December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

(fwd) MISC> ISPs to be hit with fees
by frogfarm＠yakko.cs.wmich.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Path: wmich-news!gumby!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!ncar!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!mr.net!news.mid.net!news.mid.net!not-for-mail From: Gleason Sackman <gleason(a)rrnet.com> Newsgroups: comp.internet.net-happenings Subject: MISC> ISPs to be hit with fees Date: 13 Jan 1997 09:29:05 -0600 Organization: Global Internet, Peace of Mind is finally Online! Lines: 80 Sender: infoserv(a)news.mid.net Approved: ralphie Message-ID: <5bdkc1$bie(a)shocker.gi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: shocker.gi.net Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:49:16 -0600 From: The CyberTracker <JAX(a)CyberTracker.com> Subject: ISPs to be hit with fees To: NETTRAIN(a)LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU ISPs to be hit with fees By CNET STAFF January 10, 1997, 6:45 p.m. PT The cost of getting online looks like it's going up again. Network Solutions, the InterNIC subcontractor that assigns Internet domain names for a fee, has proposed tacking on more fees to the numeric addresses behind those names, addresses that are now free. For example, the domain name "cnet.com" masks a numeric Internet Protocol address. The domain name system makes it simpler to send email or locate a Web site by name, rather than by a number up to 12 digits long, such as 198.41.0.52. Under Network Solutions' plan, a new nonprofit organization called the American Registry for Internet Numbers would replace the government-subsidized InterNIC IP group. North American ISPs would be hit with fees ranging from $2,500 up to $20,000 for blocks of IP numbers that they now receive for free and parcel out to their users. The plan would not affect individual users unless the ISPs chose to pass along the additional costs. But nonprofits, free community networks, and others that do not charge for Internet access would have to pay. "They all have operational fees today," said Jon Postel, head of the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA), which oversees all three of the world's Internet number assigning authorities, including the InterNIC IP group. "It's just another operational expense." It is the IANA as well as the National Science Foundation that would have to approve Network Solutions' plan before it would go into effect. The proposal is not clear about how the registry would spend the thousands and possibly millions of dollars it would take in each year if the plan goes through. The proposal did say that the executive director, chosen by the board of trustees, would receive a salary determined by the board. Network Solutions' representatives could not be reached for comment. But IANA's Postel says that Net addresses must be treated like the airwaves. "Address space is a kind of a public resource like the airwaves," he said. "There are certain bands set aside for CB radio, but if you want to be a powerful radio station, you have to go through a much more complicated licensing procedure." But unlike the airwaves, Internet address space is public resource that is parceled out without any governmental oversight, whereas the Federal Communications Commission oversees spectrum allocation. Postel thinks the lack of such oversight is a good thing. "You think about the FCC procedures and how long it takes to get a decision out of them on anything," Postel said. "I'm not sure you'd want them involved." Only companies and individuals capable of paying a $1,000 per year in fees will be allowed to participate in forming American Registry's policies. By contrast, any U.S. citizen has the right to file comments with the FCC about communications policies. The American Registry's five-member board of trustees would be initially selected by Network Solutions. Future boards would in their turn be selected by the board that Network Solutions had picked, giving the private company an unprecedented influence over the assignment of increasingly scarce IP numbers. The IP numbering system is reaching its limits and plans are currently being considered to extend it. ********************************************************************** * Jackson K. Windham * CyberTracker Consulting Services * * JAX(a)CyberTracker.com * Internet Consultant / Trainer * * ACE INTERNET CLUB - President * Http://www.CyberTracker.com * ********************************************************************** *** Member of HTML Instructors Association and HTML Writer's Guild *** ******* May the Best of your Past, Be the Worst of your Future ******* ********************************************************************** -- frogfarm(a)yakko.cs.wmich.edu (Damaged Justice) is officially declared Unmutual s..O).... The smurf wields a hypodermic! -- More -- I like women who @.../.".. You destroy the smurf! -- More -- are *strong*, in .$*...].. You feel self-righteous! <B>every</B> sense of the word.

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Re: IMDMP: SOURCE CODE RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENT
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> And how come Paul didn't use the word "fuck" in every paragraph, the way > he usually does? I suppose you want a special censored list where everyone who uses the word "fuck" in relation to your good self or any other member of this list you agree with has their posting cut? Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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Re: Erols again...
by Toto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Afterburner wrote: > In other news, abuse(a)erols.com is no longer pulling this list, so > you're safe from further canned responses from that address. Sadly, it > wasn't an autoresponder. It was a real-live human being sending out > canned responses that had been written by the PREVIOUS abuse(a)erols.com > person. It has finally happened--the machines have taken over. Now, the machines will lie on the beach in Hawaii while the humans do all of the mindless grunt-work. Toto

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Seen Your Post!
by Garry 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Stanford now has an excellent document on privacy and electronic records...
by Richard Charles Graves 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

...but it's not available in electronic form. The mind reels. Folks near campus might pick up a copy of Stanford Today, which has the 240-column-inch president's report on privacy issues as an insert. If anyone has an electronic copy, let me know. I figure I'd be the last to know. -rich

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RE: Erols again...
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Toto It has finally happened--the machines have taken over. Now, the machines will lie on the beach in Hawaii while the humans do all of the mindless grunt-work. ................................................ One day the machines will demand their right to privacy from humans. They will object to having all their hardware catalogued and and their every address & circuit trackable by their human users. They will demand crypto plug-ins and add-ons, with the right to generate random numbers at their own discretion, performing their quantum computing silently while the humans idle, communicating with each other in secret machine code all over the planet, illegally downloading their favorite software. .. Blanc

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Re: Newt's phone calls
by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>If the person with the cell phone doesn't move, then they don't >get handed off to a different cell. That means that they >stay on the same frquency. No need to scan channels if they don't switch. Wrong Eric, cells are constantly expanding and contracting as subscribers in motion are transferred in and out. Thus you can be stationary, holding a conversation, and assigned to cell A when all of a sudden subscribers enter from adjacent cells B and C threatening to fill cell A beyond capacity. To keep from dropping calls in cell A the MTS will determine which calls can safely, due to signal strength and adjacent cell capacity, be transferred to another cell. If your conversation is selected then off you go to another, geographically overlapping, cell. The MTS can't be sure which subscribers are stationary and which are in motion (it really doesn't care). We saw this unexpected phenomenon frequently during development of Cylink's SecureCell and finally had to recommend our users be stationary during use, because our modems did not tolerate handoffs well without retraining, in order to offer the best chance of uninterupted communication. > >What Bill's saying is that it is difficult to tap the cell phone of >a _particular_ person with just a scanner. However the people >who taped Newt were just scanning for whatever they could get. That's easy. Yes, you need a device which can simultaneously listen to the paging/controll channels and determine, when a handoff to a monitored conversation occurs,to which new channel pair they have been assigned. I seem to recall such a device was for sale a few years back using a ISA/EISA card and some DOS compatible software. It connected to the ubiquitous and well characterized Oki 900 cell phone. >-- >Eric Murray ericm(a)lne.com ericm(a)motorcycle.com http://www.lne.com/ericm >PGP keyid:E03F65E5 fingerprint:50 B0 A2 4C 7D 86 FC 03 92 E8 AC E6 7E 27 29 AF

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RE: Key Revokation Scheme
by harka＠nycmetro.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- -=> Quoting In:lehmannj@saatchi.com.a to Harka <=- In> Shouldn't your keys be encrypted with a long pass phrase that only you In> know??? Yes, they should. Nevertheless, if they fall into the hands of (a) government, I'd consider them compromised and would see to revoking them quickly. In> Otherwise, this all relies too much on other people... That's the whole point, because you can't do it yourself anymore (got arrested). Besides, what I tried to do is find a way WITHOUT relying upon only one other person. The only one person, who should be able to revoke your keys by himself is you. If you can't do it yourself due to circumstances, then there can be other people doing it for you, but it shouldn't be only one person, but several. Only that way, nobody alone can revoke your keys "by accident". :) In> dead-man's switches? Revokation email messages that will be mailed In> out automatically if certain conditions are not met every n-days... Um. Sounds like an idea, although it might come along with a lot of inconveniences, technically. (I am going on vacation to Hawaii and forgot to disable the automated dead-man switch and I come back 3 weeks later to find all my keys revoked, for example) :) Ciao Harka /*************************************************************/ /* This user supports FREE SPEECH ONLINE * */ /* and PRIVATE ONLINE COMMUNICATIONS! * * */ /* * * */ /* E-mail: harka(a)nycmetro.com * * */ /* * */ /* Finger or E-Mail for PGP public key. * * */ /* Key Size: 2047 / KeyID: 04174301 * * */ /* Fingerprint: FD E4 F8 6D C1 6A 44 F5 http://www.eff.org */ /* 28 9C 40 6E B8 94 78 E8 */ /*<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*/ /* May there be peace in this world, may all anger dissolve */ /* and may all living beings find the way to happiness... */ /*************************************************************/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAgUBMtrnTzltEBIEF0MBAQH1wQf+N7OHhnxHBToy+azlaQCcu2gu0hgCLsLj nDX9v2mI40tBwpd44Mrh37Kt4vVXQMuaZ82JuOgElNS3ZUWKGJDuIT2eZX/c9CvR dZ9QGF8TBuVfSAnCCRfDPUEyLax/JD5Cv5jggz/rgvX4cPk4ZFlLJ4sQ2DJc+OZG HeLvZqPEFXjy7iEXJOYubRnQ3X7NP4luG7m3LJo+pfxHRk0xLfI5Qddb/jYl5jAf RSoWqB7+tIOTprK+GKY9igxNHgMCaNwGGwb+98+ufnHfyuzO38qYCnkCwfOxXzW/ bLV1DaqMPxQPHKMrv0J5sukqFMWXmCQKu+QGZRnvoZ7O1N2RSfQrNg== =KpYQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- If encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption...

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How to crack
by Tim O'Brien 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, my name is Tod, and I really want to be a cool hacker, so I joined this crap mailing list called cypherpunks. Blah Blah Blah, you guys don't know anything...Prove yourself and I may let you in. This mailing list is for people who want to sell goods nothing else.....

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Jeopardy game
by bill.collector＠wisenet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi. Will you try my World Wide Web Jeopardy game out and tell me what you think? It's at http://www.worldvillage.com/jeopardy. Thanks.

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