December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

test 10:10 am PDT ignore cp@toad
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

# Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)

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test cp@algebra.com 10:10a pdt ignore
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

# Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)

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Printers are munitions?
by Sidney R. Phillips 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Last Sunday on The Learning Channel there was a somewhat silly program on information warfare. One thing which caught my attention however, was a claim by Win Schwartau (of inforwar fame) that NSA had placed narrow band transmitters in printers which wound up in air defense sites in Iraq. Subsequently the transmissions were used for targeting durring the gulf war. Has anyone heard of a separate source for this?

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Re: [STEGO] Secure envelopes
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim C[ocksucker] May carries a turd in his wallet for identification purposes. _@_ / \ | o o | -U|--U--|U-- Tim C[ocksucker] May

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Re: War & InfoWar
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sun, 11 May 1997, Paul Bradley wrote: >> > How many government employees quit in outrage, stating that > > they would not take part in such atrocities? How many took a > > vocal moral stand against their superiors, or exposed the > > government duplicity involved in the police action? > > They are all whores, so I suggest we fuck them like whores. > No thanks, you have to pay for whores. Let's not give them any more business. Besides, who knows what VD government whores carry. AP is better. FP (Fucking Politicians) is what they do best to each other. WhoreMonger.

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RE: RSA, PGP IN LEGAL FLAP OVER ENCRYPTION TECHNOLOGY
by jimbell＠pacifier.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:45 5/12/97 -0700, Chris DiBona wrote: >And keep in mind , I don't begrudge RSA thier right to make money off thier intellectual property, However, I've been waiting many years for some patent-law-knowledgeable person to explain why mathematics, which was widely seen as being absolutely unpatentable prior to the invention of public-key cryptography, suddenly became patentable just in time for RSA, etc. Until I hear such an explanation, I _DO_ begrudge RSA and others that "right." Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: whine politics again
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Earlier, paul said: >Also, on a slightly more practical point, as I have said, if one was to >bomb any major commercial or government building the chances of killing a >truly innocent person are fairly small anyway. What the ultimate result here should be we all demand our legislators pass a law prohibiting the establishment of daycare centers, schools, hospitals or nursing homes within 1000 ft of government centers, army bases, or any federal offices. They could call it the "No Human Shielding law." What legislator would dare complain that the federal government not use his or her constituents children to shield ATF, FBI or other TLA agents? Hey, it's "For the children", right?

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Re: [STEGO] Secure envelopes
by The Spectre 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: `careerpunks'
by Hal Finney 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Adam Back, <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk>, writes: > In trying to figure out which lists were working, I noticed that there > are now many more people on coderpunks and cryptography than there are > on cypherpunks... take a look at these figures: > > 713 cryptography(a)c2.net > 713 coderpunks(a)toad.com > 245 cypherpunks(a)algebra.com + cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net - duplicates Coderpunks has not been very active, I think (although I don't always notice which messages come from which lists). Perry Metzger's moderated cryptography(a)c2.net has had some good discussions lately, including contributions from such people as Carl Ellison and Matt Blaze. There was an interesting proposal from James Donald for a possible approach to what they are calling CACK, "Corporate Access to Corporate Keys", without facilitating GAK, "Government Access to Keys". The cypherpunks list continues to have the edge in political commentary and bomb-making instructions. :-) Hal

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Public Key Break Paper
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In early April we posted a message which referred to William H. Payne's paper "Public Key Cryptography is Easy to Break." Mr. Payne has provided the 1990 5-page draft paper along with other documents, which we've added to the file at: http://jya.com/snlhit.htm The paper is part of several attachments supporting Mr. Payne's charge against Sandia National Laboratory. Other documents in the file help explain why the paper is sensitive to SNL and perhaps to NSA.

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