December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: lead remailer is shut down
by Lutz Donnerhacke 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

* Ed Falk wrote: > Can't remailers be written with basic spam safeguards? I.e. no mass > crossposts, limited # of posts by each individual client per day, etc.? Yes, thay can, but using PGP is enough to filter out the majority of spammers. -- | Lutz Donnerhacke +49/3641/380259 voice, -60 ISDN, -61 V.34 und Fax |

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Re: MODERATION
by Dale Thorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

E. Allen Smith wrote: > While I ultimately concluded it (or at least the manner of doing it) > was a bad idea, I am appreciative of the effort. I hope this won't discourage > you too much from trying out other (hopefully better) ideas. Great idea, Allen. The fox only ate *some* of the chickens first time around, but let's train the fox a little, and then throw him into the chicken coop for round two. Like, fer sure.

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Feb. 15 Meeting (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message:

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Re: POST: The Frightening Dangers of Moderation
by Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Jerry Basham" <scndsun(a)sprynet.com> writes: > You're going to have to find a way to make this junk, piss juvenile crap > stop coming into my e-mail box. Period. I don't think this guy is for real... No one's that stupid. Must be another Gilmore tentacle. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: RRE: Proposed satellite monitoring of car movements in Sweden
by E. Allen Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"bdolan(a)USIT.NET" "Brad Dolan" 9-FEB-1997 10:35:16.85 >"Love it or leave it?" >On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, Phil Agre wrote: >> You have plenty of choice. If you don't like our country, move somewhere >> else. I made the point back to Dr. Agre that I can't choose to live in _no_ country (at least not practically), but I can (except for state-imposed limits) live without automobile insurance. I already do so for credit cards, except for one I use only in emergencies. -Allen

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Taking advantage of Newt's phone calls
by Michael Gurski 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- It seems like Sprint's taking advantage of the tap on Newt's little call there by advertising how Sprint Spectrum is private and no one can listen in, with little "signal" graphics going from one SS phone to another in DC... Cute... |\/|ike Gurski mgursk1(a)umbc.edu http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mgursk1/ finger/mail subject "send pgpkey"|"send index" Hail Eris! -><- O- |Member, 1024/39B5BADD PGP Keyprint=3493 A994 B159 48B7 1757 1E4E 6256 4570 | Team My opinions are mine alone, even if you should be sharing them. | OS/2 Senate Finance Committee Chair, SGA 1996-1997 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: I am not a number, I am a free man! iQCVAwUBMv4NVCKEMrE5tbrdAQFIpgQAsS87dmofyalpLJMJjIRk71KmZheEbhnJ WNvCO2fvvxP5aURbeh/MwVV7KOL0hcISPVWoFXrP9HmWSuhc3X7TRCQKVGESTOzS 9z2TaTF8hcAV8PFN3CCReBU5p/6OUBLN85pMbgyk818hAMf9LRhnroauSzQlXtGz iAhkvhlnBUg= =eAZ+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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HIC_rim
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

2-10-97 NYT has Page One lead on high resolution commercial "spy satellites," and the welter of political, social, economic and national security consequences as foreign governments, corporations and individuals hire them to invade privacy, secret sites and labs. A nearby story reports on organized crime's shift to new industries, especially those reliant on high technology: calling cards, stock offerings and health care. ----- HIC_rim

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Ken Bass Interview Schedule Corrections
by ISP-TV Main Contact 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

*** ISP-TV Schedule Correction *** Ken Bass (counsel for Phil Karn) interviewed live on "Real Time" *** >> *** Monday, Feb. 10 *** << Note the date correction *** 9:00 PM ET *** Ken Bass is a partner in the firm of Venable, Baetjer, Howard & Civiletti, LLP, and is the head of that firm's Appellate Practice Group. Recently Venable served as counsel to Phil Karn during his dispute with the Department of State concerning export of a diskette containing the source code for cryptographic algorithms published in the book _Applied_ _Cryptography_, having already received permission to export the book. See http://isptv.digex.net/real.time.html for more information about "Real Time" Call-in questions will be taken during the show at (301) 847-6571. **** This video interview can be viewed on the ISP-TV main CU-SeeMe reflector at IP 205.197.248.54, or other ISP-TV affiliate reflectors listed at http://isptv.digex.net/members.html. See URL http://isptv.digex.net for more information about the ISP-TV Network To get email about future programming on ISP-TV, email the word "subscribe" to isptv-prog-request(a)isptv.digex.net. To obtain Enhanced CU-SeeMe software, go to: http://goliath.wpine.com/cudownload.htm

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Who's Censoring Who?
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sandy's e-mailed several of us who've sent messages about Vulis's ploy to put Sandy in a conflict-of-interest bind -- a well-known attack on moderators of all kinds, not just on the net. What's worth admiring is how Vulis has adeptly managed to get others -- targets and witting and unwitting cohorts -- to go along with his attack, attack, attack, by opposing or supporting it. A useful lesson. Smart dude, that Vulis, but no more so than others on the Net, say, Tim May, and in the world who've done the same elsewhere, maybe by even smarter dude(s) who provoked, angered, insulted, an unwitting Vulis, or May, to attack on behalf of ... But such deception is to be expected, along with feigned suprise and outrage at the unfairness of opponents fighting as dirty as one's own pure-blackhearts. Sandy's not censoring cypherpunks, nor is Vulis or May or any single person alone. As Pogo said, it's all of us, posters and lurkers and spooks, each trying to get one's way to prevail, under guise of a high principle not easily honored when the squeeze is on alone in a dark cell. Come on out Sandy, it was just a drill. It's probably worth saving accusations of censorship for the real thing, after trial usage here for what is truly nasty high-stakes global info-war gaming.

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sandy who??
by anand abhyankar 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

hi guys, i am a new addition on the mailing list. i am amazed to find that half the mails talk about "sandy (god knows who he is) and he censoring mails" rather than crypto stuff. somebody please let me know who sandy is and what exactly is this censoring issue. anand....

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