December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by sqa＠usa.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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RE: Internet, Countries, Nationalism, etc.
by P.J. Westerhof 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 20:06 27-01-97 -0500, Hettinga wrote: >At 7:39 pm -0500 1/26/97, blanc wrote: >>p.s. I be femme > ^^^^^^^^^^ > >Franconics... Or Lesbonics of course, Skol, Peter _________________________________________________________ P.J. Westerhof LL.D e-mail P.J.WESTER(a)NGI.NL | Computerlaw voice +31-347-375400 | Legal informatics fax/data +31-347-375400 | IT - consultancy Web: www.ngi.nl/cr/ | Soaring _________________________________________________________

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Re: Best Computer School?
by Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

ichudov(a)algebra.com writes: > moscow state university in russia is not bad also. > > they teach lots of theory... which is good. > > - Igor. > Do they have a master's program in computer science? :-) --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: Last nail for US crypto export policy?
by f_estema＠alcor.concordia.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Wed, 29 Jan 1997, Dan Geer wrote: > Export controls are meaningless without domestic use restrictions and > domestic use restrictions will never pass the test of the First > Amendment. <snip> Just because something is unconstitutional doesn't mean that learned judicial appointees will find it unconstitutional. When domestic GAK is passed, it will be structured to fit into the judicial philosophy of the day. This is under the same philosophy that says television shows are not speech, but rather a commercial enterprise. If the courts were first amendments absolutists, like the persons on these two lists, there would be no problem seeing porn on primetime TV. There would also be no V-chip law. When they manage to get the political conscensus, they will pass it. Incidentally, I remind you of the results of the moot court that was held at one of the CFP conferences, where a GAK case was tried in front of real federal judges by real lawyers. Our side lost.

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FBI=LIE
by Adam Shostack 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/washpol/fbi-lab.html Login cypherpunks, password cypherpunks. WASHINGTON -- For decades the FBI's reputation as a crime-fighting agency has rested heavily on its high-tech forensic laboratory, which could solve baffling crimes from a speck of blood, a sliver of paint or the thinnest filament of human hair. But an investigation by the Justice Department's inspector general has put the FBI laboratory, and the way the agency has used it, under the glare of public scrutiny. The findings, which were turned over to FBI officials last week, are threatening to shatter the image of an agency on the cutting edge of scientific sleuthing. [...] -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume

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Re: Last nail for US crypto export policy?
by Steven Bellovin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It is dangerously naive to label this success the ``last nail for US crypto export policy''. Everyone concerned with this issue, from the NSA to the FBI to anyone who wants to use crypto, understands this and accepts it. 40-bit keys are good for protection against casual snooping, and nothing more -- and no one is going to claim that you need supercomputers to crack them. In fact, I assert that the U.S. government is *happy* about these results -- because it's going to push folks towards wanting stronger crypto for export. The only problem, of course, is the terms under which such code can be exported... I'll go further -- in my opinion, the only reason the government doesn't want DES to fall just yet is that alternatives aren't ready. That is, the banks and financial institutions, and for that matter the government agencies, have not converted to 3DES or Clipper or what have you, and can't do so on short notice; the commercial products they need just aren't ready yet. No one wants to risk a loss of confidence in the financial system. Two years from now, though, when some key escrow products are ready, it may be a different story.

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Cats Out of Bags
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- "In an interview Tuesday, [David L.] Aaron [the Feds' Crypto Ambassador] disputed the industry's view that the U.S. efforts to control cryptographic technology are being outstripped by the pace of the technology. "When I talk to other governments," he said, "they still don't feel that the cat is out of the bag." What the fuck do *they* know? DCF -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 4.5 iQCVAgUBMu+CdoVO4r4sgSPhAQHMqgQAhLoHArHx76zdXu8yM7WrThPi0pn8U5wG IQQItZFQAK84MnnbKDEDsW4SW5e9pM7JaFWbFqUg4VooAnKRd/2oITSijEW57jsR SQrhdqztR5fX82Wi9kBNsx92+McywzaeJBI6t+oTEYqqUlhQhzCoJiUpjMu9Q9FR 2gg8Mc01l4E= =MgUH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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PGP Mail
by Toto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone know if PGP Mail works well with Netscape? I remember hearing about some problems, but don't recall seeing anything indicating they were fixed. Toto

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Re: Cats Out of Bags
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:10 AM 1/31/97 -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: >On this point, the other governments are correct. >It really _is_ tougher to maintain a nation-state when your >former subjects can have private conversations with each other >and with other governments' former subjects...... >And even 56 bits is a start. You don't have to be nice to nation states you meet on the way up if you're not coming back down. DCF

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misc. security url
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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