December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Executing Encrypted Code
by AwakenToMe＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 96-12-20 19:54:09 EST, ph(a)netcom.com (Peter Hendrickson) writes: << > I believe this is a pipedream. As it stands now, virtually all of the > software that requires special hardware dongles is ridiculously expensive, > even compared to similar offerings from other companies. >> Well.... it seems to me that if the software is going to be so expensive.. that would THEN motivate to put dongles on.. seeing as these are the hardest to crack.

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RE: Life with Dale
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Timothy C. May [.....]what was left of her [is] rotting in a grave somewhere north of me. ....... [...] interestingly, the Cypherpunks had a big beach party between Pescadero (where Dubroff lived) and Half Moon Bay (where she flew out of) just a couple of days prior to her departure. (This was the beach party put together by Doug Barnes, last spring.) ....................................................... Coincidence? .. Blanc <g> > > > >

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Dale defends free society from the NSApunks (was Re: Encryption ?
by nobody＠replay.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I thought this was so funny I've saved it. Perhaps we could vote on the quality of Dale's ideas and arrive at an estimate of the proportion of NSA supporters on the list. THE AKOND OF SWAT :Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 07:36:03 -0800 :From: Dale Thorn <dthorn(a)gte.net> :To: SHARK <otaner(a)boun.edu.tr> :Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com :Subject: Re: Encryption ? : :SHARK wrote: :> :> I am a Mathematic student at Bosphorus University in Turkey. :> I am interested in both computer applications and mathematical base of :> encryption.Where can I find this kind of staff on internet. :> Is it necessary to have high level of mathematical background in order to :> deal with encryption?? :> :> By the way Is there any member of this list from Turkey? : :There are a lot of NSA people here on cypherpunks, and they try very :hard to control encryption, to make everyone think it is difficult, to :discourage independent inquiry. : :That is the main reason they accuse people of being snakeoil vendors, :to discourage people from inquiring about really new ideas, like some :of my ideas for example. : :Just so you know....

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Re: FWD: PGP-fone Mailing List Archive
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>reachable off the PGP Fone Registry, but the exact URL is : > http://pgp.rivertown.net/pgp-fone/archives Actually seems to be http://pgp.rivertown.net/pgp-fone/archive/ # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)

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Re: Credentials without Identity--Race Bits
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:34 AM 12/20/96 -0800, Tim wrote: >At 1:22 AM -0800 12/20/96, Vangelis wrote: > >Umm.. tried to get on a flight without having ID lately? Doesn't work - > >against policy. Anti-terrorism policy and all.. it's for your own > >safety, of course. >At the risk of undercutting Bill's facetiousness, this was of course >precisely his point. Yeah. I've spent most of this year going around North America on airplanes a couple of times a month. Sometimes they insist on government ID, claiming (falsely) that it's a government regulation. Other times they insist on photo ID (probably correctly) claiming it's a government regulation (usually I fly electronic-ticket, which they ask for photo-ID for, and I don't mind that.) United is almost always satisfied with my employee-ID and the credit card I used to buy the ticket with, except that they don't bother telling curbside baggage-handlers that. And that's not even counting the "You must turn on your laptop" crap. And it's PRO-terrorism policy "Be afraid! Be very afraid!" It's just not something a civilized place would do. (Of course now that Ted "Accused Unabomber" Kaczynski is in jail, the Olympics are over and it's pretty obvious that TWA 800 exploded due to bad design//////////natural causes, they really _ought_ to either give our civil rights back or else find some other excuse for it, like "heavy Christmas traffic is an attractive target". But instead they've got announcements about "suspicious packages should be reported to security checkpoints immediately" and "cars parked in the Red Zone will be towed away and detonated".) At least they weren't doing most of this paranoia when I visited my sister earlier this summer, bringing a couple pounds of Silly Putty in my luggage as presents for her kids, packed near the alarm clock.... # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)

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Instruction Sets which are tough to emulate
by ph＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm guessing there are a bunch of ways to make a processor hard to emulate. For instance, you can make the registers 65 bits wide. Can anybody think of some more? Peter Hendrickson ph(a)netcom.com

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Re: Credentials without Identity--Race Bits
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:38 PM 12/11/96 -0800, "Timothy C. May" <tcmay(a)got.net> wrote: >Consider a "race credential" offered by some entity. .. >(Why some groups might want this is left as an exercise for the reader. >Perhaps a less-inflammatory example (to some of the sensitive amongst you) >might be that some women want to interact in "women only" forums--a clear >case of discrimination, no?--and may want a "gender bit" avaiable to >display as a credential.) I've already tried to subscribe to a forum (at the liberal Utne reader!) where I was rejected because they currently had more subscribers who identified themselves as "male" than as "female", and they wanted to maintain a balance. And certainly "US Citizens Only" sites are common - nationalism is just as ugly and stupid as racism, and far more likely to be enforced with ID requirements; I've heard that in less civilized parts of the world you're actually required to carry government-issued ID cards to walk down the street or fly on airplanes. Another problem is that "nationalist credentials" made hide other data, such as a race bit, a Jewish bit, a don't-ask-out-loud-don't-tell bit, a suspected-Commie bit, a check-FBI-files-first bit, etc. The subliminal channels in DSS are the best known method for doing this, but it's probably possible to do something similar even using blind signatures, especially if there are multiple keys or timestamp fields. For example, they could use different signature keys that are supposedly just "signed at the New York/LA/Langley/Holtsville/SF/DC office" or "signed 4/1/97 4:20pm". # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)

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Re: Dale defends free society from the NSApunks
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

:Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:10:11 -0800 :From: Rich Graves <rcgraves(a)disposable.com> :Stop bashing Dale, you ADL/CFR/NSA thought police, you. I can recognize sarcasm! You're on the list! Yes, THE list! Yours from NSA.

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Re: Credentials without Identity--Race Bits
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

:From: dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) :Why is the fascist United State of America considered a "civilized :country"? It lets in the refuse of the earth to offer them the opportunity of a better life? With little guarantee thay will repay the offer?

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RE: Securing ActiveX.
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Armenians are murderous cowards. They killed over 2 million Moslems in > this century alone - mostly women and children. I note that along with this racist generalisation you decided to post the following rant: >As usual, Timmy May spouts racist, anti-Semitic shit. As usual, he has >no idea what he's talking about. So what else is new... As well as a number of other rants along those lines. There is little difference between over generalisations of the kind you made above and, for example, discriminating against someone on the basis of race, colour, religion etc. Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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