December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: [NOT NOISE] Microsoft Crypto Service Provider API
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:36 AM 12/18/96 -0800, geeman(a)best.com wrote: > >Microsoft had to agree to validate crypto binaries against >a signature to make sure they weren't tampered with, in >exchange for shipping crypto-with-a-hole. They will >sign anything (theoretically) if it has the export >papers and all. Or without, if you affadavit it is not >for export. > >They do not themselves impose any restrictions on crypto >strength. >I'm not expressing political position here, just conveying facts .... What if the software involved was IMPORTED? Moreover, is legal to export just the signature? Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: Ebonics
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:32 AM 12/23/96 +0000, Omegaman wrote: >> > from grammatically incorrect speech. I can speak with grammatic >> > perfection and a >> > drawl so heavy it'll make your eyeballs hurt. >> Yeah. I thought the issue was understanding in the workplace; no >> matter >> how gramatically correct your are, I can't understand you and so I >> won't hire you. > > >Re-read what I said carefully. I "*can* speak"... I can also speak >more clearly. The same holds true, for speakers of "ebonics." >and it is an insult to their intelligence to imply that they cannot >or cannot easily learn to. I am waiting for the "language police" to get ahold of Ebonics. I can just see inner city kids being told that they are not slurring their vowels properly or any other of a thousand obscure rules of language. Maybe the best way to kill a subculture's language is to codify it, regiment it, and then force it to be taught in the schools. What the hell this has to do with crypto, I have no idea... --- | "Spam is the Devil's toothpaste!" - stuart(a)teleport.com | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ |alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com|

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Re: "the world is half women..."
by Jazzmin Belle Sommers 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Dale Thorn and Tim May mutually blundered: >>Ya' know, guys, the world is half women, even though they're not on >>the c-punks list. Get in touch with them. They're fun people. >Ah, it's been a while since we had the "why aren't more women on the list?" >discussion. Frankly, women are of course welcome. If the list interests them, they are >welcome to subscribe. As it has always been. Oh, THANK YOU SO MUCH for discussing us in the third person. Guess what. There ARE women on the list (myself being one of them). (I thought that the men/women ratio was more like 46/54.) >That so few women are subscribers, or remain subscribers, or attend >Cypherpunks physical meetings....well, that's a larger issue involving >familiar issues: (chop -- those issues being libertarianism and other political nonsequiters.) (FYI: I'm a political science major and the secretary of the OU College Libertarians, neener neener.) >(I've explained crypto anarchy to many men and women over the past 6-8 >years. I've seen the guy's get agitated, or bothered, but usually >_interested_. I've seen eyes light up as they understand the likely >implications of untraceable payments, anonymous communications, avoidance >of Big Brother, etc. (CHOP CHOP) I think it's why we seem to have at most a couple of active women subscribers at any given moment.) This particular woman says that it's sooooo tiresome to wade through a lot of posturing and (even worse) the "me-toos" wherein people quote the entire post and then say, oh, yeah, I agree with that also. It's soooo easy to quit even reading the threads and just delete the whole thing. SUBTLE HINT MODE ON (Ah, so what do you propose, then, Miss Smartypants?) (AHEM! It's my brain that's smart, you lecher!) I'm on other lists and I've noticed that when they go to digest form much of the me-too-ness drops out. Is it that important to get 100 emails a day, if 80% of it is crap? Now, this part might sound more "womanish" -- it's nice to get an idea of the people posting, and have PRIVATE conversations. Most people don't care to see blanc and dale bash it out over fifteen posts. It's junk mail littering our in boxes! It's TASTELESS! ...furthermore, it's not cool. [Rabid soapboxing about what is and isn't cool omitted.] >So, Dale, feel free to recruit more women to this and other lists. But >don't presume from the traffic you see here--or from comments about the >utter stupidity of little Jessica Dubroff, her pilot, her parents, and the >complicitous news media--that we need a lecture on getting in touch with >women. Oh, yes you do. Consider yourself lectured. Stick to the topics, or stray on a RELATED subject. Jess Dubroff ISN'T. Complicitous news media IS. ENOUGH! No followup posts! Take my advice and smoke it! Er, wait. That doesn't sound right. And for those of you who are just WAITING to flame me, don't bother. I'm not a feminazi, not an "uppity woman", just a chick who'll {spontaneous hot-tempered threats deleted upon second thought}. Email privately if you care to respond. Jazz Sommers

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Certified primes
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Timmy `C' May is a certified sexual pervert who wears women's underwear. \\\ (0 0) _ooO_(_)_Ooo____ Timmy `C' May

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Re: Ebonics
by Mark Rosen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> 1. What do you mean conclude? For whom? I mean conclude. For me. I am the authority on all. I am just personally a little sick of this Ebonics thing, as we have obviously irreconcilable positions. I tried to take a concilliatory position with which all would agree. It has little to do with cryptography and is a stretch even for this generally weird mailing list. > 2. Rather than hypothesize a "standard" language, the language evolves > and generates the standard. Just relax and enjoy it. No. I'm right and you're wrong. Face it. :-) > 3. Black people are/are not stupider than what? Mark, you should go > live in the deep South for awhile, and become part of it, and > watch the outsiders come in and tell your friends and neighbors on > the TV, on radio, and in in-person seminars that they speak "wrongly" > and should lose their Southern "accents", as though they were something > to be ashamed of. > > Mark, you need to learn simple logic. Instead of saying "...are often > difficult to understand", you should say "...are often difficult for > *me* to understand". I personally have no problem understanding Southern accents. Other people have stated that they have problems understanding Ebonics, so I was just playing devil's advocate and taking another, conflicting position. I sense that one of the reasons why *some* people are so disgusted with Ebonics is that only black people speak it. I am just responding to those racist sentiments (Ahem. Timothy May) and trying to present a white example of muddled speech. Also, the entire issue of clarity of speech is relative and *will* be different for each person, another thing many people are ignoring. > You see, Mark, I could understand you in speech I am sure, and I can > also understand the Southern speech by-and-large, but it's you who > seems to have the limitations. Now you want to force people who don't > talk like you to talk like you, otherwise you won't deal with them. > > What a petty, narrow-minded person you must be, and how sad. Again, I was being devil's advocate and imitating other people's distaste with Ebonics. Your rather biting comments describe their narrow mindedness.

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Re: [NOT NOISE] Microsoft Crypto Service Provider API
by geeman＠best.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Software that is imported becomes subject to ITAR with respect to re-exportation, of course (but of course IANALetc.) If you can't demonstrate to MSFT that you are playing by the rules --such that you have the proper export papers for your code if you plan to export it, for example-- they won't sign, even if developed outside US. So: you develop a CSP outside US ... you have to IMPORT it to get it signed. It becomes subject at that point to ITAR export regs. Unless you demonstrate that you fulfull those requirements, no signature. So there's no relief by looking at just exporting the signature. ? At 07:21 PM 12/22/96 -0800, you wrote: >At 07:36 AM 12/18/96 -0800, geeman(a)best.com wrote: >> >>Microsoft had to agree to validate crypto binaries against >>a signature to make sure they weren't tampered with, in >>exchange for shipping crypto-with-a-hole. They will >>sign anything (theoretically) if it has the export >>papers and all. Or without, if you affadavit it is not >>for export. >> >>They do not themselves impose any restrictions on crypto >>strength. >>I'm not expressing political position here, just conveying facts .... > >What if the software involved was IMPORTED? Moreover, is legal to export >just the signature? > >Jim Bell >jimbell(a)pacifier.com > >

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Mr. May's Posts. Other Things.
by Ross Wright 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On or About 21 Dec 96 at 10:36, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: > Interesting. Paul Bradley does not consider Timmy May's (fart) > latest rants on "ebonics" and "colored race" to be racist? I think > Timmy May hates blacks even more than he hates Jews. Let's quote > Timmy's sick garbage on soc.culture.african.american and ask if they > find it offensive and racist. > Yes, Dr., this latest tripe that has spewed forth from Tim's keyboard reeks of bigotry. And all this time I felt you may have been too hard on him. This latest rant of his has made me reconsider your rough treatment of Mr. May. I kinda think he deserves a slapping right now. I find Mr. Mays comments quite racist and are quite off topic for this list. I would much rather talk about what rights I have to do bulk, targeted e-mailings! Or the fame of "The Spam King" I saw him on a TV show called The Web on the SciFi channel. This guy is a great example of the old adage that there is no such thing as bad publicity. Just my two cents. It's been too long since I last posted, but I was compelled to post about this racist crap. I went to an inner-city school in South Gate, California and found it better to be friendly with anyone who would be my friend, despite the color of their skin. I went into the US Military and that idea was reinforced there. So I hate to hear people who are unwilling to find humanity behind a darker color skin. That just pisses me off! Ross =-=-=-=-=-=- Ross Wright King Media: Bulk Sales of Software Media and Duplication Services http://www.slip.net/~cdr/kingmedia Voice: 415-206-9906

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Super Crypto
by Erase56＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Can someone help me on finding a program with super crypto. E-mail me back at Erase56(a)aol.com with the program attatched or e-mail me on where can I find it. On the internet of where ever. Thanks.

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Re: the word is "NIGGAZ"
by aga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sun, 22 Dec 1996, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: > >From cypherpunks-errors(a)toad.com Sun Dec 22 18:36:40 1996 > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: Re: the word is "NIGGAZ" > Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Precedence: bulk > > > Actually the word is "niggus." "Niggaz" is the white man's nasal rendition > of this term. Nope, that is from the black man. In JET Magazine, they say "NIGGAZ," and they are the nationwide authority on the black subculture. If you do not read JET, you do not know anything about the blacks, unless you live next to them like we do in the city here. "Soul Brothers" hate "niggers," because a "nigger" is defined as somebody who: 1) lies, 2) cheats, 3) steals, 4) stinks, or 5) fucks with your woman. There are good blacks and bad niggers, good jews and bad kikes good dagos and bad wops good gay boys and bad faggots good ladies and bad cunts good and bad of all kind...

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Privtool 0.87
by Mark Grant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've finally released a new version of Privtool -- my PGP-aware X-windows mailreader for Linux, SunOS, FreeBSD and Solaris. Version 0.86 is available on utopia.hacktic.nl in the incoming directory (and possibly elsewhere) and I'll be uploading 0.87 shortly. For more details and screenshots see http://www.c2.org/~mark/privtool/privtool.html. Mark -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Privtool Beta Release 0.87 -------------------------- Privtool ("Privacy Tool") is intended to be a PGP-aware replacement for the standard Sun Workstation mailtool program, with a similar user interface and automagick support for PGP-signing and PGP-encryption. Just to make things clear, I have written this program from scratch, it is *not* a modified mailtool (and I'd hope that the Sun program code is much cleaner than mine 8-) !). When the program starts up, it displays a list of messages in your mailbox, along with flags to indicate whether messages are signed or encrypted, and if they have had their signatures verified or have been decrypted. When you double click on a message, it will be decrypted (requesting your passphrase if neccesary), and/or will have the signature checked, and the decrypted message will be displayed in the top part of the display window, with signature information in the bottom part. The mail header is not displayed, but can be read by pressing the 'Header' button to display the header window. In addition, the program has support for encrypted mailing list feeds, and if the decrypted message includes another standard-format message it will replace the original message and be fed back into the display processing chain. When composing a message or replying to one, the compose window has several check-boxes, including one for signature, and one for encryption. If these are selected, then the message will be automatically encrypted and/or signed (requesting your passphrase when neccesary) before it is sent. You may also select a 'Remail' box, which will use the Mixmaster anonymous remailer client program to send the message through one or more remailers. Being an Beta release, there are a number of bugs and unimplemented features. Known Bugs: None reported. Unimplmented features: When you save changes to the mail file, it throws away the signature verification and decrypted messages, so that the next time you view a message it has to be verified or decrypted again. Currently if you send encrypted mail to multiple recipients, all must have valid encrpytion keys otherwise you will have to send the message decrypted. Also, the message will be sent encrypted to all users, not just the one who is receiving each copy. Code should be more modular to assist with ports to Xt, Motif (under way), Mac, Windows, etc. I may port it to C++ in the near future. Not very well documented! Encrypted messages are saved to mail files in encrypted form. There is currently no option to save messages in decrypted form. No support for anonymous return addresses. Not very well tested on Solaris 2.x, or SunOS. No support for attachments (either Sun, uuencode or MIME). Changes for 0.87: Added support for signature files. Solaris patches for 0.86 from Glenn Trigg -- as usual a few bugs crept in because I couldn't test it on all operating systems. Added Vincent Cojot's (coyote(a)step.polymtl.ca) new icons for Linux. Some versions of Unix are set up to have mail programs setgid mail, and give write access to /usr/spool/mail only to mail and root. This caused hangs when saving changes. I've now incorporated changes which allow Linux to run privtool setgid mail, and these should work on FreeBSD. Fixed a number of compile-time warnings. Only display the compose window *after* it's been filled with data. This should prevent the time-consuming scrolling update which used to occur. Allow the user to specify the organization in their header. Changes for 0.86: Optionally use /dev/audio to supplement the random number generation code. Anders Baekgaard fixed a few bugs that sneaked in at the last minute, updating the header window, parsing dates, compose window layout, and SEGV when tabbing between fields on the compose window. Gregory Margo (gmargo(a)newton.vip.best.com) provided multiple display windows. Tony Gialluca (tony(a)hgc.edu) made some of the compose window buttons work. Fixed some file descriptor leaks in pgplib.c. On Linux we now read the contents of a number of files under /proc, and use these as an additional source of random data (e.g. /proc/interrupts, /proc/meminfo). Added 'Reseed Random' menu option, which will reseed the random number generator at any time. If possible this will come from the audio device and/or the /proc files. Added FreeBSD patch from Stuart Arnold (sja(a)epo.e-mail.com) See README.FREEBSD for more information. No longer destroy compose windows when you select 'Done'! Graphical properties window added. I've lost the address of the person who did the original work, so if it was you then please contact me! This was expanded and incorporated into 0.86 by Scott Cannon (rscott(a)silver.cal.sdl.usu.edu) Fixed memory corruption in pgplib.c. Limited support for secret keys on floppy disks. Allow users to specify their domain name and reply-to: header lines. Privtool can be compiled to either use PGP Tools, or to fork off a copy of PGP whenever it is needed. There are also a number of different security level options for the passphrase, varying from 'read it from PGPPASS and keep it in memory' to 'request it every time and delete it as soon as possible', via 'request it when neccesary and delete it if it's not used for a while'. I've now patched PGP Tools for Linux. The code is available on utopia.hacktic.nl as pgptools.linux.1.0.tar.gz. See the README file for information on compiling the code, and the user.doc file for user documentation (the little that currently exists). You should also ensure that you read the security concerns section in user.doc before using the program. Mark Grant (mark(a)unicorn.com) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBMr0+o1VvaTo9kEQVAQEfiQf6A1ZKDVijf/65NXDTVvsMw9G3nmjqNK4F mrIJiyoWr3KX66SbC6nSfWKtpjjZFi2R0633BGNA2kVqCpyk5F5UXTZMAXYzVhP6 f9drmWOsThdh07vpVuK2W96W/cpPh3m+Jhzp2pDpUWN0MNgX6ZmNsJzoSng8DmK9 YTERh93ZQ7rrBM6mMsz6ASEzpcu5grH0teAQdbvWHYEguwDn2K2hn1oTcuVXw74C UFDmx5I86Flfk0nfahldefHO5aSI4fSe+bs7vrZdIRVK60YSxw1dIFYv89bGJAQZ AfZxchmbMVtTBgI4/B1Lziqr/EJ1QI9+FH+LA7XQSmSWm0QFi5Rz9A== =6g9Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- "[Hollywood's] way is so slow and expensive that you'll find yourself falling asleep on the set and forgetting to say 'action'." - Robert Rodriguez, 'The Ten Minute Film School' |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| |Mark Grant M.A., U.L.C. EMAIL: mark(a)unicorn.com | |WWW: http://www.c2.org/~mark MAILBOT: bot(a)unicorn.com | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|

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