December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Password pirates plunder XXX sites, from The Netly News
by Donald E. Eastlake 3rd 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Although you can never completely eliminate it, technological fixes to do velocity checking, source IP address profiling, etc., seem so obvious I just don't see how this can be any sort of insurmountable problem... It should have been obvious from the start that you would have a lot more people trying to steal service from a porn site than from, say, a Disney site. Donald On Wed, 4 Jun 1997, Robert Hettinga wrote: > Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 23:47:10 -0400 > From: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> > To: dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu > Subject: Password pirates plunder XXX sites, from The Netly News > > --- begin forwarded text > > Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 12:01:22 -0700 (PDT) > From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: Password pirates plunder XXX sites, from The Netly News > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net > Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> > X-Loop: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net > > [We include links to sites with porn passwords in today's story, BTW. > --Declan] > > ******* > > http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/opinion/0,1042,1015,00.html > > The Netly News Network (http://netlynews.com/) > June 4, 1997 > > Porn Free > by Chris Stamper and Greg Lindsay (thenetlynews(a)pathfinder.com) > > Sexfilms.com used to be a small, members-only adult site > that shipped full-frame videos over a super-fast T-3 line. Traffic on > the site was comfortably low for about a year, owner Ray Alba says, > until one name -- "Joe Camaro" -- started appearing with some > frequency. Actually, it started appearing 500 times a minute. From > Sweden, Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore -- just about anywhere. Somebody > was passing out the password. > > Download speeds faltered, from 300K/sec to 6K/sec. And then the > servers themselves began to crash. Finally, Alba had to shut down the > site for several weeks to clear out Camaro and numerous other accounts > that had leaked out to the Net. Alba was the latest victim of... Porn > Piratz! > > A huge number of passwords to pay-only porn sites are loose on > the Net. Just surf newsgroups like alt.sex.passwords or do a simple > search through a typical web engine and long lists of logins are easy > to find. Some of these logins are giveaways from people who ponied up > the low, one-time-only flat fees that many sites charge. Others, > apparently, were obtained with phony credit card numbers. Who knows > how Porn Piratz get the rest. But they do: A Hustler executive told us > that Hustler's sites have seven times its paid membership logging on > every day. > > [...] > > --- end forwarded text > > > > ----------------- > Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox > e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA > "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, > [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to > experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' > The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ > > > > For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to > "dcsb-request(a)ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". > ===================================================================== Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1 508-287-4877(tel) dee(a)cybercash.com 318 Acton Street +1 508-371-7148(fax) dee(a)world.std.com Carlisle, MA 01741 USA +1 703-620-4200(main office, Reston, VA) http://www.cybercash.com http://www.eff.org/blueribbon.html

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IRS Hit
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

5 June 1997, NYP: A federal judge in Denver has awarded $250,000 in punitive damages to a woman whose family business was raided by armed Internal Revenue Service agents four weeks after the woman insulted an IRS agent. The revenue agents padlocked all three Kids Avenue clothing stores in Colorado Springs, and posted notices that some customers interpreted as evidence that the woman, Carole Ward, 49, was a drug smuggler. In a harshly worded 17-page opinion, Judge William Downes of the U.S. District Court in Denver found that one of the IRS agents, James Dolan, was "grossly negligent" and acted with "reckless disregard" for the law, and that he made three false statements in a sworn declaration. The judge, who said the actions by the IRS agents violated Ms. Ward's privacy rights, wrote that the punitive damages award "gives notice to the IRS that reprehensible abuse of authority by one of its employees cannot and will not be tolerated." ----- Full story at: http://jya.com/irshit.htm

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17 Dec '03

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Re: IRS Hit
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <1.5.4.32.19970605134956.008db240(a)pop.pipeline.com>, on 06/05/97 at 08:49 AM, John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> said: >In a harshly worded 17-page opinion, Judge William Downes of the U.S. >District Court in Denver found that one of the IRS agents, James Dolan, >was "grossly negligent" and acted with "reckless disregard" for the law, >and that he made three false statements in a sworn declaration. So why is James Dolan still working for the IRS? Why is he not under enditement for perjury? Oh I forgot Federal Agents are "just a group of humans" so I guess we shouldn't expect the laws of the land to apply to them. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBM5bMt49Co1n+aLhhAQGn0wQAuG0n4ppXx5QdtNQrrcB4drcbkbDkpcdV 0L28z5zWbbidfz2Mq8wS2HLG01NLPd/6NFDF8EYpezBfpGv9O3SIm3WvhbzhvJOP jEVGUZdNVM+RA3gAMzrBMoiEiIrFfaFO/3615dSHPLpa3NWmbf+QDnVRXFIO1Rxp kFttB1pjRjM= =Vx80 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Interesting article.
by Peter Trei 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Full story at http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,11249,00.html?latest Leaders want crypto rules lifted. By Reuters June 5, 1997, 7 a.m. PT WASHINGTON--Computer industry captains called on President Clinton yesterday to drop efforts to regulate data-encryption technologies, a move the FBI warned would cripple law enforcement and leave the country more vulnerable to terrorism. In an open letter to Clinton, Bill Gates, chairman and chief executive officer of Microsoft, and 12 other industry titans said U.S. competitiveness in electronic commerce was at stake in the debate. ---------------- Peter Trei

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RE: McVeigh? Nimrods.....
by Bill Frantz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 3:50 PM -0700 6/4/97, Paul Bradley wrote: >> Like my fellow Santa Clara County Resident Bill Frantz said : >> >> For cypherpunks this comes down to: Make code, not bombs. > >True, code will lead to further liberation in the virtual communities, >but bombs are an effective device for ending the corrupt tyrannical >government that rules us. It is my contention that, in the present circumstances, bombs are not effective devices for ending the corrupt tyrannical government which rules us. They are much more likely to make enemies for "our cause" than they are to physically stop the government. Does the phrase, "Bomb throwing anarchist" give you the feeling of hero, or of villain? Most people will answer villain, and killing people is not likely to change their minds. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | The Internet was designed | Periwinkle -- Consulting (408)356-8506 | to protect the free world | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | from hostile governments. | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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(Fwd) RE: McVeigh? Nimrods.....
by Peter Nicol - VRL / BroomStick Productions 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 3:50 PM -0700 6/4/97, Paul Bradley wrote: >> Like my fellow Santa Clara County Resident Bill Frantz said : >> >> For cypherpunks this comes down to: Make code, not bombs. > >True, code will lead to further liberation in the virtual communities, >but bombs are an effective device for ending the corrupt tyrannical >government that rules us. It is my contention that, in the present circumstances, bombs are not effective devices for ending the corrupt tyrannical government which rules us. They are much more likely to make enemies for "our cause" than they are to physically stop the government. Does the phrase, "Bomb throwing anarchist" give you the feeling of hero, or of villain? Most people will answer villain, and killing people is not likely to change their minds. Anyone head of Non-Violent Action (NVA) ? Seems to me writing and disseminating Code is a pretty effective form of NVA Peter Nicol Global Media Magnet nicol(a)iap.net.au 019 111 943 "Nonlinear models differ form linear ones in a number of ways. Rather than trying to figure out all the chains of causality, the modeler looks for nodes where feedback loops join and tries to capture as many of the important loops as possible in the system's "picture." Rather than shaping the model to make a forecast about future events or to exercise some central control, the nonlinear modeller is content to perturb the model, trying out different variations in order to learn about the system's critical points and its homeostasis (resitance to change). The modeler is not seeking to control the complex system by quantifying it and mastering its causality; she wants to increase her "intuitions" about how the system works so she can interact with it more harmoniously."

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Body Bunker Usage
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We offer excerpts from the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center "Catalog of Training Programs FY 1997-98": Financial Fraud Institute The FFI takes the proactive role of arming the student with specialty skills and techniques to develop solid prosecutable cases in a range of crimes. Included are crimes involving government contracts, procurement fraud, illegal tax shelters, complex financial transactions supporting terrorism and criminal conspiracies, asset removal/seizures, money laundering activities involving drug smuggling organizations and other illegal enterprises, insurance frauds, electronic funds transfer fraud, and employee embezzlement. Also addressed in training are technical crimes involving computers and networks such as unauthorized access to government data systems and complex fraud cases using or involving computer systems. Training programs: Computer Evidence Analysis Criminal Investigations in an Automated Environment Financial Crimes Investigations Financial Forensics Techniques International Banking and Money Laundering International Financial Fraud Microcomputers for Investigators Money Laundering and Asset Forfeiture Seized Computer and Evidence Recovery Specialist Telecommunications Fraud White Collar Crime Windows Applications for Investigations http://jya.com/ffi.htm (34K) ----- Security Specialties Division The design, development, and conduct of courses relating to antiterrorism, physical security, and officer safety and survival is the prime mission of the Security Specialties Division (SSD). Courses include; Bombs and Explosives, Personal Protection, First Response, Handling Sensitive/ Classified Information, Criminal Information/Intelligence, Officer Safety and Survival, Physical Security, Surviving Hostage Situations, and Weapons/Explosive Detection. Training programs: Advanced Physical Security Antiterrorism Contingency Planning Antiterrorism Management Criminal Intelligence Analyst Crisis Management First Response Officer Safety and Survival Physical Security Managers Protective Security Operations Seaport Security/Antiterrorism http://jya.com/ssd.htm (22K) ----- The former addresses, among others, "encryption/decryption, disguised data, data hidden by programming techniques, hackers and phreakers." The latter addresses, among others, "left-wing terrorism, right-wing terrorism, animal rights and environmental extremists, assassinations and body bunker usage."

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Re: Password pirates plunder XXX sites, from The Netly News
by Phillip M. Hallam-Baker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Although you can never completely eliminate it, technological fixes to do >velocity checking, source IP address profiling, etc., seem so obvious I >just don't see how this can be any sort of insurmountable problem... Agreed but see bellow >It should have been obvious from the start that you would have a lot more >people trying to steal service from a porn site than from, say, a Disney >site. I think the problem is that a large number of the people who run porn sites are neither technically sophisticated nor well funded. I suspect that many do not know how to write a program and can't afford hiring someone to do it for them. Its a business where there are low barriers to entry and there are a very large number of competitors. One way of discouraging new entrants is to claim that there are major technical problems... Phill

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"Clinton has done a great deal for Intel"--more trolling
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 1:03 AM -0700 6/5/97, Kent Crispin wrote: >Clinton has a *very* successful career as a politician, and has done >a great deal for Intel, in that role. And he is a great family man ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >who also gets along well with a host of people. Another absurdity. Clinton is the President. There is _nothing_ of any significance Intel has ever sought from the government. Except for the government to get off its back. When I was there the government was in fact very frustrated with Intel for not entering the "mil-spec" market in any serious way. The government wanted to buy 8080s, 8086s, etc., and we said, "Fine, send us an order. We'll even charge you $500 more per chip if you want us to shake them around at a lot of Gs, cook 'em in a pressure pot, and then stamp them "MIL-SPEC." We refused government contracts. I did some volunteer work (a few days) for them on directed energy weapons, some work for DARPA and the Naval Research Lab, but there was no charge for this, and certainly no "help" for Intel from the then-President. Intel also was a reluctant participant in the g-job labs, including the MCC in Austin (never a real member), and only in the last few years has it bowed to the inevitable by undertaking some joint efforts with the labs it has so heavily been taxed for. To call this "help from Clinton" is absurd. (By the way, Andy Grove and Gordon Moore were supporters of Bush in '92 and of Dole in '96. They actively opposed the "Clinton-friendly lobby" in the Valley, the John Sculleys and whatnot who hobnobbed with Clinton. Clinton I'm sure does not see Intel as his ally in any way.) More trolling from Crispin. Why am I not surprised? ---Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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