December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: RSA, PGP IN LEGAL FLAP OVER ENCRYPTION TECHNOLOGY
by jimbell＠pacifier.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:45 5/12/97 -0700, Chris DiBona wrote: >And keep in mind , I don't begrudge RSA thier right to make money off thier intellectual property, However, I've been waiting many years for some patent-law-knowledgeable person to explain why mathematics, which was widely seen as being absolutely unpatentable prior to the invention of public-key cryptography, suddenly became patentable just in time for RSA, etc. Until I hear such an explanation, I _DO_ begrudge RSA and others that "right." Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: whine politics again
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Earlier, paul said: >Also, on a slightly more practical point, as I have said, if one was to >bomb any major commercial or government building the chances of killing a >truly innocent person are fairly small anyway. What the ultimate result here should be we all demand our legislators pass a law prohibiting the establishment of daycare centers, schools, hospitals or nursing homes within 1000 ft of government centers, army bases, or any federal offices. They could call it the "No Human Shielding law." What legislator would dare complain that the federal government not use his or her constituents children to shield ATF, FBI or other TLA agents? Hey, it's "For the children", right?

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Re: [STEGO] Secure envelopes
by The Spectre 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Tue May 13 14:09:57 1997 > Tim C[ocksucker] May carries a turd in his wallet for > identification purposes. > In response to this childish, no.cajones.com message, I have removed all previous filters and added one, simpler filter on incoming mail. Delete when recieved from nobody(a)huge.cajones.com or lucifer(a)dhp.com. I suggest you all to the same.. it may actually serve to make this list worthwhile... - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzM2vJwAAAEH/1uuDgh1udD+DbU9ies8Lst3j7bmlM+m+aN0gVwerfx+uA14 AG6RDZwwCLwCZYxh0/AizW1b25nHs5XDFW7QIVo1/agtbyz3rt7plcp3wi+rXPxo zFPgILegG2k81mHYIYVJ1g9bEExVGsNc7GMthkaOjPL2VYirQPRtAa4ZZc6JuCLH I85xIcwuLppYajUU4WMMf4yz+5w1WtTlHdL9+ec6BHoF+fOhsF/8DMd5nveFl0aM G52t+z6okMw9vFjLbEtj0BbDRsMjRJNM5uFQWzU+nPEaUzVP+MySe/yrjR2P3dZa UKjpG3Er7U4DV7rb8mE20Wet10jJoALjG8yMZrUABRG0HVRoZSBTcGVjdHJlIDxz cGVjdHJlQG5hYy5uZXQ+iQEVAwUQM0qy66AC4xvMjGa1AQGNLAf/QY5SyC/jybOQ asYfNqhPFip0gZwUutOOgPdyrEsXoxFOWJ9OG95dzvNJ3of22zh4RLusUt5NT7lB DFUKiP4aQsNf5XmW+qk/R1nmqyO/XHAAAdIos2SGsYew2d3JatIlFZIQ+vMkEOC0 +oPotz7effhkDKeYl+Qdla9eZ1C47Be2NrA1sH26jKYhCob6VnAK+zAin8ZPEnb0 XEKQTMVdE2ehv2Q8PxygZhDI0L6sM6EgguvDWjJuGN4bIhxh22dAyNRJ7CVQsqwV rj4TtkAuqUb0nyQvD2xUeJcB/O+1LCH7oFBE4EG1qEIl7asVjEURrfej7OwxRrA0 J0Lc5tZToA== =tS4W - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBM3iud6AC4xvMjGa1AQFX1gf6A8z99Qot63ZAZsrDJqRqPMORB4FIHz9N z6Wl49tLg66LZpzjrsZ4YDHywz1eWadHOaD9NUpQuniZhuWN3TWveuXY+QHTakJa jZ3jP6+sOkCWXtfAi52sSV4KEPinkzQzTdqrCytSRnJ1KzOtgfoyQxdlxcn/R9sE CsbPQLm6cRQsd1zL1306a9uCX9qCR1/NypN0GCAGtVsWKwFf3Rd/U+Q7F8bkgBcc 757DzRXQCr6K9VbWdgFes9suzV42JFb5SdhPUnI1dhDmsjJvGwCvRJY/r3FvGLqP u2OII1rFT1zhhFPyAG3iqKGaE/U9fbCNwi0xzm6x1y8m6wQGxUUqrw== =kqhk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: `careerpunks'
by Hal Finney 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Adam Back, <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk>, writes: > In trying to figure out which lists were working, I noticed that there > are now many more people on coderpunks and cryptography than there are > on cypherpunks... take a look at these figures: > > 713 cryptography(a)c2.net > 713 coderpunks(a)toad.com > 245 cypherpunks(a)algebra.com + cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net - duplicates Coderpunks has not been very active, I think (although I don't always notice which messages come from which lists). Perry Metzger's moderated cryptography(a)c2.net has had some good discussions lately, including contributions from such people as Carl Ellison and Matt Blaze. There was an interesting proposal from James Donald for a possible approach to what they are calling CACK, "Corporate Access to Corporate Keys", without facilitating GAK, "Government Access to Keys". The cypherpunks list continues to have the edge in political commentary and bomb-making instructions. :-) Hal

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Public Key Break Paper
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In early April we posted a message which referred to William H. Payne's paper "Public Key Cryptography is Easy to Break." Mr. Payne has provided the 1990 5-page draft paper along with other documents, which we've added to the file at: http://jya.com/snlhit.htm The paper is part of several attachments supporting Mr. Payne's charge against Sandia National Laboratory. Other documents in the file help explain why the paper is sensitive to SNL and perhaps to NSA.

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Re: [STEGO] Secure envelopes
by The Spectre 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Tue May 13 16:01:35 1997 > On Tue, 13 May 1997, The Spectre wrote: > > I suggest that nobody do this, as this will filter out anonymous mail > from these remailers. You do, of course, have the right to filter out > whomever you want, but there are worthwhile anonymous contributions > from these remailers. I personally don't see what the big deal is > with these ascii-art messages. 95% of the time, these messages are > very easy to spot, and the remaining 5%, it takes two seconds to hit > the "delete" key. hmmmm.. Go figure out how many years of your life you'll waste doing that once you calculate how many of these messages arrive each hour, let alone each day. I, personally, have been on this mailing list for a while now, and have never seen *any* worthwhile posts from either of those remailers, or any other for that matter. If you've got something to say, say it. Anything less is cowardice, in one form or another. Or, if you like, I'll remove my spam filter and you can come hit my delete key for me... - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzM2vJwAAAEH/1uuDgh1udD+DbU9ies8Lst3j7bmlM+m+aN0gVwerfx+uA14 AG6RDZwwCLwCZYxh0/AizW1b25nHs5XDFW7QIVo1/agtbyz3rt7plcp3wi+rXPxo zFPgILegG2k81mHYIYVJ1g9bEExVGsNc7GMthkaOjPL2VYirQPRtAa4ZZc6JuCLH I85xIcwuLppYajUU4WMMf4yz+5w1WtTlHdL9+ec6BHoF+fOhsF/8DMd5nveFl0aM G52t+z6okMw9vFjLbEtj0BbDRsMjRJNM5uFQWzU+nPEaUzVP+MySe/yrjR2P3dZa UKjpG3Er7U4DV7rb8mE20Wet10jJoALjG8yMZrUABRG0HVRoZSBTcGVjdHJlIDxz cGVjdHJlQG5hYy5uZXQ+iQEVAwUQM0qy66AC4xvMjGa1AQGNLAf/QY5SyC/jybOQ asYfNqhPFip0gZwUutOOgPdyrEsXoxFOWJ9OG95dzvNJ3of22zh4RLusUt5NT7lB DFUKiP4aQsNf5XmW+qk/R1nmqyO/XHAAAdIos2SGsYew2d3JatIlFZIQ+vMkEOC0 +oPotz7effhkDKeYl+Qdla9eZ1C47Be2NrA1sH26jKYhCob6VnAK+zAin8ZPEnb0 XEKQTMVdE2ehv2Q8PxygZhDI0L6sM6EgguvDWjJuGN4bIhxh22dAyNRJ7CVQsqwV rj4TtkAuqUb0nyQvD2xUeJcB/O+1LCH7oFBE4EG1qEIl7asVjEURrfej7OwxRrA0 J0Lc5tZToA== =tS4W - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBM3jIoqAC4xvMjGa1AQHYGQf+LnnFnEHTlH+7N1X9gdG+Q+qyp44r1mHu kw6FcENloFaE7oRpaDffaCOlBEAwJEQYnPNr6LOD18rTYQ2ZgruI/sv73KslBDI9 CLRjBRpzPSyF3+59uGusxOdLzHIzKjUSrB0xF5n/C07DnEoDa9DvXz1p+XnuPxf5 ZgXbrPMrac66K+Mz16XyJeI7eUjUEpqgc1s4OJuBpLZkCskncL9lUr9lfoHw8neE g4fjzH4csJ6XWh7z5ZZWN1dK9n8dUe13Er7rTLXT7Y0Md7DlkeyinJqPGd4eoPZ9 z2Rka6QJKBs4JC5cki4Hf9zOnHfJiqc5d30v1A0S+u1paOkoGQd0zQ== =tJQ6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Announce] PGP
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Given Dr. Dimitri Vulis Spam's propensity to molest little boys, and hamsters is it any surprise that the state of New York wants to have him castrated? ,,, (o-o) -ooO-(_)-Ooo- Dr. Dimitri Vulis Spam.

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Re: [Stego] Vulis
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dr. Demi Vulvis, child molester, carries a turd in his wallet for identification purposes. _@_ / \ | o o | -U|--U--|U-- Dr. Demi Vulvis (proctologist, not cryptologist)

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Re: Digital signatures
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 From: Graham-John Bullers <real(a)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: Re: Digital signatures Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com On Mon, 12 May 1997, Huge Cajones Remailer wrote: I think Vulis needs each of us to send ten copies of this back to him. > Timmy May's family tree goes straight up. All of his ancestors > were siblings, to dumb to recognize Graham-John Bullers in the dark. > > _ o > |<)_/# Timmy May > TT <T > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Graham-John Bullers Modulator of alt.2600.modulated ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ email : real(a)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca : ab756(a)freenet.toronto.on.ca ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~real/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Would the anonymous person(s) please...
by bennett_t1＠popmail.firn.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Would all those anonymous remailing people with a flame tendency, please flame the person of your attacks, and don't send this bullshit to the list? Thanks...

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