December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Netscape sig's...
by harka＠nycmetro.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Here's something, that found it's way into my mailbox and might be of interest... In> SOFT> SecureWeb Documents: digitally signed documents -- FREE In> Netscape Navigator plug-in In> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 19:13:28 -0600 In> From: info(a)terisa.com In> http://www.terisa.com/ In> About SecureWeb Documents In> By using standard digital ID's (x509.v3 certificates), SecureWeb In> Documents can affix a digital signature to an electronic document. The In> result is impossible to alter or falsify without detection, unlike a In> written signature. Harka /*************************************************************/ /* This user supports FREE SPEECH ONLINE * */ /* and PRIVATE ONLINE COMMUNICATIONS! * * */ /* * * */ /* E-mail: harka(a)nycmetro.com * * */ /* * */ /* Finger or E-Mail for PGP public key. * * */ /* Key Size: 2047 / KeyID: 04174301 * * */ /* Fingerprint: FD E4 F8 6D C1 6A 44 F5 http://www.eff.org */ /* 28 9C 40 6E B8 94 78 E8 */ /*<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*/ /* May there be peace in this world, may all anger dissolve */ /* and may all living beings find the way to happiness... */ /*************************************************************/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAgUBMtxBYjltEBIEF0MBAQFFIwf+NBtJ76gj+jhD28q1KHgv1HiTSLcP1xIg ZCC779HJ29IM+imWFiqgv58HrGRva1lhMl9l0+DbWdS01muSeNAUuht+QlOY+ys8 9MPlsaTg2v0kEAE6+OQwWLs3C4HvlCBqbHIJubRTz+B4I3XP9pkRRc8VTO8INroA u5C+PF+t3QHWinpnmR/uwrdJWohKG6Ioh9U5MdZWkF+ks84Y3uKGQDIxLsGv5xjZ LI5u4OH7GjhuBNkuZgSoIm528dSmzPaYQk6sYJaSP2uz2HYnCEdfkE2/2+IRFn9m AvgQPDUXHslTsF3m0O0/0XwG29X0KemyERnBuYYso2JoI0O/2pBiKg== =/F/w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption...

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Debt-Freedom!
by darrington＠debtfree.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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RE: soc.culture.belarus
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From belarus(a)solar.rtd.utk.edu Thu Jan 16 04:36:38 1997 Received: by bwalk.dm.com (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Thu, 16 Jan 97 06:36:05 EST for dlv Received: from [198.78.213.165] by uu.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA10669 for dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com; Thu, 16 Jan 97 04:36:38 -0500 Message-Id: <9701160936.AA10669(a)uu.psi.com> Received: from (LOCALHOST.rtd.utk.edu) by solar.rtd.utk.edu; Thu, 16 Jan 97 04:33:28 EST Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 04:33:28 EST Errors-To: kasaty(a)seanet.com Reply-To: belarus(a)solar.rtd.utk.edu Originator: belarus(a)solar.rtd.utk.edu Sender: belarus(a)solar.rtd.utk.edu Precedence: bulk From: "GWDVMS::IFEDCHE" <ifedche(a)gwdvms.dnet.gwdg.de> To: Multiple recipients of list <belarus(a)solar.rtd.utk.edu> Subject: RE: soc.culture.belarus X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0b -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: BELARUS issues and communication :Can anyone tell me if soc.culture.belarus is still active? I have not been able to access this newsgroup for a while now and my service provider hasn't answered my question about this. I originally had to make a request to the ISP to carry the newsgroup but after that, it was ok. I hope it's only coincidental that I lost contact only about one day after I placed a posting on the newsgroup. Barry J Hilchey, <bhilchey(a)sympatico.ca> PO Box 668, St Marys, Ontario, N4X 1B6, Canada: I donn't know exactly what happend to that group, but some time ago I had e-mail exchange with one of the moderators. He complained that they (5 persons or so) are sweating day and night moderating incoming postings. It might be, therefore, that this honorable job of censorship starved this people to death. Igor Fedchenia

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Re: ARKANSAS BANS PHONE SCRAMBLERS
by thad＠hammerhead.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

jcr(a)idiom.com ("John C. Randolph") quotes Charles R. Smith > IMMEDIATE ATTENTION > The Arkansas Police have declared that is is illegal to own, use, or > possess RSU product #11265113, a fully assembled > descrambler/scrambler, in the State of Arkansas. Tandy Corporation's > legal department is researching this and the product has been removed > from RSU distribution. DO NOT take order or sell this product until > this situation can be resolved. I called the Arkansas State Police, 501-221-8200, to try to verify this, and they're "going to have somebody call me back." I'm not holding my breath... If anybody has a definative source on this, I'd love to see it; it's mindboggling. thad -- Thaddeus Beier thad(a)hammerhead.com Visual Effects Supervisor 408) 287-6770 Hammerhead Productions http://www.got.net/people/thad

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Re: Debunking rumors -- Re: ARKANSAS BANS PHONE SCRAMBLERS
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Declan McCullagh wrote: > >> Time to debunk this rumor. >> I just spoke with the Arkansas state police, who told me: >> "It wasn't put out by the state police. [If anything] it must be a city >> ordinance from some city. That state police definitely didn't do it." >> -Declan >> >jcr(a)idiom.com ("John C. Randolph") quotes Charles R. Smith >> >> IMMEDIATE ATTENTION >> >> The Arkansas Police have declared that is is illegal to own, use, or >> >> possess RSU product #11265113, a fully assembled >> >> descrambler/scrambler, in the State of Arkansas. Tandy Corporation's >> >> legal department is researching this and the product has been removed >> >> from RSU distribution. DO NOT take order or sell this product until >> >> this situation can be resolved. >> > >> >I called the Arkansas State Police, 501-221-8200, to try to verify this, >> >and they're "going to have somebody call me back." I'm not holding my >> >breath... >> > >> >If anybody has a definative source on this, I'd love to see it; it's >> >mindboggling. >> > >> >thad The strangest part of this story is that I haven't even heard of the product they've described above. The number given sounds like a serial number, NOT a product number. Somehow, I think that it would have been covered around here by now if it were real. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: Homo/bi/sexuals Most Destructive
by aga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

An excellent Article here, pointing out why everybody should shun homosexuals to be safe and healthy. On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote: > When it comes to AIDS, unless there are facts to invalidate the following > information, it is evident that the homo/bi/sexual lifestyle is > overwhelmingly the most destructive among those listed: > > "Who Are The Patients? > "In the United States, homosexual and bisexual males make up > approximately 62 percent of the total patients. The other major group > afflicted with AIDS are intravenous drug abusers -- both men and women -- > who constitute 20 percent of the total. . . ." > > "ADULTS AND ADOLESCENTS WITH AIDS, 1981-87 > ================================== Males % Females % Both sexes % > Homosexual/bisexual males 50,325 68 0 50,325 62 > Intravenous (IV) drug abusers 12,529 17 3,622 52 16,151 20 > Homosexual male an IV drug abusers 5,874 8 5,874 7 > Hemophilia/coagulation disorder 751 1 22 0 773 1 > Heterosexuals 1,516 2 2,073 30 3,589 4 > Blood transfusion 1,297 2 747 11 2,044 3 > Undetermined (1) 2,143 3 519 7 2,662 3 > TOTAL 74,435 91 6,983 9 81,418 100 > ========================================================================= > "Note: Provisional data. Cases with more than one risk factor than the > combinations listed are tabulated only in the category listed first. > (1) Includes patients on whom risk information is incomplete, patients > still under investigation, men reported only to have had heterosexual > contact with a prostitute, and patients for whom no specific risk was > identified; also includes one health care worker who developed AIDS after > a documented needle-stick to blood. Source: Centers for Disease Control." > ========================================================================= > Cited in "The Universal Almanac 1990", Andrews and McMeel, 1989. > ========================================================================= > > Readers are invited to post data supporting or opposing the above. > > Jai Maharaj > jai(a)mantra.com > Om Shanti >

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Re: ARKANSAS BANS PHONE SCRAMBLERS
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> The Arkansas Police have declared that is is illegal to own, use, or > possess RSU product #11265113, a fully assembled > descrambler/scrambler, in the State of Arkansas. Yee-hah! I'm guessing that it's probably illegal because the police use them for "secret" conversations, or some such silliness, and don't want Bad Guys to be able to eavesdrop on what's probably a trivially analog-scrambled phone-garbler. Perhaps them good ol' boys have some more devious reason, or even have a law backing them up, but probably not. How soon do you think it'll be before they start busting people for Radio Shack Equipment Smuggling? Why, next thing you know there'll be people sneakin' across the border from Texarkana with pickmeup-truck loads full o' contraband encryption gear as well as the usual Lone Star Beer cans in the back. If I were Radio Shack, and the state did this to me after the police bought a bunch of them for police use, I'd be real upset. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)

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Privacy Issue (ANI in SF Bay Area)
by Ryan Russell/SYBASE 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here's something cute: Yesterday PacBell turned on ANI on our trunk groups, for local area calls. On their own, mind you, without request from us. If you call anyone here with a display phone, it displays your number, even if you have caller-id blocking on or you do a *70 (for those who don't know, ANI is not caller-id, you can't block your number from being displayed with ANI.) It also grabs your phone number if you leave a voice mail, so even folks without display phones can benefit. I post this thinking it may be of interest. I actually disagree that people ought to be able to block their number. My feeling is that if someone is calling me, they have no right be anonymous. Of course, I realize that this is easy to defeat with call forwarding and such.. In fact, if I call you from my work phone..you won't see my direct dial number...you'll see a number for PacBell's trunk group. Now...I just have to figure out how PacBell is charging us.. if it's .01$ per call like regular ANI...at 100,000 calls per day.. Hmm...first fix is free? A new PacBell marketing program? Our CIO loves the new "feature." Ryan

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Virus
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi all, Check out, Virus Bill Buchanan ISBN 0-515-12011-1 $6.50 paperback Very interesting book about adaptive technology and one possible 'alternate' future. May not be technicaly correct but then again, what prediction is. On a related note (at least future tech predictions), I saw the new book put out by Wired on this issue (don't remember the exact title) in the science section of BookStop. It belongs in the sci-fi section. A bigger pile of wishfull thinking with no realistic view of either technology or society doesn't come to mind immediately. Is definately not a 'buy it'. "For a succesful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature will not be fooled." Richard Feynman Jim Choate CyberTects ravage(a)ssz.com ps check out www.srl.org for the Austin show on March 28, 1997.

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Re: DCSB: The Internet Consumer -- 1996 in Review & Predictions for 1997
by ed.falk＠Eng.Sun.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > Robert Hettinga wrote: > > I fished this out of my killfile. Ironically, I had just plonked Toto > > yesterday because I saw no compelling merit in anything he has posted to > > cypherpunks since he got here, and given the quantity of his posts, he was > > starting to waste my attention. However, this morning, as my mail was > > coming down in Eudora, I saw that he had replied to this month's DCSB > > announcement, and, frankly, I knew that it had to be something like this. > > Why do people feel compelled to 'explain' how they 'chanced' > to read items in their 'killfile'? It always seems to me to be > for the purpose of insulting someone while keeping egg off of > their own face. Well, I can't speak for R.H., but in my own case, my KILLfile entries typically look like /toto/f:=:j which displays the subject lines as it junks the articles. Sometimes I'll see one go by which interests me, so I'll go back and read it anyway. Similarly, people who've been plonked are often quoted in somebody else's message, so I see it anyway.

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