December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: http://www.clintongore96.com/ ...
by Jim Ray 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: dsmith(a)prairienet.org, cypherpunks(a)toad.com, jimg(a)mentat.com Date: Fri Oct 25 18:02:44 1996 I was mistaken, and I now think it's a spoof, not a hack, but regardless it's a good anti-Clinton site, although still the best IMO is: http://www.realchange.org/index.htm Real People For Real Change, a non-affiliated, independent political action committee with nothing nice to say about *anyone*. ^^^^^^^ [I played a small part in convincing them to say bad things about Browne(!) on the theory that bad press is better than no press at all.] Following notes on a Browne-campaign staff -- National Party staff conflict-of-interest, the Real Changers say: "This being the Libertarians, other people argued that the other campaigns should have hired them, too!" To know us is to love us, especially if you are the highest bidder. JMR -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMnE5DW1lp8bpvW01AQFo3AP+KwFdFegX73+2NIyy8l1CseTMb7bH03JN L1r3/waMvrwI3NDUyVoOpHT4o5rQomnQwzbprb8L1yOaM2hv/y2MM6zs5HTtdwpG z6y/Ku9JxWGE4xAw7g2MyYbtBhppNrJxBmwI48ruZk2OPy7tpGqCXWzmVv5QkZ+U Rd9mXSIIeOk= =llKb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: slander and call for lawyers. :)
by Jim Ray 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Fri Oct 25 20:29:30 1996 [I sent a version of this note privately to Ray, Sandy, and Unicorn, and now I've decided to send it publicly to the list. Hi Dmitri, you've finally done it.] Uni wrote: > If you don't watch it I'll have a pair of my staff represent him free of > charge. I hereby transfer my pledge of a shipment of guava pastries (that was me) from Sandy's meeting to Black Unicorn's lawyers if he chooses to go ahead with this, since the "let's Meet Dmitri" meeting seems to be off anyway. ;) JMR -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMnFbcm1lp8bpvW01AQEaaAQAj8xsx5RZv56xKKEZhuthlvf9gNZANE+L f82rFV7FRj3BBJyo2phbiYlU8+dXMKIEHv2w5lhqzS2PB9hgwVcap+iOVcd0EqB6 KDOx+ez86gjYqv+Q7bcxxI+cB7iXq/01R+1JUeSTSFnrw6+Vnts8e02DHaTnGxMz qPKFUupyYd4= =u3SP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: NSA Report: Anyone seen this?
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thanks to RF for this pointer for getting the NSA report. We'll get a copy next week and put it on our Web page: http://www.ffhsj.com/bancmail/21starch/961017.htm 21st Century Banking Alert No. 96-10-17 October 17, 1996 National Security Agency Report Raises Systemic Security Issues Related to Anonymous Electronic Money [Snip report summary] If you would like a copy of the report, please contact us at: 21stCen(a)ffhsj.com or (202) 639-7200. Thomas P. Vartanian Robert H. Ledig David L. Ansell Washington, D.C. Visit the 21st Century Banking Alert Page on the World Wide Web at http://www.ffhsj.com/bancmail/bancpage.htm

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You are now subscribed to the COOL_TRAVELS list
by L-Soft list server at EDS (1.8b) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sat, 26 Oct 1996 02:03:21 Your subscription to Continental Online (COOL) Travel Specials has been confirmed. Please keep this E-mail as it contains important infomation about the list you've joined. There are two distinct e-mail addresses that you should be aware of. 1. listserv address: LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM. 2. mailing list address: COOL_TRAVELS(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM. The first address: LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM: This is a non-human, administrative, automatic-reply address. This address works similar to a telephone voice response system. You dial a specific number to connect to the voice response system, enter the command/option to complete a specific task. There is not an option to chat with the voice response system. Similarly, the address above does not recognize anything but pre-defined commands. When you send E-mail to LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM, with a command in the message body, LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM will reply to you with a pre-defined response to your command. Commands are not case sensitive, and the "subject:" field does not matter. Here are some useful commands. subscribe cool_travels firstname lastname (To subscribe to the mailing list cool_travels or overwrite your existing account with new information) unsubscribe cool_travels (To unsubscribe the cool_travels list) For security reasons, when you unsubscribe/signoff the list will ask you for a confirmation. When you receive the confirmation, use your mailer's "reply" feature and type OK, and nothing else, in the reply message. This is meant to verify that you really do want to be removed from the list. LISTSERV will notify you once the operation is successful. Please *DO NOT* include the original confirmation message in your OK reply. Again, send commands only to LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM. The second important address is: COOL_TRAVELS(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM: This is the mailing list that will bring you discounts and promotions from Continental Airlines. This is a one-way, announce-only mailing list. It does not accept mail postings from the subscribers. Please do *NOT* reply to the messages sent to you from this mailing list. If you need any assistance, please send an E-mail to: WEBMASTER(a)MAIL1.FLYCONTINENTAL.COM with COOL_TRAVELS in the "subject:" field. We will be happy to assist you.

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Welcome to Continental Airlines COOL_TRAVELS
by L-Soft list server at EDS (1.8b) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thank you for subscribing to COOL (Continental On-line) Travel Specials. With your subscription you should receive a weekly E-mail featuring Continental Airlines specials and promotions. This is a post only list. That means the list does not accept new or reply mail. Please do not send mail to the list. All postings from subscribers will be automatically discarded. Please refer to your confirmation mail for information on leaving the list and contacting the webmaster. We plan to send notices out on Wednesdays. However, we cannot guarantee delivery on a specific day due to any unforseen Internet problems, which we have no control over. Thanks again for subscribing to COOL Travel Specials from Continental Airlines.

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Your message to COOL_TRAVELS-request@LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM
by L-Soft list server at EDS (1.8b) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sat, 26 Oct 1996 03:52:44 Your message to COOL_TRAVELS-request(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM has been forwarded to the "list owners" (the people who manage the COOL_TRAVELS list). If you wanted to reach a human being, you used the correct procedure and you can ignore the remainder of this message. If you were trying to send a command for the computer to execute, please read on. The COOL_TRAVELS list is managed by a LISTSERV server. LISTSERV commands should always be sent to the "LISTSERV" address, ie LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM. LISTSERV never tries to process messages sent to the COOL_TRAVELS-request address; it simply forwards them to a human being, and acknowledges receipt with the present message. The "listname-request" convention originated on the Internet a long time ago. At the time, lists were always managed manually, and this address was defined as an alias for the person(s) in charge of the mailing list. You would write to the "listname-request" address to ask for information about the list, ask to be added to the list, make suggestions about the contents and policy, etc. Because this address was always a human being, people knew and expected to be talking to a human being, not to a computer. Unfortunately, some recent list management packages screen incoming messages to the "listname-request" address and attempt to determine whether they are requests to join or leave the list. They look for words such as "subscribe", "add", "leave", "off", and so on. If they decide your message is a request to join or leave the list, they update the list automatically; otherwise, they forward the message to the list owners. Naturally, this means that if you write to the list owners about someone else's unsuccessful attempts to leave the list, you stand good chances of being automatically removed from the list, whereas the list owners will never receive your message. No one really benefits from this. There is no reliable mechanism to contact a human being for assistance, and you can never be sure whether your request will be interpreted as a command or as a message to the list owners. This is why LISTSERV uses two separate addresses, one for the people in charge of the list and one for the computer that runs it. This way you always know what will happen, especially if you are writing in a language other than English. In any case, if your message was a LISTSERV command, you should now resend it to LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM. The list owners know that you have received this message and may assume that you will resend the command on your own. You will find instructions for the most common administrative requests below. ********************* * TO LEAVE THE LIST * ********************* Write to LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM and, in the text of your message (not the subject line), write: SIGNOFF COOL_TRAVELS ******************** * TO JOIN THE LIST * ******************** Write to LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM and, in the text of your message (not the subject line), write: SUBSCRIBE COOL_TRAVELS ************************ * FOR MORE INFORMATION * ************************ Write to LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM and, in the text of your message (not the subject line), write: "HELP" or "INFO" (without the quotes). HELP will give you a short help message and INFO a list of the documents you can order.

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Command confirmation request (203E30)
by L-Soft list server at EDS (1.8b) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Your command: SIGNOFF COOL_TRAVELS has been received. For security reasons, you are now required to reply to this message, as explained below, to confirm the execution of your command. If you have problems with this procedure, you can contact the list owner directly (COOL_TRAVELS-request(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM) and ask to be manually removed from the list. To confirm the execution of your command, simply reply to the present message and type "ok" (without the quotes) as the text of your message. Just the word "ok" - do not retype the command. This procedure will work with any mail program that fully conforms to the Internet standards for electronic mail. If you receive an error message, try sending a new message to LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM (without using the "reply" function - this is very important) and type "ok 203E30" as the text of your message. Finally, your command will be cancelled automatically if you do not confirm it within 48h. After that time, you must start over and resend the command to get a new confirmation code. If you change your mind and decide that you do NOT want to confirm the command, simply discard the present message and let the command expire on its own.

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Re: http://www.clintongore96.com/ is hacked.
by stewarts＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:42 PM 10/25/96 -0700, Declan McCullagh <declan(a)eff.org> wrote: >It's a parody site. >www.cg96.org is the real one. That and www.clintongore.org are run by the Committee To Re-Elect the President, at 2100 M St. NW, Washington DC. But there are at least four CLINTONGORE#-DOM entries in whois, plus some CG4-DOM and CG5-DOM. Some are less official than others :-) # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk Imagine if three million people voted for somebody they _knew_, and the politicians had to count them all.

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Re: Recruiting machines for DES key recovery
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> There are thousands of Amigas out there, and they're powerful enough > to do video production on... a C port with assembler optimizations > shouldn't be more painful than one for a PC or Mac. Why not put some > of them to use (especially if they're unused) key cracking? > > [Disclaimer: I have no first hand experience with programming Amigas > though... would they be too slow?] I can`t do the port myself unless the PC code is going to be in C as I don`t write amiga assembler anymore (not for about 2 years). As for the speed I have an A4000/030 here which is about equivalent to a 486 dx 33 or similar and the average amiga, an A1200 is about the same as a 486 sx 25 I really don`t think a port is worth doing though because there are few amiga owners who use the internet extensively because the TCP/IP stack (amitcp) for the amiga is a load of crap. Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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Re: I'm Confused about Algorithm Patents in Canada
by Murray Hayes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:01:05 +0200, Gary Howland wrote: >janke(a)unixg.ubc.ca wrote: >> >> I have a library of crypto goodies that I would like to release, >> but am kinda stuck on the copyright: I read in a very new book that [snip] > > >Yes, this certainly seems to be a grey area. For instance, the MD of >Digicash said recently that they have a worldwide patent on blinding, [snip] > "European patents shall be granted for any inventions which are > susceptible of industrial applications, which are new and which > involve an inventive step." > > The EPC does not define what is meant by inventions, but Article > 52(2) lists subject-matter and activities "which shall not be > regarded as inventions" within the meaning of Article 52(1), in > particular: > > - discoveries, scientific theories and mathematical methods > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > - aesthetic creations > - schemes, rules and methods for performing mental acts, playing >games > or doing business, and programs for computers > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > - presentations of information > >I no nothing of patent law, but this certainly does seem to imply that >algorithms themselves cannot be patented in Europe. Any European patent >experts out there? > Patents are different from copywrites. In Canada there are specific guidelines pertaining to what can and cannot be patented. These guide lines are avalible from the government (look in the blue pages). Algorithims, circut designs, etc, etc (what about papers about them?) are specifically excluded from copywrite laws in all countries that adhere to the international copywrite treaty (or what ever). Algorithms come under intelectual property protection but I have no idea what laws govern that. I do recall that sevral years ago, a company sued an emplyee that was leaving. The court ordered that he could not obtain employment in his previous field for seven years (practically a life time). If in doubt you should probably seek professional legal advice because you could get yourself into MAJOR legal trouble. mhayes(a)infomatch.com http://www.infomatch.com/~mhayes

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