December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Dead Kids (Oh My!)
by Toto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cynthia H. Brown wrote: > The problem with truly criminal drivers, including the criminally > incompetent, is that they tend to kill other people too. They also > have a distressing habit of surviving, unlike the family of four > they hit while running the red light. The reason I start drinking in the morning is that, at bar-closing time, it's just so damn hard finding a school-bus full of children. -- Toto "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" http://bureau42.base.org/public/xenix/xenbody.html

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Re: Market Failures, Monocultures, and Dead Legislators
by Dale Thorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Toto wrote: > Dale Thorn wrote: > > The best reason to oppose air bags and seat belts is that they > > protect the worst class of drivers (those who run into things, > > as opposed to those who get run into), who should be killed > > by their stupidity. (Survival of the fittest, without govt. > > interference). > How about a law prohibiting legislators from wearing seat-belts? > I think we could get a grass-roots thing going on this one. In California, they have those infamous Prop-nnn's, and the exercises the leg'os have to do to get around them could fill volumes. Here in the Land of Sunshine your son or daughter can begin their dream quest in the fry section of the local McD's, then when they graduate I.S. from Cal-State (Indentured Servant, $200,000 student loans), they can move right on up to waterboy/girl for Barbara Boxer and her mindless goon assistants. To begin with, all politicians should be required to ride around in limos with the top down. If it rains, let 'em use umbrellas. The guys standing by the road watching will be smart enough to bring their umbrellas [hee hee].

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Introductory Post
by Toto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dale Thorn wrote: > Death camps? Aw, shit. You know, once you've accumulated 20 or so > Attaboys, one Awshit can erase the whole stack. Guess you'll hafta > start over. Hi, My name is Toto. I'm handsome, witty, and have a humungous schlong. I hope you will not put me in your KillFile, because I am a sensitive person, and easily hurt. Not that I don't support a list member's right- to-choose. It's just that it would make you a free-speech murderer. I could send you some graphic pictures of KillFiled posts, and believe me, it is not a pretty picture. Hanging indents, misplaced pronouns. I also have some sex graphics, with dangling participles. As well, KillFiling can be stastistically shown to have racist underpinnings, as shown by the large number of Ebonics posts which were ruthlessly murdered in the past (although there are those that claim that it was only in retribution for the English language being murdered first). I have been a CypherPunk since kindegarten, when I learned Pig-Latin, and I believe that the only answer to noise is to quote the noise, while adding, "Shut up Dr. Vulis!!!!" -- :: Anon-To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Cutmarks: -- Toto "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" http://bureau42.base.org/public/xenix/xenbody.html

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by darrington＠debtfree.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Mechanical workings of Enigma
by Bubba Rom Dos 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At ftp://agn-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/pub/cryptsim/, there are several photos of an Enigma, and simulators for DOS and Windows.

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Re: Market Failures, Monocultures, and Dead Kids (Oh My!)
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

camcc(a)abraxis.com (Alec) writes: > Tim, > > There would be more room if your sig weren't so long. :-> Guys with short dicks use long sigs. > As you know, every year there are a certain number of child deaths as a > result of reactions to state-mandated innoculations/vaccinations. Gone too? > > Perhaps the difference, or rationale, here is the possible spread of disease > to others, rather than trying to protect the individual from himself. Suppose X chooses to innoculate their kids and Y chooses not to innoculate their kids against, say, polio; and Y's kids get it. They're not going to give it to someone whose parents chose to innoculate them. (This is a kind of borderline example, not unlike circumcision. The individual affected by the choice is too young to understand what it's all about, but doesn't want to be stuck with a needle. Why are the parents more qualified to make decisions for him than the state?) --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: Market Failures, Monocultures, and Dead Kids (Oh My!)
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Timothy C. May" <tcmay(a)got.net> writes: > At 5:48 PM -0600 3/17/97, Igor Chudov @ home wrote: > >do you also oppose mandatory liability insurance? > > Yes. In New York State, every motorist is supposed to have $10K insurance as well as a licence. Of course, a lot of drivers in New York City have no licences or expired/suspended licences, and no insurance. If you're injured by an uninsured driver, or someone who fled, or someone with no assets and a $10K insurance and $500K claim, then your only hope to recover something is to carry "underinsurance insurance" with your own insurer. I understand that it's even messier in New Jersey. It would be much healthier if instead of trying to file a claim against the other party's insuerer (if it exists :-) you always filed a claim against your own insuerer and let them figure out who to sue. The system doesn't work. > (By the way, Igor, could you make a greater effort to snip out sections of > posts you are not directly commenting upon?) Learn to ignore what you're not interested in, Timmy. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: Market Failures, Monocultures, and Dead Kids (Oh My!)
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mac Norton <mnorton(a)cavern.uark.edu> writes: > > On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, Timothy C. May wrote: > > > At 5:48 PM -0600 3/17/97, Igor Chudov @ home wrote: > > >do you also oppose mandatory liability insurance? > > > > Yes. > > And do you also oppose financial responsibility requirements > for obtaining the privilege of operating an automobile on > public roads? > MacN Dunno about Akransas (that's where Uark.edu is, ain't it). Your state is the home state of the muerderer Bill KKKlinton. You should commit suicide at once. But in the more civilized states, like New York or California, if you have an accident and your (good) car is totalled, then one of these three things will happen: * The other driver, who's at fault, has fled. You sue your own insurance company. * The other driver has minimal insurance and no assets. You sue your own insurance company (and the other guy). * You don't carry the appropriate insurance with your own insurance company and have no chance to recover much. Things would be much easier for everyone, including the drivers and the insueres, if the mandatory liability insurance was abolished and evryone delt with their own insurer - who would then try to recover damages from the other party if they had assets. The only people who benefits from the existing system are state bureaucrats. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: Dark Fiber Redux
by Dan.Oelke＠rdxsunhost.aud.alcatel.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > The implications for cryptography are rather cool. I don't *think* these > doped optical amplifiers interfere with so-called quantum cryptography (not > to be confused with quantum computing, of course). If I remember my SciAm > back issues, quantum crypto is cool, because if anyone touches the signal > from Alice to Bob they're detected immediately. Or, is it that the signal > drops? Can't remember which. Anyway, you need uninterrupted fiber to do QC, > and that's what you have with optical non-switched amplification, whether > you're disturbing the photons is another story. Anyone here know for sure? > I remember discussion about this, but I don't remember the answer. > I am not an expert in the *exact* physics of quantum crypto or of optical amplifiers, but I do have a least a college "modern physics" level of understanding of both. (and write software for a lot of fiber optics hardware) Quantum Crypto depends on the fact that you can't observe the photons without disturbing them, and that this disturbance would be detectable at the receiver. (i.e. Heisenberg's uncertainty principle at work) Optical Amplifiers work by receiving a relatively small number of photons, and passing them through a device where each photon creates in effect a cascade of photons to be generated thereby amplifying the signal. Now, this cascade mechanism in itself might be enough "measurement" to cause problems - but I don't know - and won't persue this avenue further. The problem is that while the waveform will be propagated, the orignal photons won't necessarily make it from one end to the other. Without these original photons making the entire journey I don't see how the quantum crypto would work. There are also pratical limitations on the number of optical amplifiers you can have in a system before having an electrical regenerator. Typical numbers are around 5 amplifiers, eaching going about 80km. This doesn't allow for around the world pure glass communications. ;-( Dan -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Oelke - droelke(a)aud.alcatel.com Alcatel Telecom, Richardson, TX There's a Wocket in my Pocket, And a Findow in my Window, And a Nook Gase in my Book Case

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RE: Market Failures, Monocultures, and Dead Kids (Oh My!)
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Declan McCullagh The short answer, perhaps, is that government should as a general rule adopt those policies that allow the greatest freedom over the long term. Private social pressure from families and communities may then develop into a more powerful force. ..................................................... There are limits to what can be accomplished through government. 'Government' is a coercive medium for effecting results; if everything could be accomplished by coercion, then it would rightly be expected that everything (everyone) should be always to be subject to coercion in order to have a smoothly running social machine. But if everything (all the benefits that people expect from social arrangements) could be accomplished by coercion, we wouldn't be the kind of life forms that we are. We would be the equivalent of "technology", subject to someone (else's) latest algorithmic program. Certainly under such an arrangement there would be no need for privacy. .. Blanc

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