December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: My messages not appearing on either of the lists?
by Timothy C. May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:57 PM -0800 2/6/97, Sandy Sandfort wrote: >On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Timothy C. May wrote: > >> My posting seem to be going into Limbo, being sent neither to >> the Cypherpunks Heaven Sandy administers nor to the flames of >> the Cypherpunks Hell. At least this is how things now appear. > >It doesn't look familiar. I don't have any idea what happened. >Can anyone tell me if they saw it on the unedited list? That's >where I would have read it. I reproduced the message in my message earlier tonight. Although there are no headers to show routing, since I sent it but never received it, I can assure you it was marked by Eudora as "Sent," and my ISP has reported no delivery problems of any sort. Thus, based on past experiences with thousands of such sendings, I surmise with great certainty that my message was mailed successfully to cypherpunks(a)toad.com. What happened to if after that I cannot say, but I suspect something related to the "Moderation" process, by Ockham's Razor. There seem to be more "lost" messages than before this "Moderation" thing began. I literally sent thousands of messages (maybe tens of thousands...) and cannot recall a "lost" message. Now, it's happened to me a couple of times that I can recall, and to at least some others, based on recent messages. I thought the basic equation was: UNEDITED = MAIN + FLAMES, with MAIN and FLAMES being disjoint. It's looking now more like: UNEDITED = MAIN + FLAMES + DROPPED/LOST Possibly the fault lies in the software Sandy is using to sort the messages, possibly elsewhere. Whatever, this needs to be fixed immediately, or the experiment abandoned immediately. --Tim May Just say "No" to "Big Brother Inside" We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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alt.cypherpunks (was: Re: My Departure, Moderation, and "Ownership of the List")
by C Matthew Curtin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> "Adam" == Adam Back <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk> writes: Adam> Perhaps it is time to reconsider the benefits of Adam> alt.cypherpunks. (As an aside, it is ironic that John Gilmore Adam> was the guy who started the alt.* USENET hierarchy, specifically Adam> to facilitate freedom of speech). This would have another benefit. More sophisticated tools exist for filtering usenet than for filtering email in a voluntarily cooperative way. For example, I use a fairly extensive .procmailrc file to filter my email, and blow away stuff that's either spam or a post from someone I consider a blathering idiot. There are some other folks on the list who likely do the same thing, and there are some whose .procmailrc files I'd like to see, and likely include in my own. But there's no easy way to do that. With alt.cypherpunks, anyone who wishes to "help kill noise" could simply issue a NoCeM report, and those of us with reasonable newsreaders would be able to "listen" to the reports from people with whom we want to cooperate. And we can ignore the rest. The beauty of this scheme is that the control of the list is in the hands of the individual reader, without requiring huge amounts of redundant effort. It's also occurred to me that there can be folks who NoCeM the NoCeM reports :-) - -- Matt Curtin Chief Scientist Megasoft, Inc. cmcurtin(a)research.megasoft.com http://www.research.megasoft.com/people/cmcurtin/ I speak only for myself Hacker Security Firewall Crypto PGP Privacy Unix Perl Java Internet Intranet -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Have you encrypted your data today? iQEVAwUBMvtAVX6R34u/f3zNAQEFBQf9F6K+47WukspV3BU3E5+/hR9ARVc0cGt5 1zTwkipAqGOZeXMm4//vPYh/q9DyKzV2VLLr/sY7cRiBCypv2BP8y8e8dqkK0eYq LGaLpmF5IGomJA2iCLYmgQAWJrdhKIBxwyuX0hyDwjTvOF/S4BSV2x1b0dR3q1RB goV/3vqvxpEan/iy53M+rMAaYffb4s+TRslIJY5ct1ddx+5aeQGOAmgnGWToK1Ja 5ZLYUwkLQ1By14FxC4451uJDHxARNZcKVuu/dcfH+oWYQFrTo9CPi+7Ykpyyxz8X 0v68Gj57xEdnVgz6XshMY3NHOhiIcCuQQSJ1LjkLSfuV9ZzXuiMKQw== =2ckb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: anonymous remailers
by ichudov＠algebra.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[I am sending a copy of my article to Tim just to make sure] Sandy Sandfort wrote: > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > SANDY SANDFORT > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > C'punks, > > On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Timothy C. May wrote: > > > Why was this message (attached below) sent to the "Flames" list? (*) It > > contains an assertion that the remailer operators are colluding to reveal > > identities, and this is surely a fit topic for discussion. > > > > (* I have temporarily subscribed to the Flames list to see just what it is > > being filtered or censored by Sandy. I received this message, and it had > > the header "Sender: owner-cypherpunks-unedited(a)toad.com," thus I surmise it > > is a "Flames" message. It would help, by the way, if messages were more > > clearly labelled by the Moderator as to which bucket he placed them in.) > > Currently, there are three lists. It looks as though the message > in question appeared on the Unedited list. This is NOT the same > as the Flames list. > > I don't recall where I sorted that particular post to after I > read it on the Unedited list. If it went to the "wrong" list, > my apologies to the author. As I indicated before, I don't think I am attaching Vulis's posting below, so that the mistake could be corrected. Judging by the dates in the headers, it went to flames list in 3 seconds after arrival to toad.com. That makes me think that somehow it got routed there without human involvement. > a 100% solution is possible, but I think I'm running in the high > 90s under the criteria I enunciated. Not perfection, but a > definite improvement over the prior condition. I see three problems with the current state of the list: 1) There is no charter and no criteria that I am aware of, so your 90% statement is meaningless 2) Moderation policy has not been set (or voted upon) by the readers, therefore it was not optimised to serve the readers 3) Crypto-relevant posts, not containing any flames, get rejected. >From cypherpunks-errors(a)toad.com Thu Feb 6 22:20:35 1997 Return-Path: <cypherpunks-errors(a)toad.com> Received: (from root@localhost) by manifold.algebra.com (8.8.3/8.8.2) with UUCP id WAA12996; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:20:29 -0600 Received: from toad.com (toad.com [140.174.2.1]) by www.video-collage.com (8.8.5/8.8.0) with ESMTP id XAA01326; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 23:14:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA08550; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:13:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from uu.psi.com (uu.psi.com [38.9.86.2]) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA08545; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:13:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by uu.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA07700 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 97 23:07:09 -0500 Received: by bwalk.dm.com (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Thu, 06 Feb 97 22:24:48 EST for cypherpunks(a)toad.com To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Subject: Re: anonymous remailers From: dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) Comments: All power to the ZOG! Message-Id: <iJkq2D46w165w(a)bwalk.dm.com> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 97 22:22:05 EST In-Reply-To: <32fa39d8.16371604(a)mail-relay.internetmci.com> Organization: Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y. Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com Precedence: bulk Status: RO c.musselman(a)internetmci.com (Charley Musselman) writes: > C'punks -- > When I told a friend about the alt.drugs.pot cultivation newsgroup > and suggested that he use an anonymous remailer to post to the group, > he laughed and said, "Who do you suppose runs the remailers? ATF, > FBI, DEA, that's who!" Gee, it makes sense to this paranoid. Does > anyone know the answer? Specifically, how can we choose a trusted > remailer? Even if the feds are not directtly involved, the so-called "cypher punk" remailers are run by people who should not be trusted. Check out their remailer-operators list: it's full of announcements that some specific person posted something via the remailer that the operator didn't like. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: My messages not appearing on either of the lists?
by Timothy C. May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:57 PM -0800 2/6/97, Sandy Sandfort wrote: >On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Timothy C. May wrote: > >> My posting seem to be going into Limbo, being sent neither to >> the Cypherpunks Heaven Sandy administers nor to the flames of >> the Cypherpunks Hell. At least this is how things now appear. > >It doesn't look familiar. I don't have any idea what happened. >Can anyone tell me if they saw it on the unedited list? That's >where I would have read it. I reproduced the message in my message earlier tonight. Although there are no headers to show routing, since I sent it but never received it, I can assure you it was marked by Eudora as "Sent," and my ISP has reported no delivery problems of any sort. Thus, based on past experiences with thousands of such sendings, I surmise with great certainty that my message was mailed successfully to cypherpunks(a)toad.com. What happened to if after that I cannot say, but I suspect something related to the "Moderation" process, by Ockham's Razor. There seem to be more "lost" messages than before this "Moderation" thing began. I literally sent thousands of messages (maybe tens of thousands...) and cannot recall a "lost" message. Now, it's happened to me a couple of times that I can recall, and to at least some others, based on recent messages. I thought the basic equation was: UNEDITED = MAIN + FLAMES, with MAIN and FLAMES being disjoint. It's looking now more like: UNEDITED = MAIN + FLAMES + DROPPED/LOST Possibly the fault lies in the software Sandy is using to sort the messages, possibly elsewhere. Whatever, this needs to be fixed immediately, or the experiment abandoned immediately. --Tim May Just say "No" to "Big Brother Inside" We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Deloitte-Touche?
by Adam Back 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mark <mark(a)infolawalert.com> writes: > I'm almost certain that Murray is a consultant rather than > or in addition to an accountant. He's been saying these things > for years at conferences, in papers, on mailing lists, etc. To get the definitive version I asked him what his relationship to DT is (I got his email address from a sci.crypt posting), and this is what he said: : I am a consultant to Deloitte & Touche's information security : practice. So now we know. Nice that he defended freedom to use cryptography anyway, Adam -- print pack"C*",split/\D+/,`echo "16iII*o\U@{$/=$z;[(pop,pop,unpack"H*",<> )]}\EsMsKsN0[lN*1lK[d2%Sa2/d0<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<J]dsJxp"|dc`

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offer of unmoderated list home (was Re: IN%"pdh@best.com",IN%"ichudov@algebra.com",IN%"gnu@toad.com",IN%"ay@got.net)
by Adam Back 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Allen, that post had a garbled header, and some people may have missed it, so I'll repost (your cc line was broken also, being in the subject field, so I've added your cc line in): : Allen Smith <EALLENSMITH(a)ocelot.Rutgers.EDU> forwards with permission : Lance Cotrell's email: : : Lance Cottrell <loki(a)infonex.com> writes in email to Allen: : >I would be happy to donate the resources to run Cypherpunks off our system. : >We could set up the list provided we were given a list of subscribers. I : >assume it would be unmoderated. : > : > -Lance : > : >> Hi. I don't know how much you've been keeping up with : >>the discussion on cypherpunks, but there is a current proposal : >>to distribute the list onto several different servers. I would : >>be willing to pay for 100 subscribers to run on the cyberpass.net : >>server, provided that somebody else (e.g., Igor Chudov) set up : >>the system initially and was available for assistance later. Any : >>problems on your end? : >> [...] : >> Thanks, : >> -Allen I'd argue for waiting to see the outcome of the moderation experiment, before rehoming the list. The multiple host system proposed by Igor sounds like a good idea in any event. Adam -- print pack"C*",split/\D+/,`echo "16iII*o\U@{$/=$z;[(pop,pop,unpack"H*",<> )]}\EsMsKsN0[lN*1lK[d2%Sa2/d0<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<J]dsJxp"|dc`

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Re: 40-bit RC5 crack meaningless??
by Vin McLellan 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The alway-informed Prof. Froomkin <froomkin(a)law.miami.edu> asked: >This would be the same Strassmann who stated in public at Harvard early in >1995 that most remailers were run by intelligence agencies such as the >KGB, then denied saying it when asked for substantiation? And cut it >from his paper? Don't know that one, but it seems feasible. Strassmann had the status to speak at Harvard; probably the K school. (He's also an interesting author, really worth a read; despite this recent balderdash.) I kept a clip from an interview with him for years: after the bomb attack on the World Trade Tower he proclaimed that a "Electronic Pearl Harbor" attack on the US was inevitable. The only question, he said, was when. Not if. (It was a usefully overheated hook for some article on compsec, but I don't think I ever used it. Reminded me too much of warnings that someone was bound to someday taint the city water reservoir with LSD;-) As I recall, that piece also quoted him as saying that he knew of an incident where some group had held a major banking institution ransom with a threat to destroy their data files somehow. He refused to identify the institution or otherwise give any further details about the incident. Came to mind a few months back, when Winn Schwartau was firing off (also overheated) missives from Europe reporting, with scant detail, that several UK or European banking institutions had paid off millions when subjected to similar blackmail. > {...} there is some debate about the extent to which in >*intelligence gathering* as opposed to, say, trying to crack a banking >protocol, one can reasonably count on a known plaintext. And much debate >about the processing costs of not having one, especially when one doesn't >know what kind of document is being encrypted (e.g. is it ASCII plaintext? >a spreadsheet? a jpeg? etc.). I think that's his (misdirected) point. The latter is a interesting debate -- but, as you note, not really relevant in this case, where Strassmann proclaims: >>In summary: The claim of exportable cryptography being totally >>insecure, because it can be cracked in 3.5 hours is not >>realistic. The three clues announced in the contest >>would not apply under infowar conditions. Now, an international institution which buys and bets the bank upon US-exportable (40-bit) cryptography probably deserves what it has bought: espionage-enabled software designed for fast and cheap decryption by spooks and sundry college kids with access to a handful of machines. The original annoucement of the RSA Secret Key Challenge declared forthrightly that even 56-bit keys -- whatever the algorithm! -- offer only "minimal" security. (What Goldberg did in hours, many could do in a days or weeks with much less equipment. A 40-bit key length offers a universe of about, what? a trillion possible keys.) And while there might be debate as to how hard it is to attack cyphertext when the attacker doesn't know _anything_ about the message (not its data format; not the language being used; nothing!) there is really none about the fact that -- with virtually any piece of that puzzle -- the attack becomes relatively straightforward. A big job for a little machine, but conceivable: grab a key, decrypt, and then match for the right stats. Rare indeed is the commercial message, or even the typical government transmission, where its original digital format is not easily guessed -- if not known for certain. That is the contemporary, real-world, infowar/infocrime environment. To a machine -- which is, after all, looking for a statistical pattern in the results, not "meaning" -- knowing that the message is in English (and/or coded in ASCII) is functionally equivalent to an old-fashioned human codebreaker being given a matched plaintext/cyphertext sample. Given that much, the computer doesn't need the plaintext! It's counterintuitive to the layman, but one would expect a savvy systems guy like Strassmann to know this cold. Even my son, at 4, understands that a computer manipulates the fodder fed it only in terms of ones and zeros. Statistics, not the "plaintext" clue, reveal who dun it... to the machine. Clue #3 -- "the giveaway." Lord help us! Paul Strassmann has probably taught a generation of the DC InfoWar accolytes how to think about this stuff!!! Hopefully their kids can re-educate them. Suerte, _Vin Vin McLellan + The Privacy Guild + <vin(a)shore.net> 53 Nichols St., Chelsea, MA 02150 USA <617> 884-5548

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The Konformist: The Chamish Files - Bibi Part One
by Robalini＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Subj: ARTICLE: Netanyahu-Part One Date: 97-01-31 13:06:05 EST From: chamish(a)netmedia.net.il (Chamish Barry) >WHO IS BINYAMIN NETANYAHU? (Part One Of Two) > >By; Barry Chamish* > >Two Fridays after Israel's new Prime Minister was elected, the >newspapers were filled with bios of the new leader. The most indepth >research was undertaken by Orly Azula-Katz, Anat Meidan and Rami Tal of >Yediot Ahronot who produced a balanced portrait and Biranit Goren of >Kol Ha'ir whose story was a snow job. > >Nonetheless, both reports agreed in most details, if not >interpretations. These two reports, combined with other public >knowledge create a most disturbing and mysterious caricature of >Israel's leader for students of secret diplomacy. > >The Conventional Story > >The prevailing myth about Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu is that he >grew up in a highly politicized, right wing household. Responsibility >for the presumption lies with his father Bar Tzion, a dedicated >revisionist who was a pallbearer at the funeral of Zeev Jabotinsky. > >The facts are different. Netanyahu recalls," My father did not want me >to enter politics. We were very non-political." The founding families >of Zionism's revisionist wing which produced two generations of leaders >like Menachem and Benny Begin and Yaacov and Dan Meridor, barely knew >of the Netanyahus. > >What Binyamin inherited from his father was an obsession with learning. >His grades in junior high were all above average but he excelled in >only one subject: music. > >When Binyamin moved to America at age fourteen after his father >accepted a teaching post in Philadelphia, his hero became JFK. >Netanyahu felt very alienated being away from Israel and took waitering >jobs to earn the money to spend his summers back home. There his >greatest pleasure was working on left-wing kibbutzim with his pals from >Jerusalem. They recall that he would always try to outwork them, even >when he had an injured knee. > >Returning to high school in Philadelphia, Netanyahu shared close >friendship with only those students as imbued with love for Israel as >he was. He was a straight A student who graduated fourth in his class >at Cheltenham High School, one of the most academically competitive >schools in America. But he didn't attend his graduation ceremony. War >broke out on June 5, 1967, and Netanyahu flew to Israel to volunteer >for the army. > >A high school buddy, Ari Bintener recalls,"No one was surprised. It was >obvious his place was in Israel. I was pleased that he found a way to >help his country." > >Bob Trimble, Netanyahu's soccer coach remembers,"Bibi was the best >player on the team, except for his brother Yoni who could have played >professionally if he had wanted to. The only problem with Ben was that >his political views were so far to the left of the other players." > >As a soldier, Binyamin rose to the rank of captain in the most secret >combat unit of all, the fighting arm of military intelligence. He took >part in a good number of legendary operations and was wounded while >fighting highjackers holding a Sabena passenger plane. On the Suez, he >almost drowned trying to swim with his heavy automatic rifle under >Egyptian fire. He became known as "the lousy swimmer from Jerusalem." > >Soldiers recall him as a cool but "square" officer who lost his temper >only once. That was when he found his men had been taking "souvenirs" >from operations in Lebanon. He put a quick end to what he viewed as >looting. > >After five years of soldiering Netanyahu returned to America to study >architecture at either Harvard or MIT. He chose the latter because it >permitted him to begin an MA course load, as his academic advisor Prof >Leon Garviser remembers. "I told him that no one could handle the load >but he insisted that he had to make up for time lost while serving his >country. I agreed to add one extra course in the first semester and >when he passed all his courses I added another one. In the end he >finished his MA in two and a half years. Don't ask me how. No one did >it before him or since." > >Once again, Netanyahu interrupted his studies only once. In October of >1973, war broke out in Israel and he flew back to fight in the Sinai. >When he returned, he became a student activist on behalf of Israel, a >fact that was noted by the Israeli consul of Boston, Collette Avital. >In one of the many ironies in his life, it was Avital, the dovish >consul of New York during the Rabin/Peres administration who arranged >Netanyahu's first television appearance, a debate with PLO activist >Prof Edward Said. > >The loss of his brother Yoni during the Entebbe raid put a stop to >Binyamin's plans to become an architect. Instead he settled for an MA >in business administration and took a post at the Boston Consulting >Group. His boss was Ira Magaziner, the man who later was the >intellectual force behind the Clinton administration's failed health >reform package. > >As Moshe Arens notes, "Bibi is only the second prime minister who ever >had a real job outside the army or politics. Shamir was the first. He >once worked as an accountant in a glue factory." > >While working at Boston Consulting, Binyamin received his first >diplomatic assignment: he was sent to Sweden to advise the government >on efficient administration of public companies. > >Already earning $100,000 and with a splendid career before him, >Netanyahu decided to give it all up and return to Israel to act as the >marketing manager of a furniture concern. As his colleague Barbara >Maclogan notes,"Anyone who claims Bibi planned to live in America >doesn't know what he's talking about. He gave up the opportunity of his >life in Boston to earn a quarter of his salary in Israel." > >In 1979, Netanyahu organized an anti-terrorism conference in Jerusalem, >dedicated to his fallen brother. Somehow, he managed to attract the >likes of George Bush, George Shultz, and Richard Perle (President's >Reagan's chief arms negotiator) to the meeting and was thrust briefly >onto the world stage. But when the conference ended, it was back to >work at the furniture factory. > >That all changed in 1982, when Israel's Washington Ambassador Moshe >Arens invited Netanyahu to be his deputy. This unprecedented career >rise has been a subject of much speculation. Many people have noted >that Bar Tzion Netanyahu was one of the few guests invited to Arens' >wedding and he was repaying an old friend. But Arens has a different >explanation. "People got a good laugh when they heard I phoned a >furniture factory to find a deputy. What sold me on Bibi was his >organization of the anti-terror conference and the strong impression he >made on American leaders who participated." > >In 1984, after two visibly successful years as Arens' deputy, Bibi was >named Israel's ambassador to the UN. In another of those ironies that >follow him, he was appointed to the post by Shimon Peres against the >objections of Yitzhak Shamir. Once again, it was a leader of the Labour >Party who promoted his early career. > >This was the true turning point in his quest to become prime minister. >Netanyahu's good looks, fluent English and controversial opinions made >him a media star. He became a frequent presence on Ted Koppel's >Nightline and Larry King Live. As King observes,"Whenever he appeared, >the phones wouldn't stop ringing. He especially made an impression on >women viewers. As a guest I'd rate him 8. If he had a sense of humor to >go with everything else, he'd have been a 10." > >During this period, Netanyahu wrote his book, Terror-How The West Can >Win. The book made a tremendous impression on the Reagan >administration. In fact, whenever George Bush visited New York, and >that was often, he would call on Netanyahu. > >By 1988, Netanyahu had made powerful allies in the American media. He >received strong support from Charles Krauthammer of the Washington >Post, Abe Rosenthal of the New York Times, and Ellie Weymouth, daughter >of Katherine Graham, the publisher of Newsweek. When he returned to >Israel, he was too powerful a figure to be ignored and was appointed, >first Deputy Foreign Minister and later the Prime Minister's spokesman. >In this capacity, CNN made Netanyahu an international media star during >the Persian Gulf War. > >Netanyahu was ready to challenge the Old Guard of the Likud. The >combination of youth, determination and powerful allies abroad led to a >resounding victory in the Likud primaries of 1993 and in the general >elections of 1996. >-------------------------------------------- >Sent by Barry Chamish - Israeli journalist. >Phone/Fax : (972)-2-9914936 >E-Mail : chamish(a)netmedia.net.il >--------------------------------------------

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The Konformist: The Chamish Files - Bibi Part Two
by Robalini＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Subj: ESSAY: [2/2] Natanyahu Date: 97-01-31 12:51:08 EST From: chamish(a)netmedia.net.il (Chamish Barry) >From: Chamish Barry <chamish(a)netmedia.net.il> > >The Secret Life Of Binyamin Netanyahu > >Even within the conventional story, it is clear that Netanyahu was >groomed for leadership by the Council On Foreign Relations (CFR) in New >York. In 1979, twenty-seven year old Netanyahu called a conference on >terrorism and the ruling elite of the CFR, Bush, Shultz and Perle >answered to his summons. One word will suffice: why? > >Yoni Netanyahu was undoubtedly a martyr but far from the only one in >Israel. He was not such a powerful symbol that the CFR would send a >delegation of its biggest guns, including CIA director Bush to his >unknown brother's get-together. > >Netanyahu's decision to quit his lucrative Boston job is almost >inexplcable. Netanyahu sought a highpaying job at a prestigious >consulting firm yet not two months later, he gave it up to fly back to >Israel and sell sofas. He was barely settled in back home when he >decided to organize an anti-terrorism conference and invite the most >powerful people in Washington to attend. > >It is possible that Netanyahu was told to quit his job, return to >Israel and arrange the conference. Perhaps there is a connection to the >fact that a year later Shultz later made fighting terrorism a first >priority of the Reagan administration and that Vice-President Bush was >appointed to head a front for illegal covert activities called The >Anti-Terror Task Force. > >Arens' offer of a deputy ambassadorship to salesman Netanyahu >made no political sense. Israeli diplomatic aides and deputies >typically rise slowly through the Foreign Ministry bureaucracy. They >are not thrust into the second highest position at the most vital >embassy in the world. It is far from impossible that Arens was >directed to bring in Netanyahu by the very people in the Reagan >administration who attended his conference three years earlier. > >Once in New York in 1984, CFR-affiliated media such as CNN, the New >York Times, Washington Post, Newsweek and CFR members Koppel and King >turned Netanyahu into a major political figure; so much so that George >Shultz became a close friend. We again ask the succinct question: why? >What did Shultz, twenty years Netanyahu's senior, find so amusing about >the Israeli UN Ambassador that he had to pay him a courtesy call every >time he flew to New York? In 1985, Shultz chaired another Netanyahu- >organized conference on terrorism, this time in Washington. The >resulting publicity and prestige was a significant factor in >Netanyahu's fast-rising political career. Clearly, the secretary-of- >state had a major stake in Netanyahu's future. Which means, so did >George Bush. > >All that can be concluded from the conventional story. What then do we >make of Bibi's secret life? > >In 1987, Netanyahu applied for credit using his American social >security number 020364537. With that number, he or someone else made >the application under a phony name, John Sullivan, living at a false >address in Northern California. > >Netanyahu used Sullivan's name to borrow money during 1987-88. John >Sullivan does not exist, nor does Netanyahu's credit file. Israeli and >American reporters who tried to dig into Netanyahu's past using his >social security number discovered two other phony names used to apply >for credit in 1987-88 but were perplexed to find that his credit >records were completely removed. Only someone very high up in the >American government could have authorized the erasing of the file. > >We return to the all-purpose question: why? Again, no one who knows is >talking. What is nearly certain is that while Netanyahu was the UN >Ambassador, he was either defrauding a credit company or on an >assignment involving money that required three identity changes. > >Then there is Netanyahu's close relationship with Congressman Ben >Gillman, head of the House Committee On International Relations. The >problem here is that Gillman was also a close associate of Shabtai >Kalmonovitch and shared business deals with him in Africa. Kalmonovitch >was, not long after, imprisoned in Israel as a KGB spy. This is not to >imply that Netanyahu was involved in spying, only that his closest ally >in Congress has mighty strange intelligence ties to Israel. > >And what to make of the mystery of Netanyahu's housing?. Before he was >even the leader of the Likud, two foreign businessmen, Jack Mandel of >Australia and Sandy Eisenstadt of the US each paid about $750,000 to >buy Netanyahu luxury apartments in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. Again, no >one has a clue why. There is speculation that part of the reason may be >Eisenstadt's stake in an Israeli oil exploration company, a shady and >hidden business, but no concrete connection has been discovered by the >Israeli media. > >Netanyahu's penchant for secrecy is not subtle. It is well-known among >the Israeli media that he had conducted a number of secret meetings >with the Jordanian royal family in London and Amman before he became >prime minister. Even the conventional Jerusalem Post reported in mid- >June that six secret meetings were held in the past two years. But when >Inside Israel just before the elections asked Netanyahu to comment on >the meetings, he denied they had ever taken place. > >Perhaps the most secret and worrying ties concern what is supposedly a >high-tech services company. Yediot Ahronot relates how Netanyahu wooed >a local Likud leader. "He was invited by Netanyahu to a meeting in his >office at Systematics in Ramat Gan. The head of the company, Oded >Levental is a candidate for a financial post in the new government." > >Systematics is at the core of serious research by American alternative >publications, including the usually reliable Media Bypass. In short, >the allegations are that the National Security Agency had handed >Systematics stolen software called Promis that opened a trap door to >the world's secret banking transactions. About 250 Americans, mostly >politicians, had their illegal foreign accounts emptied of over $3.5 >billion in the operation. It is claimed that Colin Powell dropped out >of the presidential race after his account electronically vanished. >Leading figures in the operation included George Bush, Caspar >Weinberger and two Arkansas attorneys, Vince Foster Jr. and Hillary >Rodham Clinton on behalf of Clinton financier Jackson Stephens. The >research invariably concludes that Foster was murdered because he knew >too much about the scam. > >A leading investigative writer, Sherman Skolnick, writes: > >"Some contend Systematics is an NSA proprietary and spies on banks >overseas. Can Systematics rightfully deny spying actually done by >buffers or cut-outs between Systematics and NSA? Systematics, through a >spokesperson, vigorously denies Foster assisted it in any spying on >foreign banks but remains apparently silent on whether Hillary Rodham >Clinton assisted Systematics in some nefarious activities." > >Is it fair to ask why Systematics provided Netanyahu office space and >if this was the sum total of its involvement with him? > >Since taking office, Netanyahu has fueled fears of international >control by his actions within Israel's tiny anti-NWO community. They >were most intrigued by his refusal to give Ariel Sharon a sensitive >cabinet post. One possible reason is fear of Sharon's own intelligence >arm in the US. Then for those people who fervently hoped that he would >rid himself of any connections to the Arye Deri scandal, with all its >implications of money laundering and perhaps murder, Netanyahu >appointed as his Justice Minister, Yaacov Neeman, a lawyer who is >currently being investigated for intimidating a key witness against >Deri in a London trial. > >But the topper was Netanyahu's decision to allow Yaacov Frenkel to run >the country's economy single-handedly. Frenkel worked for the World >Bank between 1971-1990. After nineteen years away from "home" Frenkel >was unexplainedly appointed head of the Bank of Israel. > >His policies mirrored the world-wide debt program of his previous >employer documented by numerous researchers. The plan involves raising >interest rates beyond what the public or industry can afford, and >forcing the government to borrow lots of money from American banks to >keep the populace pacified. When the debts have to be repaid from an >empty treasury, the International Monetary Fund bails out the country >with schemes guaranteed to impoverish the people. > >Frenkel was a proponent of Israel borrowing $10 billion in loans >guaranteed by the American government and he kept his interest rates as >high as he could in the face of opposition from then-Finance Minister >Avraham Shohat who suspected Frenkel, "was playing politics with the >Bank of Israel." > >Binyamin Netanyahu, the man who Inside Israel hoped would save Israel >from the NWO puppet regime of Peres, appointed Yaacov Frenkel to be his >Minister of Finance. The only thing that prevented the disaster was >party opposition to an appointee who had never publicly supported the >Likud. > >Dan Meridor got the post instead. But as the Maariv headline read: >"Meridor Will Act, Frenkel Will Lead." On his first day in office >Meridor announced that his policy would be to lower the standard of >living in Israel. Not a week later, Frenkel raised the interest rates >by a whopping 1.5% with Meridor's "approval." > >Something is going on behind the scenes at the CFR. While Secretary of >State Warren Christopher must appear to be opposing Likud government >policies to keep the Arabs in line, the former CFR director is playing >some kind of double game with Netanyahu. > >King Hussein made his accommodation with Netanyahu well before the >elections and refused to support Peres during the campaign. Netanyahu's >victory clearly delighted him and on the surface, why not? The last >thing he would want is a PLO state on his border with control of the >Moslem holy sites. In time, it will become clearer what Netanyahu >promised the King during the secret London meetings. Included, most >assuredly, will be Jordanian hegemony over the Temple Mount. > >There has been a transformation in Israel but the CFR is still running >the latest prime minister. And that is a good reason for intense fear >about Israel's future. >---------- >Barry Chamish is the editor of Inside Israel, an investigative report >on Israeli affairs. For a free sample copy and subscription >information, write: > >INSIDE ISRAEL >POB 579 >Swindon, Wiltshire >ENGLAND SN4 OTA >Fax: 44-793-790722 >EMAIL:merkava@tcp.co.uk >-------------------------------------------- >Sent by Barry Chamish - Israeli journalist. >Phone/Fax : (972)-2-9914936 >E-Mail : chamish(a)netmedia.net.il >--------------------------------------------

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Skipjack uses Elliptic curve? (was Re: Moderation [Tim,Sandy])
by Adam Back 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Lucky Green <shamrock(a)netcom.com> wrote: > [...]. How many of you remember the anonymous message posted to this > list revealing that Skipjack is an elliptic curve cipher? [One of the most > respected names in cryptography confirmed this to me in private > conversation. No, the person was not privy to the secret specs. The person > didn't need to be. :-] What aspect of Skipjack family is Elliptic curve? Skipjack itself I thought was a symmetric key block cipher, with 80 bit keys and 64 bit block size. The key escrow designs (clipper chip and family) included several additions: 1. check sum to prevent LEAF (Law Enforcement Access Field) forgery (16 bits, which is not enough as Matt Blaze demonstrated) 2. government access copy of chip's serial number encrypted with LE family key in LEAF 3. copy of session key encrypted with unit's escrow key in LEAF (the escrow key is the key that is stored in the government database indexed by chip serial number - the database which is split between the two escrow agents). 4. hardware random number key generation 5. undisclosed key exchange mechanism 6. are DSS signatures used? Presumably the Elliptic curve is for key exchange? Is there something about the design which implies Ellitpic curve must be the key exchange mechanism used? Another possible area for public key, if they had it on chip, would be to use public key encryption for the encryption of the serial number. Otherwise, when the chip is reverse engineered the LE family key would allow traffic analysis of all clipper traffic. Public key would prevent this. (According to Ross Anderson's paper on tamper proof hardware, at least one chip manufacturer has reverse engineered the clipper chip) > If nobody cares about the leaks, why do we need to provide a forum for > them? Besides, there are other fora that could be used. sci.crypt or > Coderpunks are both good places to post "found" code. It is true that sci.crypt and coderpunks do make alternative fora. Somebody else pointed out that rc4.c was posted to sci.crypt first. I think they are correct, and in fact if I remember, it was forged as from David Sterndark <david(a)sterndark.com> or some other play on David Sternlight's email address. Adam -- print pack"C*",split/\D+/,`echo "16iII*o\U@{$/=$z;[(pop,pop,unpack"H*",<> )]}\EsMsKsN0[lN*1lK[d2%Sa2/d0<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<J]dsJxp"|dc`

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