December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Netscape-128 not at Replay.com
by Mike 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It seems that the US versions of Netscape have been removed from ftp.replay.com. Did Netscape comment on the software being available, or what happened? Mike.

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Rape, death and XS4ALL
by Paul Bradley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > The only "nice people" are dangerous anarchists bent on destroying > > governments and buggering poloticians to death. (last part a personal > > preference of course, the author is totally straight but would > > nonetheless be distinctly amused to see any government official > > butt-raped to death) > > I, personally, would have to use a dildo. Even if I were queer, > I wouldn't get it up for a politician or a Cabal supporter. This I can fully understand. > > > "The Internet Watch Foundation forces the provider to remove the > > > illegal content," he added. "This is a fundamentally different approach > > > to responsibilities on the Internet. We think the author of the > > > information is responsible for his own actions, not the provider." > > I hope the IRA blows up these Internet Watch motherfuckers. If I don`t get there first... > Is this Blair guy any saner than the tory bastards? Calling any democratic polotician, especially in the UK, sane, is a big mistake. However, if we may rephrase and ask if he is any less deranged we can safely answer "no". I heard a wonderful comment on the cryptography@c2 list earlier that Jack Straw (the new Labour home secretary, who is in charge of law and order) may be defined as the only person for whom anal sex with michael howard (his predecessor) counts as masturbation. They both even look deranged (Michael Howard looked rather like a serial killer and jack straw looks like a church reject). I don`t know about crypto policy, Labour are supposed to be opposed to mandatory GAK but this is of course a small issue when put in perspective. The new labour administration are a group of anti-drugs, anti-"crime" misfits who I hope go the same way as the previous leader of the labour party, John Smith, who died of a heart attack. Just to give you some overview of the fuck ups we now have governing the UK I present a list of proposals Tony Blair and his motley crew have made in the last year: Mandatory minimum sentencing for repeat offenders regardless of the opinion of the judge. State set curfews for all children under 16 regardless of their parents wishes. Parents to be held responsible for the crimes of their children if the children repeat offend. Several vague allusions towards internet censorship schemes or mandatory web page rating using PICS. Minimum wage for full time employees, regardless of the empolyees skills or the wishes of the employer. Further action to prevent "bias" and "discrimination" in the workplace, eg. "Employ this unskilled bone idle coon and we`ll lower your corporation tax 2%" Further plans for yet more CCTV cameras in public places. Mandatory ID cards for citizens (This one sounds like a joke, believe me it is not). A ban on all handguns even when registered (currently all pistols above .22 are banned and all guns have to be registered in a process whereby if the applicant for a certificate has any history of political dissention or crime (eg. Smoking a joint, the ultimate sin against society) the certificate will be refused. Yet more spending on welfare to support the pieces of shit in the gutter I pass every day. > > And if he chooses not to remove the content you happen to find offensive? > > If you truly believed in the rights of the author and publisher of the > > information you would think about it before sending in your own > > particular brand of thugs to "crush the mutiny". > > Perhaps we should further expose XS4ALL's hypocricy by renting from the > web space and putting up some pages they won't like. I think this is an excellent idea, I`ll call or mail them in a few days to find out their pricing structure. > > > Yet when violation of the law is flagrant, XS4ALL doesn't hesitate to > > > comply, as it did a few weeks ago when it shut down a customer's home > > > page called Neuroroom, which sold marijuana and other soft drugs in > > > Holland and abroad. > > > > Sometimes one really wonders why we bother to set up mirrors to allow > > freedom of information to users, when the owners of these servers, > > supposedly in favour of free speech, do not even have the strength of > > character or conviction to decide for themselves what they will allow on > > their servers rather than bending over for the long cock of the law... > > The ISP is not a court to decide that a web page offering MJ for > sale is "illegal". Absolutely, besides which, even though I believe in the right of people to be as bigotted and statist as they see fit, there are only so many causes we can support and coming in on the side of XS4ALL knowing their record seems ill advised to me. If they truly deserved our support they would retain the pages whether they were legal or not. > > > "Basically any project we like gets free resources from XS4ALL," > > > Rodriquez commented. > > > > And anyone who guarantees to publicly lick the boots of the benevolent > > owners in thanks for their support gets as much free space as they like? > > > > Of course I believe in the right to free expression of anyone and if > > these thugs choose not to allow material they don`t like on their servers > > they have every right to remove it. I just don`t see that setting up > > mirrors to defeat blocks on sites that refuse to carry certain content is > > of any value in the fight for free speech. Sure, create a mirror of > > Radikal, but giving any credit or attribution to XS4ALL seems to be a > > poor choice. > > My understanding is that Radikal is a harmless, toothless liberal rag > that the Germans had no grounds for censoring in the first place. > Mirroring it is no big deal. How about mirroring the MJ page that > the bastards at XS4ALL censored? I actually went to the page once, nearly brought some bud but as I recall they didn`t have an SSL link so I chose not to transmit my CCN. I don`t have a copy, but if XS4ALL have any balls at all they will send us a copy. I`ll get onto them about this later. > Actually, I don't think mirroring is a good technology either. > The "eternal server" posted a few days ago seems VERY VERY promising, > I'm very exited about this technology - many many thanks. No, it isn`t really but was, for all intents and purposes, the best we had. I haven`t yet seen the eternal server idea but I`ll trawl the archives for it. Paul "Can`t really be bothered to re-do his .sig file yet" Bradley

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(1048129di) Questions, Round Thirteen, The Dilbert Trivia Game
by dogbert＠yoyo.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: SAFE
by Lee Tien 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here's what Prof. Froomkin said about SAFE on another list: >What I want to know about SAFE is this: > >1. Will it in effect federalize huge chunks of state criminal law once >crypto is ubiquitous in telephones, email, garage-door openers etc.? >Every state crime will now have a federal component... > >2. Will the federal crypto-use-in-furtherance-of-a-state-crime be a >separate predicate offense for civil (and criminal?) RICO? > >3. What will the five year term for this offense do to the >plea-bargaining dynamic in every garden variety crime. > >Recall my hypothesis: crypto will be seamless and ubiquitous in N years, >where N is not large. Especially if SAFE passes and export controls are >removed. > >On balance, I oppose SAFE. It's not worth it. [I wonder: how does SAFE interact with IPSEC and arrangements like S/WAN? This is not, I think, merely the "willful furtherance" provision. The "law enforcement" access provision may be ambiguous for keys that are not "private"; my understanding of IPSEC is that the key is in the possession of the machine and not the user. I'm unclear whether users have 4th A. standing to challenge law enforcement access to such keys; there are lots of 4th A cases where a person has no privacy interest in information because it's been disclosed to another person, or is in another person's control. Of course, I probably don't understand how IPSEC works, so corrections are welcomed.] Lee

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My editorial in Oregonian newspaper published today.
by jimbell＠pacifier.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The following editorial appears in the Tuesday, May 6 issue of the (Portland) Oregonian newspaper, on the editorial page. Fishing Expedition Swims Against Tide According to the maxim, if you invent a better mouse-trap the world will beat a path to your door. Maybe the truth is that, instead, you'll get assaulted by angry cats who are afraid of losing their jobs. Suppose the government discovered a method to make itself obsolete. Or suppose the military learned how to make us all even more secure, for a thousandth as much defense spending. We'd never hear about it because they'd be out of a job, and job security, not national security, is their highest priority. Two years ago I had a revolutionary idea. I was tired of hearing the usual stories about how much harder society's problems have gotten in the last few decades. It's not that the problems are harder, it's just that large constituencies have been built which depend on these "problems" for their income. For example, when the Cold War ended, there was no military reason we couldn't have reduced our military budget by a factor of two or three. "But no!," said the politicians, let's continue buying those expensive Stealth bombers, submarines, tilt-wing airplanes, and other toys. We weren't afraid of getting attacked, the spending continued because of the threat of unemployment on the part of the defense-industry workers. Legalize drugs and turn a vast legal problem into a far cheaper and more manageable health problem? No, because with 70% or more of the prison population there due to drug laws, you'd have to fire most of the jailers, the prosecutors, the police, the judges, and the lawyers, all of whom have come to depend on the involuntary "generosity" of the taxpayer. Two years ago I realized that the whole corrupt system could be stopped. It would be necessary to not only halt pork-barrel politics at all levels, but also to provide a very few necessary services for people, such as defense and justice, although financed inexpensively and voluntarily. You'd have to shut down all militaries and governments, simultaneously, all around the world, while at the same time protecting our security. Impossible? In the summer of 1995 I began to write an essay, half-jokingly titled "Assassination Politics". It occurred to me that if people could defend themselves by anonymously donating money to anonymous people who act to protect us, you wouldn't need militaries or governments anymore. Nuclear bombs would be obsolete, and in fact they will be hopelessly dangerous to anyone who owns them, because the rest of us will be able to donate money to ensure their owners have no choice but to dismantle them. Conventional militaries will be useless, because threats to people's security will be dealt with far more cheaply by large numbers of tiny individual contributions buying the part-time services of a few semi-professional trouble-shooters. Murderous dictators of the past and present, such as Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, Khadafi, Idi Amin, and so many others simply couldn't operate in such a world, because they (and their replacements, if anyone dared follow them) could be removed for the collective pocket change of a few million angry citizens. There'd be no conventional wars, because anyone who would make war would be a threat not only to his enemy, but also to anyone on "his" side who would be forced to help pay for that war, or even third parties who wouldn't want to see aggression win, for fear they'd be the next target. There would be no draft, because forcing someone else to fight for you makes YOU his enemy, as well: On the other hand, if your cause is just, he will contribute voluntarily, just as you do, to see the bad guy stopped. There would be little crime, because crime will be treated as an attack, and people will be able to donate money to find and stop the criminals. But unlike today, there will be no large constituency (police, jailers, judges, prosecutors, lawyers) who have a vested interest in keeping the crime rate high, thus terrorizing the public into supporting "anti-crime spending" which really just lines their pockets. I've been openly debating the idea on the Internet since then with anyone who will listen. My essay surprises many and shocks more than a few, but I am pleased that such a truly revolutionary concept has been so well received. Even the Columbian newspaper (www.columbian.com) has decided to add a pointer to the essay. The only "threat" in the essay is to the jobs of the people who have been parasites on the rest of us for decades, as well as to the future of tyrannies around the world. But that's why, on April 1, twenty Federal agents burst in and took my computer, told the news media I was "armed and dangerous," and began engaging in a fishing expedition including harassing people simply for knowing me. (No arrest or charges so far.) They may claim that they were looking for something else, but what they are really, desperately hoping to find is...job security. If I'm right, they have none. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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My editorial in Oregonian newspaper published today.
by jimbell＠pacifier.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

My editorial appeared in the Tuesday, May 6 issue of the (Portland) Oregonian newspaper, on the editorial page. Fishing Expedition Swims Against Tide According to the maxim, if you invent a better mouse-trap the world will beat a path to your door. Maybe the truth is that, instead, you'll get assaulted by angry cats who are afraid of losing their jobs. Suppose the government discovered a method to make itself obsolete. Or suppose the military learned how to make us all even more secure, for a thousandth as much defense spending. We'd never hear about it because they'd be out of a job, and job security, not national security, is their highest priority. Two years ago I had a revolutionary idea. I was tired of hearing the usual stories about how much harder society's problems have gotten in the last few decades. It's not that the problems are harder, it's just that large constituencies have been built which depend on these "problems" for their income. For example, when the Cold War ended, there was no military reason we couldn't have reduced our military budget by a factor of two or three. "But no!," said the politicians, let's continue buying those expensive Stealth bombers, submarines, tilt-wing airplanes, and other toys. We weren't afraid of getting attacked, the spending continued because of the threat of unemployment on the part of the defense-industry workers. Legalize drugs and turn a vast legal problem into a far cheaper and more manageable health problem? No, because with 70% or more of the prison population there due to drug laws, you'd have to fire most of the jailers, the prosecutors, the police, the judges, and the lawyers, all of whom have come to depend on the involuntary "generosity" of the taxpayer. Two years ago I realized that the whole corrupt system could be stopped. It would be necessary to not only halt pork-barrel politics at all levels, but also to provide a very few necessary services for people, such as defense and justice, although financed inexpensively and voluntarily. You'd have to shut down all militaries and governments, simultaneously, all around the world, while at the same time protecting our security. Impossible? In the summer of 1995 I began to write an essay, half-jokingly titled "Assassination Politics". It occurred to me that if people could defend themselves by anonymously donating money to anonymous people who act to protect us, you wouldn't need militaries or governments anymore. Nuclear bombs would be obsolete, and in fact they will be hopelessly dangerous to anyone who owns them, because the rest of us will be able to donate money to ensure their owners have no choice but to dismantle them. Conventional militaries will be useless, because threats to people's security will be dealt with far more cheaply by large numbers of tiny individual contributions buying the part-time services of a few semi-professional trouble-shooters. Murderous dictators of the past and present, such as Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, Khadafi, Idi Amin, and so many others simply couldn't operate in such a world, because they (and their replacements, if anyone dared follow them) could be removed for the collective pocket change of a few million angry citizens. There'd be no conventional wars, because anyone who would make war would be a threat not only to his enemy, but also to anyone on "his" side who would be forced to help pay for that war, or even third parties who wouldn't want to see aggression win, for fear they'd be the next target. There would be no draft, because forcing someone else to fight for you makes YOU his enemy, as well: On the other hand, if your cause is just, he will contribute voluntarily, just as you do, to see the bad guy stopped. There would be little crime, because crime will be treated as an attack, and people will be able to donate money to find and stop the criminals. But unlike today, there will be no large constituency (police, jailers, judges, prosecutors, lawyers) who have a vested interest in keeping the crime rate high, thus terrorizing the public into supporting "anti-crime spending" which really just lines their pockets. I've been openly debating the idea on the Internet since then with anyone who will listen. My essay surprises many and shocks more than a few, but I am pleased that such a truly revolutionary concept has been so well received. Even the Columbian newspaper (www.columbian.com) has decided to add a pointer to the essay. The only "threat" in the essay is to the jobs of the people who have been parasites on the rest of us for decades, as well as to the future of tyrannies around the world. But that's why, on April 1, twenty Federal agents burst in and took my computer, told the news media I was "armed and dangerous," and began engaging in a fishing expedition including harassing people simply for knowing me. (No arrest or charges so far.) They may claim that they were looking for something else, but what they are really, desperately hoping to find is...job security. If I'm right, they have none. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: The Executive State
by geeman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anyone doubting that the center of gravity of world power is shifting would do well to ponder: 100 of the world's top CEO's are going to Bill Gates' house to hear him expound on what the future will look like. IF that doesn't make you nervous nothing will. It's at least as nervewracking as anything Clinton admin. might do. At 07:26 PM 5/6/97 -0400, Robert Hettinga wrote: > >--- begin forwarded text > > >Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 10:46:19 -0700 >From: thomasu(a)mail.auburn.edu >To: misesmail(a)colossus.net >Subject: The Executive State >Sender: owner-misesmail(a)colossus.net >Precedence: Bulk > >The Executive State: >The U.S. Presidency vs. American Liberty > > When President Clinton asked golfer Tiger Woods to join him at an official >propaganda event, and even offered to send Air Force One, Tiger answered as >every freedom-loving American should: he had something better to do. He was >going on a vacation with some college chums. > > Tiger has his priorities straight, but his turndown is another indication >that the presidency is shrinking as an institution. It still commands, but >no longer compels, our undying (or dying) obedience, no matter how many >monuments are erected to despots on the Washington Mall. This trend is all >to the good. > > The legacy of presidential autocracy from the earliest days of the >republic to the present survives in the form of the executive state. But >where can you go in the library to find the truth about the havoc U.S. >presidents have wrecked on the American promise of freedom? Virtually >nowhere. The official history of the presidency reads like the Lives of the >Saints. > > The Mises Institute intends to do something about this. In the Fall of >1998, we're holding a major academic conference on the American presidency. >Our purpose is to debunk the conventional view that the more power he's >usurped, the better off the American people are. > > All the presidents qualify for study, but we are especially interested in >the checkered careers and dictates of Polk, Lincoln, McKinley, Roosevelt I, >Wilson, Roosevelt II, Truman, Johnson, Nixon, and Reagan. > > If you're a scholar and would like to participate with a paper on some >aspect of a presidential power grab (or one of those few occasions when a >president did some good) let us know. An abstract is all that's necessary >to be considered now. > >The Ludwig von Mises Institute >Auburn, Alabama 36849-5301 >334-844-2500; fax: 334-844-2583 > >--- end forwarded text > > > >----------------- >Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox >e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA >Lesley Stahl: "You mean *anyone* can set up a web site and compete > with the New York Times?" >Andrew Kantor: "Yes." Stahl: "Isn't that dangerous?" >The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ > > > > >

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17 Dec '03

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Duplicate checking: Ignore
by Paul Bradley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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AWK_war
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Wash Post reports today on a NSA intercept of a "secure communication" between two Israeli spooks discussing a top US official spying for Israel. The FBI opened an investigation in January. Israel denies the claim. Crypto is not mentioned, only that the Hebrew conversation was "awkwardly" translated. The intercept was withdrawn after 12 hours from the distribution list due to FBI's dismay at its spread. ------- AWK_war

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