December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: FINALLY, "SOME" TRUTH Re: Anonymous Nymserver: anon.nymserver.com
by Toto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Attila T. Hun wrote, in blood: > on or about 970313:1533 TruthMonger <an7575(a)anon.nymserver.com> said: > + To reiterate my original observations: > +1. The development of RSA was funded and controlled by the spooks. i.e. > +- The National Science Foundation and the Navy. > +2. The campaign of persecution against Phil Zimmerman ground to a halt > +once he agreed to PGP using the spook-developed RSAREF subroutines to > +implement the RSA functions, instead of PGP's original subroutines. > about a year ago when Phil's prosecution was dropped, I wrote a > rather lengthy message here about PKZ, the prosecution turning to > vapour, surprise funding for PGP, Inc. (which is substantial), and > the issue of being compromised. What I found interesting about TruthMonger's missive was that the replies he received as a result of merely 'questioning' certain things regarding the holy icon of PGP, he got back replies/rants, from normally rational list subscribers, which were scathing rebukes to issues he or she hadn't even raised. I wonder if you had a similar experience with the post you mention. > ANYONE who has managed to walk away from a fed hate/hatchet job has > been compromised to some extent. No shit, Sherlock. > + If people with guns came to me and told me that software I had > +written now had to use their subroutines, instead of my own, then I > +would consider my software 'compromised', regardless of whether or not > +I could immediately discern any anomalies in it. > + It is far, far easier to 'build' a back-door, than to 'find' one. > > you got that one right! > just the ability to _backtrack_ into the algorithms is a start. > One piece of clear text and you're toast. You can't tell me the guy who designed the Rubik cube didn't know how to 'beat' it when he was done. > + It never fails to amaze me how the back-doors that software makers > +intentionally build into their products for their own convenience > +suddenly become 'bugs' when hackers, among others, take advantage of > +them. > + One hacker I know used to find most of his hacks into AT&T UNIX by > +screwing up his system (i.e. - corrupting the passwd file) and then > +calling in the AT&T support techs and observing their tricks and > +techniques (and then improving on them). > > ...ask a few of the old line unix hacks at Murray Hill (where I was > "granted" my name....) however, AT&T was never as bad as a few of > the others (Sperry comes to mind...) and most of AT&T's access > points were not open and exploitable without you enabling them (by > giving them access). I know a hacker who could get Support Techies to perform all of their secret black-magic in front of him just because he had the abilty to act extremely stupid. (If he asked you the time of day, you'd write it down for him, and explain it to him.) > however, 20 years ago, the feds were scary enough with "new" > crypto; 4 AM rousts that noone believed the feds would do. > warrants? yeah, right! If the feds arrested you, you were > "obviously" guilty or they would not have arrested you. I think we can expect the day to come when the Feds make their major public relations tune "If you don't have anything to 'hide', then why do you need crypto?", thus pointing out to 'decent folk' that the CypherPunks are all drug smuggling, tax-dodging pedophiles. -- Toto "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" http://bureau42.base.org/public/xenix/xenbody.html

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Re: encrypt_1.html
by harka＠nycmetro.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- -=> Quoting In:lynx_user@linux.nycmet to Harka <=- In> Clinton Admin. To Offer Encryption Bill Shortly In> WASHINGTON - The Clinton administration plans to introduce In> legislation soon that would clearly affirm that encryption users in In> this country are free to use any type or strength of encryption In> technology, a senior administration official said. In> Currently, no such explicit law is on the books. Obviously, by making a law, that strangely enough tries to legalize, what is legal already, the administration is trying to bait people into "voluntary" key escrow, which are in my opinion the actual main points of the law... In> The bill also would: In> -- Spell out the legal conditions for the release of "recovery In> information" to law enforcement officials. The bill also provides In> legal safeguards for third-party "key recovery agents" who have In> properly released such information. etc.etc... What a bunch of bullshit. Now, that the backdoor "Clipper" doesn't work due to enough awareness, they now try all the windows of the house of cyberspace to do their black-bag job of getting a lock on the front-door, that they'd have a master-key for... Ciao Harka /*************************************************************/ /* This user supports FREE SPEECH ONLINE ...more info at */ /* and PRIVATE ONLINE COMMUNICATIONS! --> http://www.eff.org */ /* E-mail: harka(at)nycmetro.com (PGP-encrypted mail pref'd) */ /* PGP public key available upon request. [KeyID: 04174301] */ /* F-print: FD E4 F8 6D C1 6A 44 F5 28 9C 40 6E B8 94 78 E8 */ /*<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*/ /* May there be peace in this world, may all anger dissolve */ /* and may all living beings find the way to happiness... */ /*************************************************************/ ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAgUBMzJYADltEBIEF0MBAQFbFgf9HEgRLdqaE9jiWXBr8ztkLPTLAaQ5BfRE e4Q6KEYC/zGXUOEtxUEN755rIHo8PNwwSM7ovbEGf7La15O4AnNxRKbVvFbUWGTv nVw3eMDiy/mt11DqMQ316zAIv0sIpXJhspxHTSMWU++uIR3pVUGq31weFPUN4f4B RruaJwEmf1dvVVJkXHgDsrC8HiECSrBidvz57vfpeZpIj4BscEdycBEAH8zmnPic t3Hi9sc5Gc6DQz6ThbaMAj2bHhWEwPuw3GiKe2yzM6A2D/DeIZrlJ0dE2hK6DMXV jz2/DKNQYp9kS1d6vojPdYYEaPXR/upg6Otqno3SJ71DEMqcc49IDA== =vBCY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption...

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Cyberpromo hacked
by harka＠nycmetro.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.anonymizer.com:8080/http://www.cyberpromo.com

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Re: ADV Weekly Transcripts
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Regarding 1968 view of population control: _Stand on Zanzibar_ John Brunner Thanks

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No Subject
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

BELIEVE the Children! Toto <toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca> writes: > Dale Thorn wrote: > > > > Really? Define _common_. I have lived in the Mid West for about 85% of > > > my life, and I know no one who learned these things from their parents. > > > > C'mon guys. Parents diddling with their kids is more than common - > > probably 1/3 of all fathers do something sexual with one or more > > of their children at some point. People just suppress it. > > I can't believe it could be that common without the government > finding a way to 'tax' it. Def: relative humidity - the sweat on snow's balls as he fucks his sister. BELIEVE the Children!

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Jackboots in Canada
by camcc＠abraxis.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- AP 3/21/97 Quebec Spurred by a new outbreak of bombings, the Canadian government agreed Thursday to toughen laws to help Quebec stamp out a war between motorcycle gangs that has killed more than 30 people. [snip] ...Hell's Angels and Rock Machine...have been battling for control of the illegal drug trade in Canada. Canadian justice minister, Allan Rock, said the measures would include broadening laws on search warrants, electronic eavesdropping and bail conditions for arrested gang members. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.5 iQCVAgUBMzKOOiKJGkNBIH7lAQHrAwP+P/0YSzXsLKlLe5YAzOVC0QB31uNhmvim HsSdPbulXccXCV0WIeG5uCtzCLXliR759KunfxEs2GithcIpfcDDKa4SFJv9+SVi PqmWXAxs+qNQ/uQqsDo97zuk+tNhO0631XRkh1LS+tL9Q6pCJfSpNl3Ntvhtyafv OD01c5tLwts= =AqwJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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BXA on Crypto Plans
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Excerpt of BXA head William Reinsch statement on Goodlatte's SAFEncryption Bill HR 695 on March 20, 1997: The Administration has stated on numerous occasions that we do not support mandatory key escrow and key recovery. Our objective is to enable the development and establishment of a voluntary key management system for public-key based encryption. We believe the Administration's policy is succeeding in bringing key recovery products to the marketplace. Our attention is now turning toward how we can best facilitate the development of the key management infrastructure that will support those products. To that end, we will shortly submit legislation intended to do the following: Expressly confirm the freedom of domestic users to choose any type or strength of encryption. Explicitly state that participation in the key management infrastructure is voluntary. Set forth legal conditions for the release of recovery information to law enforcement officials pursuant to lawful authority and provides liability protection for key recovery agents who have properly released such information. Criminalizes the misuse of keys and the use of encryption to further a crime. Offers, on a voluntary basis, firms that are in the business of providing public cryptography keys the opportunity to obtain government recognition, allowing them to market the trustworthiness implied by government approval. ---------- Full statement: http://jya.com/bxahr695.htm

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[alt.best.of.cypherpunks]
by Bryce 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Thanks for the laugh. - ------- Forwarded Message From: snow <snow(a)smoke.suba.com> Subject: Re: PGP on AOL To: harka(a)nycmetro.com Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 07:46:08 -0600 (CST) Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Hi there, > I want to help a friend of mine to set up PGP. She's using Win 95 and > is on AOL. Can anybody recommend some good shells, that would make > make it easier for her? Remington .20 Gauge. Use the finest shot you can find, it tends to penetrate walls less. Good luck. - ------- End of Forwarded Message Zooko PGP sig follows -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: Auto-signed under Unix with 'BAP' Easy-PGP v1.1b2 iQB1AwUBMzKSYUjbHy8sKZitAQHrUgL/TC6JSEVU8QZq00WGt0Yp76AT9pPdgog0 3IUpFE17b+QPz9Lwn1FprL6oaSnAZgz7qnuGj+nel3VNd1R/Tjfa/5qnFiDj++q7 a1+ScrPkfZKQy9DaL9VCavqvTZNoyur0 =7yuN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: FINALLY, "SOME" TRUTH Re: Anonymous Nymserver: anon.nymserver.com
by Kent Crispin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Fri, Mar 21, 1997 at 03:06:41AM -0600, Toto wrote: > Attila T. Hun wrote, in blood: [...] > > > > you got that one right! > > just the ability to _backtrack_ into the algorithms is a start. > > One piece of clear text and you're toast. > > You can't tell me the guy who designed the Rubik cube didn't know > how to 'beat' it when he was done. With all due respect, Toto, this is not a valid point. It is easy for someone to design and implement something they can't beat. Whether PKZ designed in, or was coerced into installing, a backdoor into PGP is an interesting speculation, but immaterial. The only real data you have is the code itself. -- Kent Crispin "No reason to get excited", kent@songbird.com,kc@llnl.gov the thief he kindly spoke... PGP fingerprint: B1 8B 72 ED 55 21 5E 44 61 F4 58 0F 72 10 65 55 http://songbird.com/kent/pgp_key.html

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UK TTP Paper
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forward from Cyberia-L: Making absolutely no comment on the subject of licensing of certification authorities, you may be interested in a UK paper entitled LICENSING OF TRUSTED THIRD PARTIES FOR THE PROVISION OF ENCRYPTION SERVICES - Public Consultation Paper on Detailed Proposals for Legislation, March 1997. You can obtain a full document at http://www.dti.gov.uk/pubs. E. Michael Power Coordonnateur Secrétariat au commerce électronique Ministère de la Justice Canada ---------- This paper links to David Herson, the reputed GCHQ spy who admitted the EU/FBI wiretap pact: Information on any of the current TTP projects can be obtained from David Herson (DG XIII/7) at the European Commission (e-mail david.herson(a)bxl.dg13.cec.be) or from the Commission Web site at www.cordis.lu/infosec/

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