December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

InfoWar 21 (Part III of 'The True Story of the InterNet')
by Bubba Rom Dos 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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InfoWar 21 / The GeigerBurg Text
by Bubba Rom Dos 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The True Story of the InterNet Part III InfoWar Final Frontier of the Digital Revolution Behind the ElectroMagnetic Curtain by TruthMonger <tm(a)dev.null> Copyright 1997 Pearl … [View More]Publishing ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- InfoWar Table of Contents * Lying Fucking Nazi Cunt Sex Criminal ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lying Fucking Nazi Cunt Sex Criminal ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "This has got to stop!" the crimson-faced man threw the printout on the desk of the Sex Criminal. The Sex Criminal, as usual, just laughed and tried to make light of the situation. "Well, at least Lying Fuck is better than Lying Nazi Cunt." the Sex Criminal winced as the woman Senator walked into the room just as the words were coming out of his mouth. The Nazi Cunt shot the Sex Criminal a stare that took the heat out of even his easily excitable loins. The post she had in her hand was even more to the point than the one that the Lying Fuck had thrown on the Sex Criminal's desk. She handed it to the Lying Fuck with a chagrined grin, saying, "Why don't you read it first, Mr. Freeh-dumb!" The Sex Criminal began to chuckle, but stopped quickly when the FBI Director shot him a stare that was colder than even the Nazi Cunt's withering look. The Lying Fuck then turned his attention to the email that the Nazi Cunt had received, along with a few hundred other Senators and Congressmen shortly before the vote on the ultra-fascist Oxley Amendment to the dictatorial SAFE bill being pushed in the House Commerce Committee. To: senator(a)feinstein.senate.gov From: HugeCajones Remailer<hc(a)dev.null> X-Mailer: WinSock Remailer Version ALPHA1.3B X-Comments: - X-Comments: "He who shits on the road, will meet flies upon his return." X-Comments: - X-Comments: "GOMEZ IS COMING!" X-Comments: - X-Comments: This message is NOT from TruthMonster. X-Comments: It was sent by an automated anonymous asshole under the X-Comments: auspices of the Electronic Forgery Foundation. X-Comments: - X-Comments: Note: Send any complaints about abuse of this remailer X-Comments: to the person most concerned about your rights and X-Comments: freedoms. (Hint: It's a "mirror" site.) Subject: !!! DEATH THREAT !!! You should be careful before you do foolish things like making a death threat because it can have really bad results. People like the Constitution a lot and if you are making a death threat against it then it is like saying your going to kill someone else's friend or family and everyone knows that they will kill you because they are domestic and not a stranger. Or is it that they are stranger and not domesticated? Never mind. You know what I mean. "Damn!" the Lying Fuck swore with a vengeance, "It's the fucking nephew, again." He began to pace the floor, angry that he had been boxed into a corner where taking strong action in response to this post would involve sending a swat team into an allied foreign country to arrest a fourteen year-old kid. A cute kid, nonetheless. A cute Christian kid. He shook his head slowly, as if in pain, as he continued to read the kid's continuing diatribe against encryption opponents. Especially if you try to make it so that they cannot put aluminum foil hats on their thoughts and their words and their writing. Then they get really, really, nervous and maybe start thinking that they have to kill everybody because they are not safe from anybody. You should be careful before you vote to kill the Constitution and look under all your chairs and stuff, just in case. The Sex Criminal was reading the same passage, and he looked up at the FBI Director, asking, "Isn't that a threat? Can't we do something about that?" He looked to the Nazi Cunt for support "Jesus, Bill!" the Nazi Cunt said, rolling her eyes upward. "You want to send the fucking Marines up to bring back a Canadian teenager in leg-irons so that he can remind our citizens that we have a constitution? Give it a break." Freeh continued to read the email. Even if you do think you can kill the Constitution and still have all of the people believe you are not a bad person then you should at least try not to let really stupid people who you work with say things like "I am too stupid to learn about this stuff so I am going to let the guys who want to make aluminum foil hats illegal and put everyone in jail decide how I vote to kill the Constitution." The one those guys who always say "Nuke DC" call Swinestein said that and it made everyone think you are all that stupid and going to let people with guns who kill women and children make your votes for you. Then even more of them say "Nuke DC" especially when they remember how bad the guys with the guns that you are letting vote for you fucked their friend (sorry but thats what they did) for making a stink with the IRS. The Lying Fuck couldn't help himself-he burst out laughing, with the Sex Criminal following close behind. He caught her frigid stare and said, "You said it, not me" "Swinestein." he half-mumbled under his breath. "I heard that, you bastard!" the Nazi Cunt screamed, turning and stomping out of the room in a great huff. If you take away some of the guns from people then you have to take away all the guns or you are in big trouble. If you take away some of the Constitution from people then you have to take away all of the Constitution or you are in big trouble. Even if you think you took away all of the things that people can use to be safe and free then they will make more-like Doritos. If you try to kill them with bullshit then they will try to kill you with their own brand of fertilizer. If you take away their aluminum foil hats then they will make hats out of paper and call them Forever Young. The FBI Director recognized the veiled reference to the Eternity Servers. He made a mental note to himself to begin action against them as soon as possible. He could make it a side-project of the agents working against the anonymous remailer operators. That reminded himhadn't they already killed off the Huge Cajones Remailer? He needed to check that out, ASAP. Killing the Constitution is a lot like killing DC-if your going to do it then you might as well do it right and do it all at once. Guys with guns who want to kill Freeh-dumb know that and so do guys with nukes who are Freeh-dumb fighters. (My uncle made up a new word about him-he said he "testiLied to Congress.") "Cocksucker!" the Lying Fuck banged his fist on the Sex Criminal's desk. "This fucker is dead!" he screamed, beginning to lose control, and throwing the email on the floor, stomping on it with one foot, and then the other. The Sex Criminal continued to read the end of the post. Don't be a stranger, APlayerToBeNamedLater p.s. - If you see Declan McCullagh getting in his car and driving like hell away from the city then you should get in your car and do the same thing. You dont need to pack a suitcase because I think if he does that then there is already one packed. (Thats what the guys with guns told you in your secret meetings so you will kill the Constitution for them isnt it?) The Sex Criminal looked puzzled. "How do these people get this information?" he naively asked his head bonecrusher. The Lying Fuck was getting tired of explaining the obvious to this fucking idiot, but he took relief in the fact that now the Line Item Veto had been passed, they could dump these liberal shills off at the next election stop and bring in an Aryan thoroughbred to make the Run for the Roses at the turn of the millennium. "We know we're going to do it. They know we're going to do it. The nuclear suitcase argument was Oxley's hole card, but this fucking email took the steam out of his argument by ridiculing it before it was even presented." "Fucking cypherpunks!" the Lying Fuck spit the word out, as the Sex Criminal handed him a printout of a news article that would be appearing in print the following day. Encryption Bill Gets Approval Of House Panel By CHRIS DiEDOARDO San Diego Daily Transcript, Sept. 24, 1997 The 40-11 vote late Wednesday in the House Commerce Committee could sound the death knell to FBI Director Louis J. Freeh's attempt to require software companies to install a "back door" in their security packages in order make them more accessible to law enforcement officials. "In closed session, the FBI said they don't have a problem with encryption in foreign markets, as they have the ability to use the military to decrypt the messages," Bilbray said, adding the agency didn't have that capability domestically. "God damn it!" the bonecrusher's temperature was rising, once again. "What the fuck good is a 'closed session' when everything we tell these dweebs gets printed before we get out of the goddamn building. "The press breaks the stories about our spreading bad replacement parts into foreign weapons systems, and the next thing you know, we have planes falling out of the fucking sky faster than we can count. Now we have to try to keep other countries in line with our weak encryption policy at the same time we're confirming that we can read their fucking minds and want to keep it that way." He shook his head in disgust, and continued reading the article. Early reaction from within the encryption industry was mixed. While John Kelsey of Counterpane Systems in Jefferson City, Mo., thought the Markey-White package was better than the alternatives, he said there was still a long way to go. "The best thing they could do is get rid of the export controls and otherwise not interfere by trying to regulate this technology," he said. "The FBI should be pushing for all Americans to use strong crypto, as cryptology makes crime harder." "When you encrypt credit-card numbers, that makes it a lot harder to commit credit card fraud," Kelsey said. "In fact, properly designed payment protocols make it very difficult for people to steal money from the system or frame other people." "What happens is the law-abiding citizens are constantly being encroached on for the convenience of us in government." "Intuitively, it seems like a bad idea to build a large infrastructure for eavesdropping on the American people," he said. "That's not a decision people should make without spending a lot of time thinking about whether we're comfortable doing that, as we'd be building the infrastructure for a police state." "Fucking cypherpunks!" the Lying Fuck said again, recognizing Kelsey's name. "Fucking cypherpunks!" the Sex Criminal echoed. The FBI Director sat silently steaming, making quick and hard decisions as to how to proceed with his agenda of total information control. Time to start hitting the hardware vendors hard, again, shaking the trees for those who would be the quickest to fold to the NSA's plans for hardwired monitoring and back doors into all aspects of computer systems, including encryption. He took his pen and circled the name 'Intel' on his game plan cheat-sheet. "Hit them hard and hit them everywhere." he said to himself. It was long past time to bother with the pretension of friendly discussion. He had gone past the point of no return with the announcement of his intention to gain law enforcement access to all aspects of corporate and private communications, the Constitution be damned, and he was not about to turn back now. Not on your life Copyright "TruthMangler <president(a)whitehouse.gov>" "I stuck my head between her cheeks, but I didn't inhale." ~ Marv Alpert ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" "WebWorld & the Mythical Circle of Eunuchs" "InfoWar (Part III of 'The True Story of the InterNet') Soviet Union Sickle of Eunuchs Secret WebSite ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- [View Less]

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National ID as Identity Authentication answer for EC?
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Evidently these idiots haven't heard of digital bearer certificates... Cheers, Bob Hettinga --- begin forwarded text X-Sender: rhornbec(a)counselpop.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 05:22:13 -0500 Reply-To: Digital Signature discussion <DIGSIG(a)VM.TEMPLE.EDU> Sender: Digital Signature discussion <DIGSIG(a)VM.TEMPLE.EDU> From: Rick Hornbeck <rhornbec(a)COUNSEL.COM> Subject: National ID as Identity Authentication answer for EC? To: DIGSIG(a)VM.… [View More]TEMPLE.EDU An interesting article by Thomas P. Vartanian appeared in the September 24 issue of the American Banker discussing the increasing need for identity authentication in electronic commerce and the use of National ID Verification Standards (NIVS) as a possible solution. Although the article avoids proposing specific ultimate sources of identity it does mention that "the adoption of these standards might facilitate the development of a national market for certificate authority errors-and-omissions insurance. It might also facilitate the creation and operation of what one observer has called 'cybernotaries.' Without uniformity in the authentication process, the efficiencies of certificates and the effectiveness of electronic commerce will be undercut." Following is a brief excerpt. Complete article available at: http://www.jya.com/national-id.htm ==================== 24 September 1997 Source: The American Banker --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment/ The Case for National ID Verification Standards By Thomas P. Vartanian Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson Financial fraud depends heavily on perpetrators' ability to hide their identities or assume those of others. Because the Internet is a medium for anonymous communication, it has been and will continue to be a breeding ground for innovation in electronic fraud. Proponents of electronic commerce seek to limit this risk through the use of digital certificates and similar methods of electronic authentication and verification. This raises a complex question for the trusted third parties, many of which may be banks, that certify the issuance and use of public keys in the digital signature arena: What does it mean to certify that a specific public key represents X in a world where the identification of X is an imprecise science? Authentication must be the starting point in any electronic network transaction. Lacking the customary modes of physical identification, the parties to a faceless transaction in cyberspace need proof from a third party that each party is who he or she purports to be. --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ [View Less]

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Domain name hearings starting right now. (www.democracy.net)
by Shabbir J. Safdar 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The domain name hearings are going on right now (you can listen in realaudio) at http://www.democracy.net/ The future of the infrastructure hangs in the balance of this debate. Check it out. -S

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opponents of GAK
by amp＠pobox.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Has anyone out there been keeping track of all the organizations, corporations and others who have come out against GAK? Pointers would be appreciated. alan ------------------------ Name: amp E-mail: amp(a)pobox.com Date: 09/25/97 Time: 09:17:21 Visit me at http://www.pobox.com/~amp == -export-a-crypto-system-sig -RSA-3-lines-PERL #!/bin/perl -sp0777i<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<j]dsj $/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$k"SK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1 lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp"|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=… [View More]

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American Banker - National ID - addendum
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text X-Sender: rhornbec(a)counselpop.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 05:59:31 -0500 Reply-To: Digital Signature discussion <DIGSIG(a)VM.TEMPLE.EDU> Sender: Digital Signature discussion <DIGSIG(a)VM.TEMPLE.EDU> From: Rick Hornbeck <rhornbec(a)COUNSEL.COM> Subject: American Banker - National ID - addendum To: DIGSIG(a)VM.TEMPLE.EDU Either the Temple listserve is automatically limiting the length of my posts (<gr>) or I … [View More]discovered a new e-mail bug. Here is the balance of the excerpt from the American Banker article I intended to post earlier. ==================== What actions should a certificate authority be required to take in this imperfect system to certify that X's public key actually is being used by X? To allow the electronic marketplace to operate effectively and efficiently, at a minimum certificate authorities must be able to achieve some level of certainty that if they have prudently conducted the due diligence required, they cannot be held responsible for fraud or malfunctions. National Identification Verification Standards-NIVS-would underscore that there should be only a limited range of actions for which a certificate authority should be held responsible in an electronic transaction. These standards eventually would need to be truly universal because of the globality and borderlessness of cyberspace. Moreover, such standards could level the playing field vis-a-vis the different levels of trust that might otherwise be accorded certificate authorities of various sizes, financial capacity, name recognition, and national origin. What should the elements of these national verification standards be? The more that the system relies on primary "root" documentation (paper or electronic) certified by the originator, the greater the certainty, albeit imperfect, that the certificate authority can achieve. The adoption of an integrated certification data base accessible to all certificate authorities must also be explored. A network that will allow each certificate authority to cross-reference digital certificates and confirm the issuance of multiple certificates to the subscriber will allow the digital signature market to function more efficiently and safely. >From a legal point of view, a digital certificate is a form of warranty. Warranties ascribe and allocate rights in a transaction, a business that commercial banks happen to understand quite well. But a digital certificate is not meant and should not be viewed as unlimited insurance for the use of the certificate or the successful completion of an electronic transaction facilitated by that certificate. In that regard, the adoption of these standards might facilitate the development of a national market for certificate authority errors-and- omissions insurance. It might also facilitate the creation and operation of what one observer has called "cybernotaries." Without uniformity in the authentication process, the efficiencies of certificates and the effectiveness of electronic commerce will be undercut. Richard N. Hornbeck Electronic Commerce Services "The most important step in arriving at the right answer, is asking the right question." Albert Einstein ("Al"). --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ [View Less]

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Re: Emphasizing a point by Donald Eastlake re key recovery
by Peter Trei 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 10:15:45 -0400 > To: Ross Anderson <Ross.Anderson(a)cl.cam.ac.uk> > From: Carl Ellison <cme(a)cybercash.com> > Subject: Re: Emphasizing a point by Donald Eastlake re key recovery > Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com, Ron Rivest <rivest-only(a)theory.lcs.mit.edu>, > cme(a)cybercash.com > Reply-to: Carl Ellison <cme(a)cybercash.com> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE---… [View More]

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Stop Collection Agencies Cold!
by 75706395＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Documents re 9th Circuit Emergency Stay now online
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Government asked the 9th Circuit on the 10th for an "emergency stay" of the District Court's limited injunction that would let Prof. Bernstein publish his Snuffle software online. Now you'll find Bernstein's opposition to that motion, filed on the 17th, online. And the government's attempted emergency reply, filed on the 22nd. You will also find the 9th Circuit motions panel's terse order granting the government motion (blocking Bernstein from publishing online) and scheduling the case … [View More]

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Re: Why the WHite amendment is a good idea (fwd)
by Ernest Hua 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Oops ... this may appear twice due to a mail hiccup. To: aweissman(a)mocc.com Subject: Re: Why the White amendment is a good idea (fwd) Cc: cypherpunks(a)algrebra.com > From: Aaron Weissman <aweissman(a)mocc.com> > > The NETCenter is a great idea. Very few of us would argue that our > society has an interest defining rules and in prosecuting their > transgression as crimes. Once we have agreed on that point, the > issue changes to a (still very important) … [View More]discussion on methods. I believe MOST people would agree with this statement. I must point out, however, that your next statement does not logically follow because the primary complaint of the NSA/FBI is that unless the work factor is artificially reduced (via some method) to some negligible point, their jobs in the future will become much harder (that is, if all they do is stick with the same ol' operational methods) per intercept. In fact, they are claiming that "much harder" could mean "practically impossible". > creating a decryption lab (and funding it with tremendous amounts of > money), our society will fulfill the basic obligation to protect > against the transgression of our rules. I am ignoring the comments on protecting the US citizens against abuse of this lab. I seriously doubt they could abuse significant numbers of individuals given free market development of encryption. If there was only one standard (say, DES), then there would only be one target. If there were 100 standards and 1000 data formats each, you can pretty much kiss this lab good bye. It is much more likely that this lab will engage in breaking incompetent criminal-use cryptography. It is unlikely that this lab can engage in the sort of mass data sweeps that NSA has been priviledged enough to do in the past. This sudden drop in capabilities and sudden jump in cost per intercept will enforce the status quo which the FBI has had to deal with to today. The cost per intercept has been estimated at $50K per domestic target. This is expensive enough that it does not make sense to tap anyone except where the cost can really be justified. > I have no doubt that a considerable portion of the NETCenter's time > will be spent in matters of foreign intelligence. (As I said, we > cannot afford two massive decryption laboratories -- the NSA will > have to give its decryption mandate to this new agency). I completely disagree here. You might be right, but I give you 1 million to 1 odds. The NSA is absolutely NOT about to give up its role as the numero uno decryption lab without sacrificing many politicians (possibly with their lives, too, as its accountability to the public is near non-existent). The NSA is politically impossible to take on for very obvious reasons. > In other words, this is a great tool for prosecutors to use *after* > they have established probable cause in their most heinous cases, > and a strong guarantee that the eyes of the government will not > intrude into our persons, papers and effects. The astronomical cost per decryption and the lack of a guarantee that it might necessarily produce useful evidence will guarantee that this tool is not abused. I agree with this kind of conclusion. That is, I believe that, if any side of this debate is to be guaranteed anything, it should be that abuse is guaranteed to be low, rather than LE access is guaranteed to be easy. > The passage of this amendment helps ensure that the terms of this > debate remain centered on our civil liberties -- not kiddie porn. I assure you that this debate will always be shifted toward the "suitcase nuke", kiddie porn, child molestor and drug dealers by the FBI and the NSA in secret briefings. There is not a chance in hell they will give up the best PR tool they have to scare the legislators, judges and the president without anyone present to counter their arguments. Ern [View Less]

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