December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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17 Dec '03

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New Mac68k snapshot available
by Hans Guenter Weigand 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The second snapshot for mac68k is available at the usual locations. This time the newest installation tools are included. The errata of the first snapshot have been fixed. Please report all errors, problems, failure, and (of course:) success to Theo de Raadt or at least to the appropriate mailing list. Thanks to Allen, Rodney and Thomas for the last-minute-help! hgw

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Re: FCPUNX:PGP Key Escrow and Congress
by goddesshera＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Wed, Oct 15, 1997 at 02:10:54PM -0400, Eli Brandt wrote: > Bruce Schneier wrote: > > From: "Barbara Simons" <simons(a)VNET.IBM.COM> > > > > Some of these are old arguments that we've been hearing for a while, > > but some are newer. In particular, points 4 and 6 are difficult to > > refute without getting into some technical details. Both points also > > undercut the argument that a key recovery infrastructure potentially > > weakens security. After all, the NSA thinks it's secure enough that it > > can be used by the government. > > Non-technical point: the NSA (reportedly) has no intention of using > GAK for classified information. They know that it weakens security. You have this wrong. In fact, NSA *supplies* keys for classified encryption equipment. They never told me whether they "escrowed" copies of the keys they supply -- what do you think? > Do the privacy of the nation's data and the security of its > information infrastructure deserve the same consideration as the > Pentagon's "Confidential" memos? When you're planning to build in a > single point of failure, this is a question you have to ask. In fact, it's much more complex. People with real classified data don't trust encryption at all, and they only use it if they absolutely have to. They, unlike many cypherpunks, remember well that there are other ways to get information besides running big computers, and if you have protections against those in place already, crypto doesn't buy much. But classified data isn't really interesting. Though by any measure there are huge amounts of it, it is dwarfed by the amount of government data that is not classified. To protect that data government agencies will use comercial crypto, and "key recovery" *will* be required in any commercial product purchased by a government agency. As use of crypto becomes commonplace business practice, the government market will be huge, and consequently, commercial products with key recovery *will* be prevelant. Any company that doesn't supply it will be relegated to niche markets, and, if legal winds blow the wrong way, eliminated. Crow This message was automatically remailed. The sender is unknown, unlogged, and nonreplyable. Send complaints and blocking requests to <goddesshera(a)juno.com>.

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Web Biz Universal Remove List Update
by postmaster＠thehitman.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: CFV: comp.org.cauce moderated -- support privacy and anonymity
by Igor Chudov ＠ home 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[This message has also been posted.] [I am objecting to a proposal that seeks to ban one-way anonymous remailers and other forms of unrepliable addresses such as spamblocked addresses]. In news.groups, WD Baseley <wbaseley(a)mindspring.com> wrote: * [my apologies to the net at large for replying sans *snecks* - I don't * know which group is read by the person to whom I'm replying.] * In article <3447bfd7.22958863(a)128.2.84.191>, phelix(a)vallnet.com * >On 14 Oct 1997 11:57:07 -0400, moz(a)server2.mich.com (John C. Mozena) wrote: * >>Igor Chudov @ home <ichudov(a)algebra.com> wrote: * >>>Vote AGAINST comp.org.cauce which wants to outlaw anonymity and * >>>use of spamblocked addresses. Go to news.groups and find the * >>>CFV for comp.org.cauce, with the ballot enclosed. * >> * >>Vote for comp.org.cauce, which protects the utility of a newsgroup and the * >>freedom of postmasters to not run anonymous posting services should they * >>not so desire. * > * >Well, I just started reading this, and I didn't really know which way to * >vote. But such an anti-anonymnity stance makes the choice clear: * > * >vote *NO*. * * Since you just started reading this, I think you need more background * before coming to a decision. I'm not trying to influence it one way * or another; I'm just trying to give you more complete information. * I'm posting and emailing, and I'm sure that if I get it wrong I'll be * jumped upon thoroughly in the newsgroups - feel free to look there and * see if that happened. By all means, as one of the opponents of the proposal and supporter of anonymity, I ask you to do so and also get your privacy-concerned friends to take a close look at the debate. For example, here's what the proponent said: Mozena>>But, what do you have against anonymity? Mozena> Mozena>Nothing. What right do you have, though, to force me and others to Mozena>inconvenience ourselves so you can post anonymously or protect yourself Mozena>from spam? * The RFD requires posters to use addresses which receive, and reply to, * email; in other words, no munged, faked, spamblocked, or other * bouncing or redirecting addresses. There is nothing that says you * must use your real name, or any other identifier, that tells who you * really are. If "the-return-of-zorro(a)example.com" receives and replies * to email, it can be used to post to the proposed group. "Anonymity", * the ability to post without anyone knowing your true identity, is not * really the issue. Even anonymous remailers will work if they forward * email in both directions. But mungs and spamblocks will not work. These are not anonymous remailers, they offer a much lower security, they are not very reliable by their very design, and the only *true* anonymity can come from a one-way remailer. The proposal, as it stands, seeks to outlaw the one-way anonymous remailers. * John Mozena's comment on anonymous posting services stems, I'm pretty * sure, from an alternative offered by several folks. The idea was: * posters would add an 'X-Real-Address' line to their posts; the * moderation bot would use that line for correspondence, but remove it * before making the post public. John Mozena and others at CAUCE were * unwilling to do this because of possible legal ramifications; John * likened it to running an anonymous posting service, and wondered what * the consequences would be should someone use it to post copyrighted or * sensitive information. Well, this is NOT true. John objected to it with the argument that he does not like unrepliable addresses appearing in newsgroups. Anyway, all this talk about the X-Real_Address: field is NOT related to true anonymity, by the very definition of the latter. -- - Igor. The average American spends a total of six (6) months in prison.

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Re: FC: FBI is allowed to keep file on civil rights leader (fwd)
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:01:46 -0400 From: Marc Rotenberg <rotenberg(a)epic.org> To: declan(a)well.com Subject: Re: FC: FBI is allowed to keep file on civil rights leader > > <B>FBI allowed to keep file on New York man's lawful activities<P> > WASHINGTON (AP) - The Supreme Court today refused to order the FBI >to purge its file on lawful activities by the former head of a charitable >foundation. Classic error for a news report on the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court denied cert. Lance Lindblom v. FBI, 97-82, Oct. 14, 1997. It did not rule on the merits of the case. The Court did not order the FBI to purge the files. It did not tell the FBI to buy Mr. Lindblom a cup of coffee. It simply decided not to review the decision of the lower court. Welcome back. M.

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Re: Document on Customizing OpenBSD after install
by K.R. Lewis 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:46 AM 10/15/97 -0700, J. Joseph Max Katz wrote: AND Randy Lewis has a remark about JJMK's response....below >Re... > >In the coming weekend, I'll be updating the newuser FAQ >(for things like PPP and 2.2). I'm sure a post-install checklist would be >a welcome addition. > >B U T . . . . > >Not everyone runs things like Kerberos or DNS. Keep in mind that many >people use OpenBSD for many things and in many environs. The OpenBSD setup >on my firewall at the office is much different than the Sparc, Alpha, and >P5/133 I run it on at home. The setup on my router machine at home is also >much different than the other machines in my house. There are ways people >have setup OpenBSD on embeded systems to do things like manage the >fuel/air mix ratio on their Corvettes (OK, one person I know of planned >that, but couldn't get the financing for the car...) I hope that draws the >picture. > >As for the verification after install, that is sort of "auto-manditory"-- >if a filesystem isn't mounted right, /etc/fstab has to be checked out. If >the network doesn't work, the network files must be examined to "make it >go." As oopposed to attacking this as a checklist, how about it is >attacked as "If networking doesn't work, check hostname.(interface)"-- but >there is more to that then just files in /etc (boot -c in order to >reconfigure hardware addresses) As a user of OpenBSD, and having tried to manage projects with it for implementation of added features for customers...I could not agree with the above position. You see, if you are ALREADY familiar with OpenBSD then you will most likely know exactly what to do when installing and seting up a system. New User's Notes / Installation Checklist's will most likely be ignored by you. However, if you are brand new to the system, then an Installation / Setup Checklist (a good one) will prove to be essential. Wouldn't it be great if just about every post to these groups from a new user was one like "..hey! This OpenBSD thingy works great! The installation was a snap!.." or something like that. We all know that hardly happens now...but, it could..... I, for one, believe strongly that a good 'Overview', 'Setup Notes' and 'Installation Checklist' must somehow find it's way into the distribution. It is also clear that the machine / arch specific differences will require unique versions for each. Randy > >/---------------------------------------------------------------- >/ Jonathan Katz, jkatz(a)cpio.org / http://www.cpio.org >/ Student, Unix geek, Security guy / http://posse.cpio.org >/ President and Founder: Corinne Posse / http://jon.katz.com >/ Phone: +1 (317) 590-7092 / "OpenBSD: Secure!" >/ "The meek may inherit the earth, >/ but Gale and I will seize the stars!" > >On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Marshall Midden wrote: > >> Is there a checklist someplace on what to do after the install of OpenBSD 2.2? >> >> I'm thinking like: >> 1) Go into /etc >> a) Verify disks and network interfaces configured correctly. >> Files: fstab, hosts, myname, hostname.le0, mygate, resolv.conf, defaultdomain. >> You might wish to turn off multicast routing in /etc/netstart. >> b) Edit motd to make lawyers comfortable and delete "Welcome". >> c) Fix passwd via "vipw" to change passwords, set up users, etc. >> Make sure password on "root". Default is no password from console, and >> disabled from network. Make sure to edit "group" for any user groups, >> and to put people into the wheel group if they need root access. >> d) Any local configuration change in: rc.conf, rc.local >> e) printcap, hosts.lpd Get printers set up >> f) Tighten security: >> fbtab Set security for X >> inetd.conf Turn off extra stuff, add that which is really needed. >> rc.securelevel Turn on Network Time Protocol. >> g) kerberosIV Get kerberos configured. Remember to get a srvtab. >> h) aliases Local mail delivery (set postmaster, etc). Run newaliases >> after changes. >> i) bootptab If this is a bootp server. >> j) ccd.conf If using concatenated disks (striped, etc). >> k) exports If this is an NFS server. >> m) NIS (old yellow pages), hosts.equiv, defaultdomain, etc. >> n) ifaliases for www, etc. >> o) daily, weekly, monthly. >> p) "amd" directory if using this package. >> q) rbootd if needed for remote booting (ethernet MAC address to IP translation). >> r) Any other files and directories in /etc. >> >> 2) crontab -l. Do you need anything else? >> 3) After the first nights security run, change ownerships and permissions on things. >> Best bet is to have permissions as in the security list. >> > > >.. . () | Kenneth R. (Randy) Lewis _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ | email: krl(a)vicomp.com _/ _/ _/ | phone: +1 919 644 6306 _/ _/ _/ | fax: +1 919 644 6409 _/ _/ _/ | smail: V.I Computer, Inc. _/ _/ _/ | 531 Encinitas Blvd _/_/ _/ | Bldg 114 _/ _/_/_/ | Encinitas, CA 92024 . . computer corp. | http://www.vmepower.com

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Personal use crypto export
by Jim Gillogly 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm moved to repeat Matt Blaze's exercise of a couple of years ago, where he went through the rigamarole to get an Official Paper from Customs or State or whoever was in charge to take his laptop out of the country with crypto on it for his personal use overseas. His experiences finding the right person to talk to to get a form, then his inability to find a Customs official to look at it on the way back, were semi-hilarious. However, now that crypto exports in general have moved from ITAR to EAR and BXA is in charge of general crypto exports, I can't find out how to get the right form to take out a laptop with PGP (or anything else) on it. Can anybody give me a pointer to whoever thinks they're in charge of this stuff? Or have they given up on this phase? Thanks... -- Jim Gillogly 24 Winterfilth S.R. 1997, 18:38 12.19.4.10.12, 7 Eb 10 Yax, Fifth Lord of Night

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update.341 (fwd) [edited]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From physnews(a)aip.org Wed Oct 15 14:00:06 1997 > Date: Wed, 15 Oct 97 10:28:48 EDT > From: physnews(a)aip.org (AIP listserver) > Message-Id: <9710151428.AA08697(a)aip.org> > To: physnews-mailing(a)aip.org > Subject: update.341 > > PHYSICS NEWS UPDATE > The American Institute of Physics Bulletin of Physics News > Number 341 October 15, 1997 by Phillip F. Schewe and Ben > Stein > > THE 1997 NOBEL PRIZE FOR PHYSICS has been won by [text deleted] > THE FIRST SOLID MATERIAL THAT CAN REVERSIBLY > SWITCH BETWEEN METAL AND INSULATOR at room > temperature and pressure, and without changing its chemical > makeup, has been created by researchers at UCLA (James Heath, > heath(a)chem.ucla.edu) The researchers prepare a Langmuir film, > an ultrathin layer of material on a water surface. The film consists > of a 2-D hexagonal pattern of silver nanocrystals (only nm size) > with each nanocrystal's surface capped by compressible organic > molecules. Applying pressure to the film can decrease the distance > between adjacent nanocrystals from 12 to 5 angstroms. When > compressed, the film becomes shiny and its optical properties match > those of a thin metal film. Prior to compression, the film has the > optical properties of an insulator: in this state, the > nanocrystalsbehave as semi-isolated particles and they do not share > electrons. As the separation between nanocrystals decreases, the > researchers observe a transition from "classical coupling" (adjacent > nanocrystals induce the movement of charge in each other and > thereby transfer energy) to "quantum coupling" (nanocrystals begin > to share electrons simultaneously and electrons delocalize, or cease > to occupy a specific position in the material). (C. P. Collier et al, > Science, 26 September 1997) >

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Liberal lawyer joke from Cdn-Firearms Digest V2 #34
by jf_avon＠citenet.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 15 Oct 97 at 8:38, Cdn-Firearms Digest wrote: > FOCUS: A Liberal lawyer sitting in Parliament thinks that a new law will > fix anything. What is the difference between a Liberal lawyer sitting in > Parliament and a sturgeon? One is a scum-sucking bottom feeder, and the > other is a fish. >

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