bakounis Private Pilot and Olympic Airlines engineer Vasilis Bakounis told the Greek publication ELEFTHEROTYPIA [5] that as he was heading toward Gabreski Airport on July 17, 1996, "Suddenly I saw in the fog to my left toward the ocean, a small flame rising quickly to- ward the sky. Before I realized it, I saw this flame become huge. My first thought was that it was a flare that had been launched from some boat... This flame then started to quickly lose altitude and a few seconds later there was... a second explosion." PILOT 5: Sven Faret Flying at 8,500 feet moments before the cataclysmic explosion of TWA 800, private pilot Sven Faret reported that a "short pin-flash of light appeared on the ground, perhaps water." [6] When asked if the flash of light rose upwards vertically from the earth, Sven confirmed that it did, stating that it was "like a rocket launch at a fireworks display" with a point-of-origin "near the shoreline or in the water." [7] All 5 pilots witnessed a rapidly moving luminous and fiery object that was: 1. like a surface-to-air missile 2. like burning pyrotechnics 3. like a meteor yet not like a meteor 4. like a small flame rising quickly 5. like a rocket at a fireworks display All 5 accounts indicate that this rapidly moving fiery object hit TWA 800 initiating the explosions that killed all on board. At least 2 of the pilots saw the object early enough in its trajectory to have seen it rise upwards from the Earth. The accounts of the pilots in the air are corroborated by over 100 witnesses on the ground who also saw a fiery object shoot upwards and intercept TWA 800. Some of them said that the fiery object was: * like a flare * like a thin white line * like Grucci fireworks * like a skyrocket Most witnesses, such as Naneen Levine on CNN [8], report that the fiery object followed a curving trajectory as it shot upwards toward TWA 800. There is simply no phenomena other than the firing of a missile that can explain all the details reported by the witnesses who saw that luminous object streak toward TWA 800. When we also consider that TWA 800 wreck- age shows the signs of missile damage,[9] the real question is not was it a missile that hit TWA 800, but whose missile was it. TERRORISTS OR THE U.S. NAVY? While the number of "terrorist-missile theories" is greater than zero, the number of terrorists known to be in the area during the crash is zero. Military experts have shown that the probability that terrorists could even deploy the military hardware necessary to destroy TWA 800 with a missile is near zero. In sum, the terrorist-missile theory offers us a whole lot of nothing. In contrast to the terrorist-missile theory, the U.S. Navy (a) could deploy the military hardware necessary to take out TWA 800, (b) did deploy assets to the area that were both below and above TWA 800 when it was hit, and (c) did activate warning zones near TWA 800 for military exercises and live-firings. TWA 800 even changed course to avoid an active naval-warning zone moments before it was hit. Unlike the terrorist theory, the Navy-missile theory is overflowing with evidence. THE NAVY SHUFFLE It is common for the guilty to try to deny the facts that place them at the scene of the crime or accident. The U.S. military tried to deny the fact that it was at the scene of the TWA 800 accident. On July 23, 1996, Department of Defense spokesman Kenneth Bacon told the press: I'm not aware [that] there were any military exercises in the area. I've been told by the Joint [Chiefs of] Staff that there were not. [10] Yet after eight months of such denials, the Navy finally admitted that naval exercises were taking place off Long Island at the time of the TWA 800 accident. [11] The Navy also admitted that they had three submarines off Long Island in the ocean below TWA 800. [11] We know that there were at least 8 military assets in the area of the TWA 800 accident: 1. NAVY: The ALBUQUERQUE, attack sub 2. NAVY: The TREPANG, attack sub 3. NAVY: The WYOMING, ICBM sub 4. NAVY: P-3 Orion aircraft 5. NAVY: The NORMANDY, missile cruiser 6. USCG: The ADAK, CG patrol boat 7. NYANG: HC-130 aircraft 8. NYANG: HH-60 helicopter Every asset except the Adak has either (a) been denied to exist or (b) had its reported location at the time of the TWA 800 accident changed by the military. For example, while shuffling around crash-time locations for months, the military placed 4 of its assets in 11 locations: The Navy-missile-cruiser Normandy was: 1. 180 miles away [12] 2. 185 miles away [13] 3. over 200 miles away [11] The Navy P-3 Orion aircraft was: 1. 15 miles to the south [14] 2. about 1 mile southwest [15] 3. 3,700 feet below TWA 800 [16] 4. 7,000 feet above TWA 800 [15] The ANG C-130 aircraft was: 1. 10 miles offshore [17] 2. flying along the coast [18] The ANG HH-60 helicopter was: 1. 10 miles offshore at 3,000 feet doing search and rescue practice.[1] 2. 3 miles inland at 100 feet doing practice landings. [19] Are we to believe that with as many as nine military radar systems blanketing the area [20] it would take months for the military to figure out where it was? The pattern of location shifting has been to move military assets further away from the accident than initially reported or further than was eventually discovered, as in the case of the P-3, which tapes proved was more than 10x closer to TWA 800 than once claimed. If the denial of evidenced proximity to the crime scene is evidence of culpability, then, since multiple instances of military proximity to TWA 800 have been denied by the military, the evidence that the mili- tary is culpable in the downing of TWA 800 is significant. The fact that not only assets but military exercises were denied, makes this evidence compelling. CONNECTING THE DOTS TWA 800 researcher Tom Shoemaker recently discovered documents showing that both the New York Air National Guard and the Navy were engaged in a large-scale exercise called "Global Yankee '96" taking place off shore between July 16 and 26, 1996.[20] Shoemaker's findings confirm the claim of TWA 800 researcher James Sanders that the Navy and the ANG were working together at the time of the accident. [21] While the fact that ANG pilots reported what they saw would seem to contradict the possibility of their culpability, it is clear that the ANG is not being forth- right about the locations of ANG assets at crash time.[18,URL] It should also be noted that ANG co-pilot Baur never said what he saw when he had the chance to at a press conference after the crash; that Major Meyer suggested first and foremost that TWA 800 was hit by a meteorite; and that Stratemeier suggested it was hit by a terrorist-style missile, then suddenly claimed he saw nothing. If the Navy and/ or the ANG are guilty, then the ANG pilot responses would be predictable misleads. One year after the fiery demise of TWA 800, the Navy-missile theory not only remains superior to all other TWA 800 theories, but is stronger than ever. _____________________________________________________________ REFERENCES___________________________________________________ [1] AVIATION WEEK & SPACE TECHNOLOGY: Terrorist Fears Deepen With 747's Destruction. E.Phillips, P.Mann (7/22/96) p.20. [2] AVIATION WEEK & SPACE TECHNOLOGY: ANG Eyewitnesses Reject Missile Theory. David Fulghum, July 29, 1996, page 32. [3] AVIATION WEEK & SPACE TECHNOLOGY: ANG Pilot: Jet Hit by Object. By David Fulghum, March 10, 1997. [4] New York Air National Guard, 106th Rescue Wing press conference, July 18, 1996. [5] ELEFTHEROTYPIA. Greece, August 23, 1996. Article by Aris Hatzigeorgiou. http://www.enet.gr [6] Report of TWA 800 witness Sven Faret: http://www.webexpert.net/rosedale/twacasefile/aviator.html [7] http://www.erols.com/igoddard/sven.htm [8] CNN: TWA 800 witness Naneen Levine illustrates missile trajectory: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/levine.htm [9] Debris: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/crash.htm [10] Department of Defense press conference, July 23, 1996: http://www.dtic.mil/defenselink/news/Jul96/t072396_t0723asd.html [11] NEWSDAY: TWA Probe: Submarines Off LI. By R.E. Kessler, 03/22/97. http://www.newsday.com/jet/cras0322.htm [12] ASSOCIATED PRESS: Missile Attack a Favorite of Conspiracy Theorists. 09/03/96. [13] ASSOCIATED PRESS: Document Says Navy Hit TWA Plane. By Jocelyn Noveck, 11/08/96. [14] NEWSDAY: The Story So Far. By Craig Gordon, Lima Pleven, 08/20/96. http://www.newsday.com/jet/jemyst20.htm [15] ASSOCIATED PRESS: FBI Says Mystery Blip on Radar Tape is Unarmed Navy Reconnaissance Plane. 03/21/97. [16] THE NEW AMERICAN: What Really Happened to TWA 800? By W. Jasper, 10/14/96. http://www.jbs.org/vo12no21.htm#TWA800 [17] NYANG says that the C-130 was in the area JAWS: http://www.infoshop.com/106rescue/html/twa800-pres/sld002.html NYANG rep. James Finkle says JAWS is 10 miles offshore: http://www.webexpert.net/rosedale/twacasefile/jolly14.html [18] NYANG rep. James Finkle says the C-130 was not in JAWS: http://www.webexpert.net/rosedale/twacasefile/jolly14.html [19] In [1] the HH-60 is reported to have been offshore with the C-130, which the ANG says was in JAWS ten miles offshore, but then suddenly the HH-60 was moved over Gabreski Airport: http://www.webexpert.net/rosedale/twacasefile/jolly14.html I called AVIATION WEEK and was told that it was an NYANG representative who told them that the HH-60 was offshore. I was told that the NYANG rep. read the off shore 3,000 ft altitude location straight from Major Meyer's report. [20] http://www.webexpert.net/rosedale/twacasefile/newsfour.html Visit these pages and copy their contents: http://www.ang.af.mil/angrc-xo/xoom/aargy96.htm http://www.ang.af.mil/angrc-xo/glbynk/partcpnt.htm http://www.rl.af.mil/Lab/C3/current-events/gy_rap1.jpg [21] The Downing of TWA Flight 800. By James Sanders, 1997. <smaller> </smaller>A pack of "unreferenced rumors"? HA! The media's presentation of Ian Goddard's TWA 800 inquiry is a Big Lie in full display. _____________________________________________ Ian Goddard <<igoddard(a)netkonnect.net> - -- Ultimately, a nation of people are governed as they wish to be governed. - Jon Dougherty ====================================================================== To post a new message to the list, send E-mail terrorism(a)mediccom.org. 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Fwd: Set Phasers to Stun.
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:56:52 -0500 From: glen(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org To: 0xdeadbeef(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org Cc: bostic(a)bsdi.com Subject: Set Phasers to Stun. Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:56:48 -0500 Sender: glen(a)shell.ncm.com Resent-From: 0xdeadbeef(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org X-Mailing-List: <0xdeadbeef(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org> archive/latest/2463 X-Loop: 0xdeadbeef(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: 0xdeadbeef-request(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org Forwarded-by: Mark Stewart <mark(a)ps.cus.umist.ac.uk> Forwarded-by: DarkTrick <dan(a)coromir.demon.co.uk> 1 NS 01 Nov 97 SET PHASERS TO SHOCK . . . (358) By PAUL GUINNESSY Real life is catching up with Star Trek. Hans Eric Herr from San Diego,California, has been granted a patent for a 'phaser' that uses laser light to stun or kill. Crude stun weapons called tasers are already available in the US. The weapons fire two small darts attached to a wire. A pulsing electrical current passes down the wire and stuns the victim by 'tetanisation'. The pulses make the muscles of the victim contract in unison, rendering them helpless. The disadvantages of tasers are that they can only be fired once before they have to be reloaded. They are also classified as firearms because they fire projectiles. One attempt to overcome the limitations of tasers uses a stream of liquid that hits a victim with a 10 000-volt charge. This causes painful muscle spasms in the victim. But the liquid can split into droplets, breaking the electrical connection, and is hard to aim. Herr's invention uses lasers to generate intense beams of ultraviolet light. These create a path of ionised air down which precisely modulated electrical current is sent. The currents can be manipulated to cause painful contractions, stun a victim painlessly, or induce a heart attack. It has a far longer range than the taser-over 100 metres-and the beam can penetrate clothing. The phaser can also fire many shots before it needs reloading. Using ultraviolet light avoids legal restrictions on weapons that blind with laser light, since it would take several minutes to damage the retina with the wavelength of light used by the device. A hand-held version of the phaser is not yet available because the argon-fluoride discharge-pumped excimer laser it uses is as big as a kitchen table. Herr is hoping that others will find ways to make his device smaller and more powerful, as well as improve its range. He says that any technically competent person would be able to build a phaser. Steve Aftergood, a senior research analyst at the Federation of American Scientists in Washington, says: 'At first glance it seems incredible, and rather disturbing.' New Scientist Volume 156. Issue 2106. --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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Progressive Government Programs That WORK!!!
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Microsoft Addresses Justice Department Accusations
by semprini＠theschool.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Microsoft Addresses Justice Department Accusations REDMOND, Wash. -- Oct. 21, 1997 -- In direct response to accusations made by the Department of Justice, Microsoft Corporation announced today it will be acquiring the Federal Government of the United States of America for an undisclosed sum. "It's actually a logical extension of our growth," said Microsoft chairman and CEO Bill Gates. "It's a positive arrangement for everyone." Microsoft representatives held a briefing at the Oval Office with US President Bill Clinton, and assured members of the press that changes to US Government policy will be "minimal." The United States will be managed as a wholly owned subsidiary of Microsoft Corp. An initial public offering is planned for July 4 of next year, and the Federal Government is expected to be profitable by 1999, according to Microsoft president Steve Ballmer. In a related announcement, President Bill Clinton stated that he had "willingly and enthusiastically" accepted a position as vice president of USA Operations with Microsoft, and will continue to manage the United States government, reporting directly to Microsoft chairman and CEO Bill Gates. When asked how it felt to give up the mantle of executive authority, Clinton smiled and referred to it as "a relief." He went on to say that Gates has a "proven track record," and that US citizens should offer Gates their "full support and confidence." In his new role at Microsoft, Clinton will reportedly be earning several times the $200,000 annually he currently earns as US president. Gates dismissed a rumor that the US Capitol be moved to Redmond as "silly," though he did say he would make executive decisions for the US government from his existing office at Microsoft headquarters. Gates did say, however, that the US House and Senate would "of course" be abolished. "Microsoft isn't a democracy," Gates said, "yet look how well we're doing." When asked if the rumored attendant acquisition of Canada was proceeding, Gates would only say that Microsoft doesn't comment on unannounced products. Microsoft representatives closed the conference by stating that United States citizens will be able to expect lower taxes, increases in government services, discounts on all Microsoft products, and the immediate arrest of all executive officials of Sun Microsystems Inc. and Netscape Corp. About Microsoft - Founded in 1975, Microsoft (NASDAQ "MSFT") is the worldwide leader in software for personal computers, and democratic government. The company offers a wide range of products and services for public, business and personal use, each designed with the mission of making it easier and more enjoyable for people to take advantage of the full power of personal computing and mostly free society every day. About the United States - Founded in 1776, the United States of America is the most successful nation n the history of the world, and has been a beacon of democracy and opportunity for over 200 years. Headquartered in Washington, DC, the United States is a wholly owned subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation. "The United States of America" and "Microsoft" are registered trademarks of Microsoft Corporation.

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getting premail
by ichudov＠Algebra.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anyone know of a WORKING site where I can download premail from? kiwi...berkeley is refusing connections. thanxZ ignoramus

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Tim May is in good company
by Jonathan Wienke 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I think the following quotes speak for themselves: "You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go around repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in their struggle for independence." Charles M. Beard "They tell us we are weak-unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on out backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until out enemies have bound us hand and foot? "We are not weak if we make a proper use of the means which the God of nature has placed in out power. Millions of people armed in the hold cause of Liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible. Besides, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. "Many cry 'Peace, peace'-but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! Why stand we here idle? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me Liberty or give me death!" Patrick Henry "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every Kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed..." Noah Webster Jonathan Wienke PGP Key Fingerprints: 7484 2FB7 7588 ACD1 3A8F 778A 7407 2928 3312 6597 8258 9A9E D9FA 4878 C245 D245 EAA7 0DCC "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." -- Samuel Adams "Stupidity is the one arena of of human achievement where most people fulfill their potential." -- Jonathan Wienke RSA export-o-matic: print pack"C*",split/\D+/,`echo "16iII*o\U@{$/=$z;[(pop,pop,unpack"H*",<> )]}\EsMsKsN0[lN*1lK[d2%Sa2/d0<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<J]dsJxp"|dc`

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(Fwd) Victory For Microbroadcasting!!!!
by Ross Wright 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:45:16 -0800 (PST) From: gregruggiero(a)earthlink.net (Greg Ruggiero) Subject: Victory For Microbroadcasting!!!! Friends, This should raise the hopes of all microbroadcasters. We, who oppose the barriers against free communications and the corporate takeover of our media institutions, need to do all we can to ensure that the airwaves really become free. Support your local alternative media. Howard Rosenfeld ---------------------------------------------- ANOTHER VICTORY FOR FREE RADIO BERKELEY & MICROPOWER BROADCASTING At 7 PM on Thursday, [ed: correction - Wednesday] November 12 attorneys for Stephen Dunifer & Free Radio Berkeley received a 14 page decision via fax from Federal District Court Judge Claudia Wilken announcing her ruling in favor of Stephen Dunifer and Free Radio Berkeley. Her ruling denies the FCC's motion for summary judgement for a permanent injunction, states that she has jurisdiction in this case and that the FCC's regulatory structure is unconstitutional. Further, she orders the FCC to submit within 14 days a brief on the constitutional issues raised. Essentially Judge Claudia Wilken affirms all the merits and arguments raised by the defense attorneys for Stephen Dunifer and Free Radio Berkeley. Stay tuned for further details. The full text of the decision will be posted ASAP. A victory party will take place on Saturday evening, November 15 in Berkeley. Place to be announced as soon as one is secured. Everyone is invited. Stephen Dunifer Free Radio Berkeley ******************************************************************* NEW YORK Media for Change <<< FREE MEDIA >>> Changing the Media ALLIANCE listserve: nyfreemedia(a)tao.ca voicemail: (212) 969-TOFM website: http://artcon.rutgers.edu/papertiger/nyfma ******************************************************************* =-=-=-=-=-=- Ross Wright King Media: Bulk Sales of Software Media and Duplication Services http://ross.adnetsol.com Voice: (408) 259-2795

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