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Re: Money Laundering (fwd)
by Vincent Cate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> On Thu, 6 Mar 1997, Vincent Cate wrote: > > So we had like 50 people from FC97 asking questions of several Anguillian > > lawyers. At the moment there is no law against money laundering. But > > they are thinking of having a law (drafts out) that would make money > > laundering a crime. > > This puzzles me. I missed some of the session you refer to, but I did do > an interview with Victor Banks, the Minister of Finance, and Lynwood > Bell, whose Hansa Bank is the last surviving indigenous Anguillan bank, > and both of them were very very definite that money laundering is > absolutely prohibited. Ya, absolutely prohibited. But not by law, yet. Soon come. > Were they just putting a good face on things for the press? I'm quite > willing to believe this. But how can we know for sure, either way? No, they really don't want any money laundering. Maybe they were holding off on that law change so that the USA gov could run a money laundering bank here for awhile. But the US seems to think their bank has done enough money laundering and they shut it down. -- Vince

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(Fwd) President's Commission on Critical Infrastructure Protec
by Charles Anthony 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:22:28 -0800 (PST) From: Phil Agre <pagre(a)weber.ucsd.edu> To: rre(a)weber.ucsd.edu Subject: President's Commission on Critical Infrastructure Protection Reply-to: rre-maintainers(a)weber.ucsd.edu [I got a call inviting me to participate in the Los Angeles hearing of this thing. It's always hard to tell whether you have a chance to affect their thinking or whether you're just letting them claim to have consulted widely before they release their already-written report. I wasn't able to return their messages right away because I'm on the move and can't find a payphone that's programmed to let me call them back at their 888 number. (Argh! Finding a free Internet terminal to send this message, however, was no problem.) They tell me that the Los Angeles hearing is on Thursday, so if you (unlike me) don't have a job or something and want to give them a firm but polite piece of your mind, you might be interested in showing up.] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This message was forwarded through the Red Rock Eater News Service (RRE). Send any replies to the original author, listed in the From: field below. You are welcome to send the message along to others but please do not use the "redirect" command. For information on RRE, including instructions for (un)subscribing, send an empty message to rre-help(a)weber.ucsd.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 08:10:14 -0800 (PST) From: "Brock N. Meeks" <brock(a)well.com> To: cwd(a)vorlon.mit.edu Subject: CWD--Searching for Toto CyberWire Dispatch // Copyright 1997 // March 1997 Jacking in from the "Man Behind the Curtain" port: Here... March This by Lewis Koch CWD Special Correspondent Chicago --You better not hack, better not phreak -- The President's Commission on Critical Infrastructure Protection [http://www.pccip.gov] is coming to town. This behind closed doors Commission holds the key to America's most precious civil liberty chastity belt: Privacy. And now it's going on tour. That right, the Commission is coming to a town near you, a dog-and-pony road trip whose tour jackets are read: MADE in the NSA. The Commission's goal during the tour is to hear from the people, to collect ideas about how to protect the critical infrastructure from... from... why the newest threat (ominous music) to our national well being now that the Sovs are gone, Saddam's waiting for a bullet and the Chicoms are turning capitalists -- (scary music swells) - "cyber-terrorists" attacking our so-called "critical infrastructures" through devious computer hacking raids. Honest. And yet, even as members of the Commission smile politely and nod their graying heads, they are busy trying to figure out (read: Justify) just how to rewrite U.S. laws which would lift, or at least modify, the decades old ban that keeps our nation's top spooks from the National Security Agency from gathering intelligence on you and me. Which is not to say these kats don't have an ironic sense of humor. One of their first public debuts will be in San Francisco during next week's Computers, Freedom and Privacy conference. Of course, if you can make it to CFP, you might try the Los Angeles, California, Public Works Hearing Room, City Hall, room 350, third floor, starting at 10 a.m. and if you can't grok with the freaks in L.A. or the cypherpunks in San Francisco, perhaps you can make it to Commission's other scheduled stops in Atlanta, Houston, St. Louis or Boston. (Call now, operators are standing by, 202-828-8869, ask for Liz.) Between all his strenuous fund raising efforts, President Clinton last July found the time to form a this Commission to inquire into the question of whether this nation has protected its precious physical and cyber innards, namely electric power, gas and oil, telecommunications, banking and finance, transportation, water supply, emergency services, and of course, continuity of government services, and...the Internet. By this time the Government has caught on to the fact that the Internet is no longer a fun toy for academics and young people but rather but serious business for people who bustle around or sleep over at the White House. There is money to be made on the Net, power to be wielded. There are also some big bucks to be spent, billions maybe, on what will almost certainly be efforts to "make things safe" from cyberterrorism. The most important job this Commission, however, will be to direct attention away from the real issues: who was/is responsible for developing weak, vulnerable infrastructures in this country in the first place. (Pay no attention to the men behind the curtain, the men who built the crumbling infrastructures of Internet Central in the first place.) Second, while it would be foolish to deny that problems exists with thieves who use computers and cyberspace, where some child pornography and a whole hell of a lot of money laundering takes place, cyberspace is merely a reflection of society, the good and the bad and a lot in between. What then, do "cyber threats "actually look like? Who might carry them out. How? Where? And who will lead the effort to gather, collate, fold and staple all this valuable information? A recognized Internet expert? Someone with extensive experience in networks and cross-platform computing? Nope... not for Bill Clinton. Just wouldn't do. No, sir, what we need to combat terrorism is, well, a goddamn, real life combat veteran, by gwad! Enter Robert T. March, chairman of this Infrastructure Protection Task Force. You can call him "Bob" or simply "The General" will do because, well, that's what he did most of his life and besides, it has a real nice ring to it. The executive order creating this Commission states that the chairman be "from outside the Federal government," which Marsh is, technically, since he retired from the military in 1989. He still collects his "inside" the Federal government military retirement pay though. Question is, do you want someone who might played a part creating the mess, now deciding how to fix it? The background information on General Marsh is kinda skimpy, at least for someone who spent the vast majority of his adult life, rising to the rank of General. He's 73, a West Point graduate, a resident Alexandria, a tony Virginia suburb a stone's throw from Washington, D.C. "His last assignment was serving as the commander of the Air Force Systems Command, where he directed the research, development, test and acquisition of aerospace systems for the Air Force," reads his brief bio on the Web page. So we can at least legitimately guess that he was heavy into some kinds of high tech R&D and Procurement stuff, pushing paper and awarding big time contracts. It seems that following his retirement, Marsh marched right back into research, development, test and acquisition, only, well, on the other side. "He served as the first chairman of Thiokol Corp [http://www.thiokol.com/]" his bio reads, "as it transitioned from Morton -Thiokol in 1989 to separate company status." (Remember the Challenger Disaster in 1986? [http://www.fas.org/spp/51L.html] Can you spell O-rings? If you click on the company's Web page history section, [http://www.thiokol.com/History/History.htm#HistoryOfCompany] this seems to be a non-event. Could there have been two Morton-Thiokol companies?) Marsh is a very active senior, serving on the board and as a stockholder active in a surprising number of other high tech ventures, some or all of which could conceivably wind up providing all kinds of high priced of technical goodies to combat bad guys bent on physical and cyber destruction of our dear, up-until-now unprotected infrastructures. And according to public information office of the Commission, Marsh intends on keeping his corporate goodies "but at a reduced compensation" because he was merely "designated" by the President -- which in White House jargon means...whatever the hell one wants it to mean-- as long as you don't have to give up the stock and the options and the director's fees (Being "designated" means never having to say I'm sorry.). Marsh also has strong ties to CAE Electronics, [http://www.cae.ca/cae_electronics_inc/cae_electronics_inc.html] a new U.S. company which markets high tech stuff. CAE has a Canadian papa, which, among the high tech goodies it markets are "Air Traffic Management Systems" and "Engineering and Software Support for Weapons Systems." So, having someone on the Director's payroll in the States, someone with 35 years of experience in the United States Air Force, makes good, er, business sense. Marsh also owns 40,000 shares and makes $8,000.00 a year plus expenses for his directorship in Teknowledge, [http://www.teknowledge.com/company/company.html] a Palo Alto high tech firm parked behind a fence and leafy trees. Teknowledge is very interested in communications and the Department of Defense. Here is how the company describes some of what it does: "Since the DoD and many commercial businesses plan to conduct large-scale operations over international computer networks similar to the Internet, much of the Teknowledge's current and future project focus is in providing network associate systems to make access to knowledge easier, and network accelerators to make knowledge access over networks faster and more cost effective." So, we're taking marketing here, not rocket science; it's easy to see how Teknowledge might be a "good fit" for any computer infrastructure "hardening" contracts. Cyberwarriors already have a name for it: "Minimum Essential Information Infrastructure (MEII) also known as "emergency lanes on the information highway." Marsh is also a director of Comverse Government Systems Corp.[http://www.cis.comverse.com/]. Among the things that Comverse makes are digital monitoring systems for law enforcement and intelligence agencies. Oh? Yes. Digital wiretapping, monitoring, as in...why...yes...of course. The perfect party gift for the FBI in search of the hackers who put on those nasty things on the Justice Department Web site. Marsh also is a trustee of MITRE Corp, which, we see [http://www.fast.org/irp/contract/m.htm] is into air defense and other command, control, communications, and intelligence systems used by Department of Defense clients. The company's ties to the defense intelligence community go back to the late 1950, with project code names such as HAVE STARE and STEEL TRAP. And when the General takes his World Tour back home D.C. will we ever see it's findings? The Commission isn't bound by the Freedom of Information Act, so we don't have those thumb screws to turn. However, the Commission is governed by the Federal Advisory Committee Act, which, in part, is there to "to open to public scrutiny the manner in which government agencies obtain advise from private individuals." Of course, this situation being one of vital national security interest, cyber-terrorists and all tha t, don't expect a flood of documents and sunshine from the General. Apart from the General, there's an interesting internal conflict on the Commission. You see, though it's headed by a "civilian," it's run by the FBI, which doesn't get along with the CIA and neither get along with all that well with the NSA. It's a schizophrenic role for the FBI, to be sure. Actually, there are people in the FBI who at least know the right questions to ask, that's a start. The problem is whether their questions can be heard over the din of furious, clueless answers shouted out by Dir. Louis Freeh, James Kallestrom and others in their own agency. So, come on out and give the General a few choice thoughts... and don't forget to call to reserve your spot in line... government operators are standing by, ahem, from the hours of 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. EST only, of course. But hurry, this country is not sold in stores. --------------------------------- Lewis Koch <lzkoch(a)mcs.net>KS ********************************************************************** Charles Anthony 612 871 4090 http://www.info-nation.com http://www.info-nation.com/rates.html

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Re: The Pro-CODE Bill could make things worse!
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:35 AM 3/10/97 -6, Peter Trei wrote: >Someone calling themselves "Tim May" wrote: >> The only solution is to use crypto anarchy to destabilize the system and, >> hopefull, see them swinging by their necks in front of the Washington >> Monument. Nearly every politician I'm aware of has richly earned the death >> penalty, and I hope to see in my lifetime justice carried out. > >Tim: > >It looks like Jim Bell is faking mail from you to the list. Nah, it wasn't me, but it might as well have been. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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by Bovine Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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DCSB: Stewart Baker on Clinton Administration Crypto Policy andDigital Commerce
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The Digital Commerce Society of Boston Presents Mr. Stewart Baker, Steptoe & Johnson formerly General Counsel, the National Security Agency "The Clinton Administration's Latest Encryption Policy and What It Means for Digital Commerce" Tuesday, April 1, 1997 12 - 2 PM The Downtown Harvard Club of Boston One Federal Street, Boston, MA Mr. Baker will discuss the details of the Clinton Administration's latest encryption policy, which seeks to encourage "key recovery" encryption by offering special export privileges to companies that support key-recovery systems. He will also discuss the reaction of American high-tech companies, foreign governments and consumers. Mr. Baker, formerly General Counsel of the National Security Agency, has an international and technology practice at Steptoe & Johnson in Washington, DC. He is a frequent contributor to WIRED and other publications on topics such as encryption, national security and Internet law. This meeting of the Digital Commerce Society of Boston will be held on Tuesday, April 1, 1997 from 12pm - 2pm at the Downtown Branch of the Harvard Club of Boston, One Federal Street. The price for lunch is $27.50. This price includes lunch, room rental, and the speaker's lunch. ;-). The Harvard Club *does* have dress code: jackets and ties for men, and "appropriate business attire" for women. We will attempt to record this meeting and put it on the web in RealAudio format at some future date We need to receive a company check, or money order, (or, if we *really* know you, a personal check) payable to "The Harvard Club of Boston", by Saturday, March 29, or you won't be on the list for lunch. Checks payable to anyone else but The Harvard Club of Boston will have to be sent back. Checks should be sent to Robert Hettinga, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, Massachusetts, 02131. Again, they *must* be made payable to "The Harvard Club of Boston". If anyone has questions, or has a problem with these arrangements (We've had to work with glacial A/P departments more than once, for instance), please let us know via e-mail, and we'll see if we can work something out. Planned speakers for DCSB are: May TBA June Philip A. DesAutels W3C Digital Signature Initiative July Win Treese TLS, Digital Commerce, and Export Issues We are actively searching for future speakers. If you are in Boston on the first Tuesday of the month, and you would like to make a presentation to the Society, please send e-mail to the DCSB Program Commmittee, care of Robert Hettinga, <mailto: rah(a)shipwright.com> . For more information about the Digital Commerce Society of Boston, send "info dcsb" in the body of a message to <mailto: majordomo(a)ai.mit.edu> . If you want to subscribe to the DCSB e-mail list, send "subscribe dcsb" in the body of a message to <mailto: majordomo(a)ai.mit.edu> . We look forward to seeing you there! Cheers, Robert Hettinga Moderator, The Digital Commerce Society of Boston -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2, by Very Safe Mail 1.0 iQCVAwUBMyVuhvgyLN8bw6ZVAQH+wAQAlaqe4wAlAWEps8JrSwCxKQyTtd8wiKTz JNoVDKvkXsCTbmH9faXnWS4Zk6AEgTkzoSo2XmSK7rGZDHZ2Hvkg2qF70Q0/0HqH AKWVNSqhgLiiVIgzE6DityZdxhiEToM8KNT2eHYimN3pZTtGQ1DIIxpfrxXlr69w sEBuXCRjjto= =mFKw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "Never attribute to conspiracy what can be explained by stupidity." -- Jerry Pournelle The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/rah/

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by NTMail 17 Dec '03

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