December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: We won the Bernstein case.
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Simon Spero <ses(a)tipper.oit.unc.edu> writes: > On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Bruce Schneier wrote: > > > John Gilmore just called me. There should be info on it on the EFF website > > real soon now. > > shehechianu vekiyemanu hevigianu lazman hazeh... No wonder Jewhater Timmy May (fart) is rapidly approaching apoplexy! Omeyn. There probably will be an orgy at the NYC punks meeting tonight, which I'm not going to attend, not being a queer "cypher punk". > So does this mean that anything can be exported as long as it's in source > code, or is object code covered as well? Try to find Judge Patel's district on the map. Hint: North California is covered, North Carolina (and North Dakota) ain't. > Simon > > --- > Queen's Own Cypherpunk Regiment / 82nd Chairborne - Gilmour's Irregulars Pathetic queens indeed. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: controlling web "cookies"
by Andrew Loewenstern 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[note, I have rerouted this thread from coderpunks to cypherpunks where it is more appropriate...] Adam Shostack writes: > Posting hacks like this, while fun, tells the bad guys > (in Washington) how we're going to bypass their next > bits of nonsense. > A number of cute hacks posted to cypherpunks after > Clipper II were defended against in Clipper III. So > don't post your cute hacks against systems until they're ok'd > by the government or deployed. Part of the reason past Clipper schemes haven't been deployed is because they had been shown not to work! I say if there are weak spots, keep punching holes in them. While Washington is spinning around trying to come up with a new-and-improved version, keep deploying good strong crypto and working the free-speech/civil-liberties angle in the courts. By the GAKers come up with a workable solution (which is probably impossible given the politics involved in global-GAK) it will be too late. andrew

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"Cryptography Policy and the Information Economy" draft available
by Matt Blaze 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've got a new draft available of my critique of US cryptography policy and its impact on the future of the "information economy". It summarizes comments I made to a recent meeting of the Computer and Communications Industry Association, and is an updated version of testimony I gave to the Senate commerce committee earlier this year. Postscript is at ftp://ftp.research.att.com/dist/mab/policy.ps ASCII text is at ftp://ftp.research.att.com/dist/mab/policy.txt -matt

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Bernstein (export laws unconstitutional) decision update
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The full text of the decision is available at: http:/www.eff.org/pub/Privacy/ITAR_export/Bernstein_case/Legal/961206.decision It's still full of scannos, but we wanted to get it out to you-all ASAP. After further consultations with the attorneys, we are not sure whether the decision has nationwide impact or whether it is limited to the Northern District of California (which includes SF and Silicon Valley). Your Mileage May Vary -- check with your lawyer. I hear from reporters that the Administration plans to announce its reaction to the case this evening. John

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Phil Zimmermann interviewed by Brock Meeks on ISP-TV
by ISP-TV Main Contact 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

*** ISP-TV Program Announcement: MEEKS UNFILTERED WITH PHIL ZIMMERMANN DECEMBER 25, 1996 Few men have influenced the face of public cryptography in this decade as much as Phil Zimmermann, creator of the PGP encryption software program and Chairman of the Board and Chief Technical Officer of the Pretty Good Privacy corporation. Public cryptography, however, is more than just clever software. It has become a battleground for individual privacy and the role of the government in having access to private communications. For three years, Zimmermann was the target of a criminal investigation by the US Customs Service, who assumed that United States munitions export laws were broken when PGP spread outside the US. The investigation was finally closed in January 1996, without any charges being filed. Far from being silenced, Zimmermann is now a respected voice for Netziens and privacy advocates, frequently called upon by the media and Congress for his views. Please join ISP-TV and "Meeks Unfiltered" on December 25, 1996, at 8 PM ET for a 30 minute interview between Brock N. Meeks, publisher of CyberWire Dispatch, and Phil Zimmermann. We'd like to call it our Christmas gift to the Net. This video interview can be viewed on the ISP-TV main CU-SeeMe reflector at IP 205.197.247.33, or other ISP-TV affiliate reflectors listed at http://www.digex.net/isptv/members.html See URL http://www.digex.net/isptv for more information about the ISP-TV Network. To obtain Enhanced CU-SeeMe software, go to: http://goliath.wpine.com/cudownload.htm

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Re: Code+Data separation
by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Allowing code and data to reside in the same areas of memory is >a nice convenience, but it makes security harder to implement >because it means code is modifiable and data can be created which >just happens to do bad things if it is executed. > >Are there any modern processors which keep the code and data separated? > >Peter Hendrickson >ph(a)netcom.com I believe those that follow a Harvard architecture do this. -- Steve

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Re: EFF: Bernstein court declares crypto restrictions unconstitutiona
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

jai(a)mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj) writes: > On Thu, 19 Dec 96 11:37:58 EST, > in message <Z2Z7yD10w165w(a)bwalk.dm.com>, > dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) wrote: > > I find it highly amusing how John "asshole censor" > > Gilmore claims credit for himself and his discredited > > EFF, as if they had anything to do with Patel's > > ruling. > > What a maroon. > > John Gilmore <gnu(a)toad.com> writes: > > > >> COURT DECLARES CRYPTO RESTRICTIONS UNCONSTITUTIONAL > >> Free Speech Trumps Clinton Wiretap Plan > >> [...] > > Trying to steal glory from freedom martyr Zimmerman, I > see. The EFF were kicked out of, or their operation > severely reduced on CompuServe, was it not a few years > ago? The EFF lost whatever little credibility is had left when John "asshole censor" Gilmore (spit) admitted to content-based plug-pulling. What a jerk. P.S. I wonder if Bon Giovanni is an EFF supporter. He sounds like one - clueless and untruthful jerk, seeking to silence his mental superiors... --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: Mr. throw@yourself.up
by Psionic Damage 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Try Pingin' his ass! Teach him a lesson. At 06:39 AM 12/19/96 -0500, you wrote: > > ><HTML> ><BODY> ><CENTER> ><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com">Postage paid by: <IMG SRC="http://www.geocities.com/pictures/newgeobt.gif"></A></CENTER> ></BODY> ></HTML> > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >He's some little turd at telnor.net. Probably >rex(a)telnor.net > Throw ftp://ftp.telnor.net/pub/firewall/downloaders.HTM >into your favorite browser. The ftp server is world writable too. > Fuckin' IRC scum. > Oh yeah. > Merry Christmas. > > >jamie >- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >jamie(a)comet.net | Comet.Net | Send empty message > | Charlottesville, Va. | to pgpkey(a)comet.net > | (804)295-2407 | for pgp public key. > | http://www.comet.net | >"When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things >to be bought and sold are legislators" -P.J. O'Rourke. >- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: 2.6.2 > >iQEVAwUBMrkpX/MDfTuunU79AQEeogf+Lq4bmq3klEUXHyMAozReqBJgX55AshYs >SKh+dZUSEd4kXGM2zDbApLyO8htzxVlpMfcql8ra//9S55OqIOrI3EaVlm3MJ1jt >q0oBLM93SNPUmExVAiR38LEybPi7m8qWpfPj6xQUrt20Jlh3FG1aZJJW0JxW1vHP >QwsZCbp2QKifCYA+ej404HdsVjfPoC/IyTcZ/QTi5BOcXMLRbjkfLb3XuVjPfuiE >5wrqqVnXmQpGOp9Pd1yUHvGUYcxKIRBqx23IwaxcIpfONtWsDfTlZixLGZNVOjc8 >SJmbOukE+KeOSJRElwrJFuWVTB+qtTyif9qksopmuj6vsCQpbrQ94g== >=aDfS >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > pSIONIC dAMAGE Zer0 Faith Inc. www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/2608 H/P/A/V/C ANTIVIRUS/COUNTERSECURITY "ONLY THE ELITE SURVIVE!"

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Ban spam outright?
by Roderick Simpson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There is an interesting debate going on between Jamie Love and Scott Hazen Mueller over how to deal with the problem of email spam (does this constitute as one?) in Brain Tennis right now. Mueller would like to get rid of spam outright, while Love's organization is on the verge of recommending spam labeling legislation to the US Congress. Go to www.braintennis.com to take a look. Also, drop in to the open discussion area: http://www.braintennis.com/cgi-bin/interact/replies_all?msg.33709 Best, Rod R o d e r i c k S i m p s o n rod(a)wired.com A s s o c i a t e P r o d u c e r T h e H o t W i r e d N e t w o r k www.braintennis.com www.wiredsource.com

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Ahem... 'virus'?
by Dagmar the Surreal 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Let's get a few things straight here before we go any further... I field enough calls from the clooless at work trying to warn me about getting the 'Good Times Virus' in my email without having to worry about yet another meme floating around about email virii. 1. Can anyone show that the .com file replicates? It MUST reproduce itself to be called a virus last time I checked. It looks like a trojan horse to me. 2. How many of you people are using Microsloth Internet Mail? It was mentioned a LONG time ago (I think here, in fact) that there was a major mental lapse on the part of the programmers when designing it because single-clicking a piece of mail will view it, while DOUBLE-CLICKING the mail will execute it (and any attached files!). Most people double-click EVERYTHING in Windoze, and this is why it nailed so many people. I'm surprised I hadn't seen this done sooner. If you think it only got a few of the M$IM users, think again. I'll bet there's a LOT of them out there who are 'suffering in silence' because their computer is completely kaput, or sitting in a shop waiting for someone like me to wipe the hard drive and reinstall everything. Please, if there's going to be another damn meme about email virii, let it NOT be from a list I consider to be at least a LITTLE more enlightened than the hordes of AOL (l)users out there. ---------- Dagmar the Surreal (not actual size) "The Internet is Full. Go Away." -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzK50XQAAAEEAMoJsT9Rwbd28VUGhag2fOl+QrTnltqHrN2/7CBMy6kcnaba 8j3HIsNY6NzE/62iV67n6uCTlt6r3/ZosZL4RXYerH06bDOAfWZ6AYn6d0OO+vgi sghnFXiUfknU0h7A88R7z4uRRpZNkU0NXL/svZjrL+cOiMRnQUAqcwqI8ynFAAUR tCREYWdtYXIgdGhlIFN1cnJlYWwgPGRhZ21hckBlZGdlLm5ldD4= =34r7 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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