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No Subject
by THE DUKE 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Have you ever realized that this list is for straight-up (used loosely) losers? The government is not planning to murder everyone. The Government is not keeping aliens in the 'basement'. The X-Files are not real. The government is not murdering public figures, and setting-up pore, civilian saps to take the fall. The only thing that the Government is doing is running our country the best it can. All you are doing for the Government, is finding fault and conspiracy in every action. You are destroying the Government, and are thereby destroying America. By even being a part of this list, you are confirming to the mindlessness that you so hard are trying not to do. None of you have my pity. I spit upon you all. THE.DUKE pleontks(a)hotmail.com http://www.angelfire.com/az/69frank69 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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No Subject
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"THE DUKE" <pleontks(a)hotmail.com> writes: >The government is not planning to murder everyone. The Government is >not keeping aliens in the 'basement'. The X-Files are not real. The >government is not murdering public figures, and setting-up pore, >civilian saps to take the fall. The only thing that the Government is >doing is running our country the best it can. The Government routinely lies to the citizens it allegedly represents. It infringes on the rights guaranteed those citizens by the Constitution. The FCC can't allocate radio bandwidth efficiently, byt they seem to have no problem telling Howard Stern not to say "vagina" on the radio. I could go on and on, ad nauseam, but you get the idea. If this is their best effort, they should be horsewhipped, tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail. Unfortunately, the brain-dead populace continues to get hypnotized by their Pied-Piper tales and makes the biennial Bataan death march to the polls (nice double entendre there, n'est-ce pas?) to choose between Picto Bold and Picto Light, the two candidates in their district who have a single common goal: to get elected to an office where they can get a firm lip clamp on the teat of the American taxpayer, and skim off the lobbyists in their spare time. Neither one really gives a flying fuck about the people they represent; it's the power they want. >All you are doing for the Government, is finding fault and conspiracy in >every action. You are destroying the Government, and are thereby >destroying America. Why would I want to do anything for the Government? I already pay them a tithe (oh, sure, you can call it "income tax") to stay the fuck away from me, by and large. As soon as someone shows up at my door and says "Hi, I'm here from the Government to help you," I'm running for my life. That kind of "help" usually results in gunfire, or dependence on further Government subidies, or having mopey Government types hang around to explain to me that I should use water-based varnish so I don't wreck the ozone layer. >None of you have my pity. I spit upon you all. None of us need your pity. And wipe your chin when you're done. And say "hi" to Mr. Freeh next time you see him. Of course, it won't be his face that'll be at eye level. . . AngerMonger

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1998 IEEE Symposium on Security and Privacy
by Mike Reiter 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The call-for-papers for the 1998 IEEE Symposium on Security and Privacy can be found at http://www.research.att.com/~reiter/oakland98.html - Mike

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Re: Internet Via Electric Lines? (fwd)
by phelix＠vallnet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 9 Oct 1997 02:25:13 -0500, "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii(a)invweb.net> wrote: > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >In <199710081234.HAA11747(a)einstein.ssz.com>, on 10/08/97 > at 07, Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> said: > >>Forwarded message: > >>> From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii(a)invweb.net> >>> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 97 01:28:42 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: Internet Via Electric Lines? > >>> This is nothing new. > >>At least late 70's. > >>> I think it was GE that several years ago created phone extensions that you >>> plugged into your power outlets, no need to run wire to put in an extra >>> outlet. I believe that X-10 uses this same principle for computer control >>> of household appliances. >>> >>> Not to mention data leakage through power lines is an issue long reconized >>> by the TEMPEST crowd. >>> >>> The trick here seems to be in routing the data. How do you get data on the >>> power grid routed to the location that you want it to go?? > >>The trick with X-10 is to stay away from transformers as the signal won't >>go through them effectively. This ends any dreams of sending data to your >>neighbor, the signal won't go through your power meter. > >This seems to be a Goodthing(TM) for residential X-10 as it would seem to >take care of a lot of security issues by effectively isolating each home >from others who may be running the same system. > >Has anyone researched the security issues around X-10? Is the Transformer >isolation good enough protection from a dedicated attack (as opposed to >accidental signal leakage)? Are their alternative routes for transmitting >the FM signal (Airwaves) that the X-10 devices would pick up?? Do any of >the current X-10 devices use signal authentication/verification? > X-10? security? hehehe... that's good for a laugh. There is no security whatsover in X-10. If your neighbor knows the addresses of your X-10 units and his power comes off the same transformer as yours, he can easily turn your lights on and off. The only thing protecting you (besides obscurity) is the transformer that isolates your power line from others. X-10 doesn't use any type of FM signal. It simply transmits bits in the zeros of the ac power 'signal'. It only get 120bps and most signals are repeated 3 times (even with that, the signal sometimes gets lost in the line noise), so really you only get 40bps. A command consists simply of [address],[command]. The address is 8 bits long, I dont' remember how long the command is. In X-10 speak, and address is [A-P] [1-16]. The commands are on,off,bright,dim,all-lights-on, and a few others. There's no security, no encryption, not even collision detection when using more than one transmitter. Now, there a new system called cebus, but it's over 10X more expensive. I don't know too much about it. -- Phelix

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Re: 6502 ML programming (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 02:32:27 -0400 > From: ghio(a)temp0133.myriad.ml.org (Matthew Ghio) > Subject: Re: 6502 ML programming > Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> wrote: > > > > There in no 'DATA' construct in 6502 assembly. > > > > This is some sort of macro that either the assembler or programmer > > defined. All official Rockwell/Commodore [1] 6502 assembly mnemonics are > > three letter. > > True, but most assemblers would let you insert static data into the object > file using various pseudo-ops like that. > > > > Idealy a jump table was created that had the various target addresses for > > your routines. > > Oh, those were fun to debug too... > > > > The most efficient way to store data in 6502 is to put it in the first 256 > > bytes of ram, then it could be called in no more than 2 clock cycles. > > Actually that took three cycles. One to fetch the opcode, one to fetch the > target address, and one to fetch the data byte. If you wanted to do it in > two cycles, you had to write the data into the operand of the instruction > that loaded it (self-modifying code). Wow, we actualy agree on all points...that has to be a first. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Component-based Commerce: CCS Lunch Talk Friday, October 17
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:22:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Wysopal <cwysopal(a)skywriting.com> To: dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu Subject: Component-based Commerce: CCS Lunch Talk Friday, October 17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: bounce-dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Chris Wysopal <cwysopal(a)skywriting.com> From: Roanne Neuwirth [SMTP:roanne@MIT.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 1997 10:27 AM To: ccs-lunch(a)MIT.EDU Subject: Component-based Commerce: CCS Lunch Talk Friday, October 17 Greetings! This is to announce a CCS Lunch Talk, Friday, October 17, from 12-1:30 pm in E40-170. Bring your lunch and join us for an interesting session. We are pleased to welcome Jay M. Tenenbaum, Chairman of CommerceNet to CCS. He will speak on component-based commerce and an exciting new project. See you there!! Component-based Commerce Jay M. Tenenbaum Chairman, CommerceNet Digital anarchy is threatening the explosive growth of Internet commerce. Proprietary applications and platforms cannot communicate above the level of browsers. Websites are difficult to locate and incomprehensible to software agents. Such limitations prevent online businesses from leveraging each other's services, resulting in closed markets and trading communities. In response, CommerceNet has launched an ambitious object-oriented interoperability framework initiative called eCo System. eCo treats all commerce services on the Web as business objects. It provides the infrastructure (a Common Business Language, standardized metadata and middleware) for combining them in novel ways to build virtual companies, markets, and trading communities. eCo complements commercial ecommerce platforms, enabling them to communicate with one another, thus expanding the market for all. eCo System promises to transform the Internet into a massive economy of online services, all linked through a common framework. Companies will be able to encapsulate their services (e.g., shipping, banking) as eCo objects, that customers can seemlessly integrate into their own business processes. Entrepreneurs will be able to create innovative value-added services that compare, aggregate, integrate, and translate data across companies -- finding the best price or the closest supplier for example. This potential for instant partnering and for rapidly experimenting with new business concepts could spark an explosion of entrepreneurial activity rivaling that of the web itself. Based on market analyses by Forrester and IDC, CommerceNet projects a $1 Billion market for eCo-enabled Internet commerce building blocks and tools by the year 2000. The Internet commerce transactions enabled by these components could exceed $100 Billion. The talk will cover eCo System from both a technology and business perspective. Dr. Jay M. Tenenbaum (BS MIT '64; Ph.D. Stanford '71) is widely acknowledged as a founder of Internet commerce and its leading visionary. In 1990 he started EIT, the company that pioneered the enabling security and payment infrastructure. In 1994 he formed CommerceNet, the leading industry association for Internet commerce with nearly 600 corporate members worldwide. Dr. Tenenbaum has been a consulting Professor of Computer Science at Stanford University and currently serves on the boards of six Internet start ups. For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "dcsb-request(a)ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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Re: anonymous poster quality up
by jimg＠mentat.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: > - --Tim May (I'll sign this with my new PGP 5.0 key, which has also been > signed with my 1992 PGP 2.0 key) So what <is> your new PGP 5.0 public key? I checked for the key ID 0xDF02DF6A on the key server at www.pgp.com and didn't see it. I <do> believe your claim that it's a 5.0 key, though, since it ends in the even nibble 'A', and all RSA key IDs are odd. :) Jim Gillogly jim(a)acm.org

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