December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Burnore preworthily larine circumgyrate (Who Care?)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

trailblazer(a)sk.sympatico.ca (Stephen K. Goguen) wrote: > Does anybody really care who is spamming who? > I don't think so. I am not a spammer BTW! > These messages are a waste of valuable band width! > If you have a problem with a spammer take it up with them, spare the > rest of us from this boring carp! > > > On Sunday, 26 Oct 97 20:01:02 PST, nobody(a)neva.org (Neva Remailer) > wrote: > > > >An atumble Henrician. Intramastoid the cutted refight. DataBasix > >androgen. Allochroite syndesmosis. You might want to direct your comments to the author of this spammage, Gary L. Burnore <gburnore(a)databasix.com>, CEO of DataBasix, who still appears to be on a vendetta against the anonymous remailers. This particular spam campaign appears to be designed to accomplish two things: 1.) Get people upset at the anonymous remailers by posting this spam through them, and; 2.) Saturate the news search engines with matches on his name and that of his company so that any search on these words yields a vast majority of false matches. Just look at some of the Subject: lines he's posted over just the past few days: DataBasix cajoler Burnore Elamite the juxtaposit parciloquy ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ Autoceptive DataBasix sugary bultow ^^^^^^^^^ A Amoyan planula hoboism Burnore guestling ^^^^^^^ Burnore undutiful unavouchably ^^^^^^^ Perocephalus Wotan wine murder Burnore Akiyenik ^^^^^^^ Wotan votive DataBasix manglingly ^^^^^^^^^ Burnore dowery crants sla throneless ^^^^^^^ Instillator a dene meethelper orach Burnore acoine ^^^^^^^ A sith hove DataBasix cradlesong commercialist hebete ^^^^^^^^^ Unangelical visual DataBasix nonempirical ^^^^^^^^^ Burnore preworthily larine circumgyrate ^^^^^^^ Interfertile pomade outhue and Burnore cancrophagous ^^^^^^^ DataBasix preapperception ^^^^^^^^^ -- "I cannot convince myself that there is anyone so wise, so universally comprehensive in his judgment, that he can be trusted with the power to tell others: 'You shall not express yourself thus, you shall not describe your own experiences; or depict the fantasies which your mind has created; or laugh at what others set up as respectable; or question old beliefs; or contradict the dogmas of the church, of our society, our economic systems, and our political orthodoxy.'" - Jake Zeitlin

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Re: Terrorism is a NON-THREAT (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 09:08:06 -0800 > From: Steve Schear <azur(a)netcom.com> > Subject: Re: Terrorism is a NON-THREAT (fwd) > No amount of deaths are adequate cause for suspending the constitutional > rights of our citizens. If the Feds can't adequately protect our citizens > from criminal activities w/o trampling on our rights then its time for us > to reorganize into different geo-political structures which may. No, it is time WE take responsibility back for our actions and control our own lives and quit abrogating it to some asshole who will promise anything to get us to give them money for nothing (ie taxes). > Once > solutions offered from D.C. include suspension of our civil rights its time > to put allt he options on the table, including considering the abandonment > of the entire compact. If we abandon democracy then we are admitting that ALL social systems are a failure. Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others? Or have we found angels in the forms of kings to govern him? Let history answer this question. Thomas Jefferson, 1st Inaugural Addr ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Terrorism is a NON-THREAT (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii(a)invweb.net> > Date: Thu, 30 Oct 97 08:27:55 -0600 > Subject: Re: Terrorism is a NON-THREAT (fwd) > Well THANK YOU Jim for joining forces with the Government NewSpeakers in > bastardising the language. Military and Police actions by governments is > NOT Terrorism!! Yes, Bill it is. *ANY* use of violence for anything other than IMMEDIATE SELF-DEFENCE is terrorism. Simply being on the *winning* side does not make your actions any less terrorist. Any use of violence except in immediate self-defence is in effect saying "do what I say or I kill you". THAT is the definition of terrorism. > Everything bad that happens is NOT Terrorism!! Just > because it is politically expediant to call somthing Terrorism does not > make it so! If you have a point then do so and let it stand on it's > merrits rather than trying to win brownie points by stealing emotional > value from an established lable. This is a shallow debating technique of a > weak mind. Bill, I have never done anything but been willing to let my views stand on their own two feet. > Exactly how many have died from Terrorist acts?? I contend that it is > below 10,000 in the past ten years and more than likely closer to 2,000. > Even at 10,000 we are only looking at most 50-100 Americans a year!! Well, if we look at Jan. 1, 1900 as the starting date for our accounting I would estimate that somewhere between 2 to 5 BILLION poeple have died due to terrorist acts. It doesn't make it right whether it is the Khmer Rhouge, SOG, Shinning Path, The SLA, CIA in Laos or Columbia, Ruby Ridge, KAL 007, TWA 800, IRA, SDS, Black Panthers, or some old lady in Ill. who wants to committ suicide. When you kill or threaten somebody for what they believe or what they are you are committing terrorism. > The whole point of my orriginal message that you seem unable to grasp ("no > suprise") is that 50-100 deaths/year does not justify turning this country > into a police state!! *NOTHING* justifies turning a democracy into a police state, that is the WHOLE point to democracies in the first place; NOTHING justifies a police state. Go back and read the Declaration of Independance again, you missed something in previous readings. If anything Bill, *you* are the one who has unwittingly (I hope) swallowed their jism. If you yank on a dogs chain and it bites you, it isn't the dogs fault. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Got an IRS horror story?
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>> >> >> <B>Republicans launch Web site to gather "horror stories'<P> >> WASHINGTON (AP) ã Got a story about the Internal Revenue Service? >> House Republicans opened a new Internet site Wednesday "to collect >>IRS horror stories from the American people." >> The new site is on the House Republican Conference's World Wide Web >>page. It's aimed at giving "the American people the opportunity to share >>the frightening experiences they have had when dealing with the IRS as >>Congress prepares to pass significant IRS reform," GOP lawmakers said in >>a statement. >> The Web site also contains a short poll on the IRS and tax reform, >>with questions such as "Do you think the IRS abuses its power or uses it >>responsibly?" >> ããã >> The site is http://hillsource.house.gov. >> APTV-10-29-97 1907EST >>

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White House reiterates support for censorware
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Note: > -- Promoted a "family friendly" Internet: President Clinton has >worked to make cyberspace a safe place for children by cracking down >on illegal content on the Internet and encouraging the private sector >to develop software that can screen out content that is inappropriate >for children. -Declan **************** White House Fact Sheet on 'Starbright World' NETWORKS FOR PEOPLE: CLINTON-GORE AND THE INFORMATION SUPERHIGHWAY October 30, 1997 "And I challenge the private sector tonight to start by connecting every children's hospital as soon as possible, so that a child in bed can stay in touch with school, family and friends. A sick child need no longer be a child alone." -- President Clinton, State of the Union Address, February 4, 1997 Today, President Clinton and Vice President Gore will unveil and demonstrate Starbright World, an on-line computer network that enables seriously ill children to meet, play and verbally communicate with one another.. Starbright World meets the President's State of the Union challenge to the private sector to help connect seriously ill children in hospitals across the country. They will be joined in launching this program by Starbright Chairman Steven Spielberg and Starbright Capital Campaign Chairman General H. Norman Schwarzkopf. President Clinton and Vice President Gore have made promoting the Internet and other information and communications technologies a top priority. They believe that the Internet is an engine of economic growth and job creation, and a powerful tool for educating our children and expanding access to health care. Below are just a few of their accomplishments: -- Created an "e-rate" for schools, libraries and rural health clinics: As part of the Telecommunications Act of 1996, President Clinton fought for an "e-rate" which will provide more than $2.5 billion per year in discounts for schools, libraries and rural health clinics to connect to the Internet. -- Proposed a $2 billion Technology Literacy Challenge Fund: To put the future at the fingertips of our children, President Clinton believes we must connect every classroom to the Internet by the year 2000, increase the number of multimedia computers in the classroom, give teachers the training they need to use technology effectively, and promote the development of high-quality educational software. To help states and local communities meet these goals, President Clinton has proposed a 5-year, $2 billion Technology Literacy Challenge Fund, with more than $400 million in funding in his FY98 budget. -- Promoted a "family friendly" Internet: President Clinton has worked to make cyberspace a safe place for children by cracking down on illegal content on the Internet and encouraging the private sector to develop software that can screen out content that is inappropriate for children. -- Supported grassroots efforts to bring technology to our schools: President Clinton and Vice President Gore have been active participants in volunteer efforts like "NetDay" and "U.S. Tech Corps." -- Invested in the Next Generation Internet: President Clinton has launched an initiative to connect more than 100 universities at speeds that are 100-1,000 times faster than today's Internet, and to develop the next generation of applications, such as telemedicine. This will ensure that the United States remains at the cutting-edge of Internet technology. -- Developed a strategy to foster global electronic commerce: In July 1997, President Clinton unveiled a strategy to eliminate the barriers to global electronic commerce, which will create instant access to global markets for America

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Whitehouse Seige Ends Peacefully!
by Canadian Nutly News 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[Bienfait, Saskatchewan: CNN] THE BARTENDER at the Coal Dust Saloon announced earlier today that the seige of the Whitehouse by armed CypherPunks ended peacefully today, when the occupants were knocked down with Teflon-coated, hollow-point Destructor bullets the size of drain plugs. Chief CypherPunks Spokesperson, [Your Name Here], was pleased to announce that the Whitehouse occupants, including the late Director of the FBI, "are SAFE, now."

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Rules for a successful society
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Q: Don't want to get shot? A: Don't break into my house, try to assault me, or steal my car. Q: Don't want to be beaten about the head and shoulders with a large club? A: Stay off my property unless invited. The PRIMARY rule of a successful society: Treat others the way you want to be treated, NO EXCEPTIONS. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: Internet Censorware Summit, Clinton to speak, Dec 1-3
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here's one response, personal notes deleted... I also got a call from one of the organizers of the summit offering to include free speech/journalism groups in it, or at least talking to them about the possibility... --Declan >[...] > >I understand your concerns about the Summit, and what folks are trying >to do to protect children online. We just wish that you wouldn't lump >everything together, and pass judgment on it as a whole. Why oppose the >Summit? Why not analyze the different solutions that are being offered, >and report on what works and how? Why would you guys want to deny >people information? If I may be so bold, aren't you employing your own >form of censorship if you don't tell the whole story? There are some >good tools on the market, but often times they get lost in the crowd. > >[...] > >Shouldn't parents be able to use these tools in their own >homes if they see a need? Why not give people the facts, and let them >decide for themselves? If a parent would like to prevent a child from >giving address, credit card, and other information out to "just anybody" >on the Internet, what's wrong with that? If a parent would like to log >his 8 year old's Internet activity, what's wrong with that? If a parent >wants to screen out the word "sex" for every incoming transmission, >what's wrong with that? Isn't it up to the individual to decide whether >or not they want to buy this software?\ > >[...] > >Would you reconsider your opposition of the Summit? I think there is a >lot of opportunity to weed through the "b.s." and give the public some >good information about what is available, what works, and what solution >best supports free speech while protecting children. > >[...]

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Seige of Ramsey Household Ends Peacefully!
by Canadian Nutly News 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[Bienfait, Saskatchewan: CNN] AN UNKNOWN murderer announced today that his seige of the Ramsey household ended peacefully, with the dead, limp body of Jon Bonet Ramsey being knocked down with a penis the size of a drainplug. The unknown murderer was pleased to announce that "Jon Bonet, is SAFE, now."

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Re: Protocols for Insurance to Maintain Privacy
by Mix 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I wrote: >I have my doubts as to whether it is possible to set up a really good >anonymous insurance scheme. At some point the customer must >physically be matched up with the policy. The damage may be >minimized by putting a hash of the customer's DNA markers in the >policy instead of the markers themselves. But, when the customer >wishes to draw on the policy, his or her markers will have to be >taken. > >If there were a way for the representative of the insurance company >to absolutely verify the DNA markers such that the customer could be >absolutely certain the information didn't leave the room, a really >good anonymous policy would be feasible. But, I can't think of a way >to do this. I've thought about this some more and there is a way to do this that at least works in theory. Let's say there are 30 DNA markers to be used to uniquely identify a physical person. When creating the contract, the customer creates 30 hashes based on each marker. Prior to the time the customer has a health problem, privacy is well assured assuming he or she doesn't have a blood sample taken forcibly. When the customer goes in for treatment, the insurer selects at random one of the 30 markers and verifies it. If it checks out, treatment is provided. The way to prevent people from trying to get lucky on the markers is for the customer and the insurer to make a bet before the test. This is a safe bet for the customer - he or she knows the outcome. If the odds and payoff are set correctly, it's a good deal for the insurer, too, because he or she will make money on fraud attempts. Let's take the worst case: only one of the 30 marker is different. Let's say the insurance contract consists of a health bet with a payoff of $100,000 if the ailment insured for is found. If the customer is willing to bet $3 million that any marker selected will be correct, the insurer breaks even. However, since the customer knows with certainty the outcome of the bet, he or she is safe betting (theoretically) any amount. This can be set arbitrarily high so that the insurer actually stands to make a substantial amount of money off fraud attempts. In practice some provision will have to be made for people who can't arrange the $3 million, such as taking fraud artists out to the parking lot and shooting them. And there still needs to be a way for one DNA marker to be tested for in a way which guarantees that none of the others are studied. Perhaps when the customer goes in, he or she takes samples of DNA with all thirty markers. When the insurer selects a particular marker, a blood sample is drawn, and the customer puts in DNA with the 29 other markers so that it will not be possible to study any marker other than the one intended. If each insurance contract is linked to only one type of illness, then the only information revealed is that somebody with one particular DNA marker had such and such an illness. This seems pretty secure. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNFjP6JaWtjSmRH/5AQGwjgf/SIMSKV3prkmD3WDaiwojOhgxA+V0iLeY UAwHUKoOgIQAZ+5SKz2SsP6219jyi4i1mGbQFwXc8kydeEuia81/gAReo+63wZgB S6hlh9bUc4lp//S/ql5YISypNEKWXE6o7hE3IvdAeUrRlxEyU04fLmwW2UcejeFB rTdqFQLsTbONf1bvevJ4MplnhG/O7fRUDF3jneRxDZuib60EO8zUvbvpvDhaYM/e TMeuK5OywHOCX6EQc5eZ7ER1pIWgxR1cXwm428Qvk07z8VoTDJyy6QMLs+EzPcp6 Es94M2JezFmDAfD6nDGdLzrs8h4IJITdjWujLL4VQeJi6LwP7RB5NQ== =eHkn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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