December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Esther Dyson on Remailers
by Dave Farber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

EFF does not, to my knowledge, (and I am a Board Member) have an organizational view on this issue. There are a lot of different views and each member of EFF has their own view that they can and will state as private people. The tendency of the Press to label people with organizations affiliation ship gives the impression of organizational views. For example I certainly don't speak for the University of Pennsylvania when I say thing to the newspapers. Dave http://macpond.cis.upenn.edu

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Pseudonym server: Jenaer Anonymous Service <anon@as-node.jena.thur.de>
by stewarts＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jenaer Anonymous Service <anon(a)as-node.jena.thur.de> looks like a high-security pseudonym server. You can send outgoing mail to email or newsgroups. It accepts encrypted email addressed to anon-hexkeyid(a)as-node.jena.thur.de, where hexkeyid is the keyid for a PGP key you send it; it doesn't store any information about the owner of the key. To pick up your mail, you send it an encrypted message with the keyid and a Reply-To: header, and it sends you your mail by mixmaster. It's a bit less user-friendly than some servers, since you not only need PGP, but you need to pick up your mail rather than having it arrive directly. But in return, it's pretty secure, since you can only get caught if the remailer or its operator are compromised when you request a delivery. I haven't yet checked if how flexible it is about the location of Reply-To: in the headers, since some mailers make it difficult to paste that in. The public key for the server is signed by Lutz.Donnerhacke(a)Jena.Thur.De, which is in turn signed by 0x3B7F286D, which MIT thinks is an unknown signator... The help message has a policy against illegal activity, flamewars, and binary files, and says people can be blacklisted for abuse. Because you don't get your reply email until you ask to pick it up, it does seem easy to abuse; complaints, flames, and mailbombs won't reach you if you don't ask for them. I hope the operator doesn't mind the workload of managing the remailer - it looks like a good service, and with Julf's remailer shut down, we need more nymservers. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # <A HREF="http://idiom.com/~wcs"> Reassign Authority!

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The Three Horsemen???
by William Knowles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- It seems most everywhere I turn, either on the Internet or on television there is some reference to the Four Horseman of the Infocalypse, -Terrorists, Pedophiles, Drug Dealers and Money Launderers, But no real hard evidence. But since the story broke in the Observer I have been trying to remember where I heard of Toby Tyler before, I belive it was on a television show on the Discovery Channel that Tim May was in, and recently I found this about Mr. Tyler in the Clari. newsgroups reporting on the child sex trade. == One professional cybercop is Toby Tyler, who surfs the Net from his computer terminal in the San Bernadino (Calif.) County Sheriff's Department. He searches for scams, sources of child porn, and deceptions designed to entrap children. Five investigators in his department are busy full-time investigating child sexual exploitation - much of it flowing from pedophiles trying to set up meetings with children by computer. The Internet is a ``two-edged sword'' for child pornographers, Deputy Tyler says. On the one hand, he says, it seems to have damaged the profitability of pornographers who sell their wares via dial-up computer ``bulletin board.'' There is so much free stuff on the Internet - why would anyone pay? == Wouldn't the Observer article about anon.penet.fi transmitting 75 to 90% of the child porn on the Internet lead you to belive that since it has been shut down that all Internet child porn will pretty much dry up? I Wonder if its now the Three Horsemen of the Infocalypse? <g> William Knowles erehwon(a)c2.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMimNkQURbnwsNLz5AQEncgQAonfr7b67BZfLOjJxnS8GzlZ3RSoGYBMT 07uacF3sIkH9vyXVnG3O4BKbptb28dPBm1OoN7dufTyu7WxEi91sQNcY++MUmwhO vRR+yWcSWTAeOb1AwDZFXxRLdFCJHbshb6M6P4ECa2VA6ONGH/lTgy/dZS6Zk1Nb vD7jCUw8k2s= =jRGc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- William Knowles <erehwon(a)c2.net> PGP mail welcome & prefered / KeyID 1024/2C34BCF9 PGP Fingerprint 55 0C 78 3C C9 C4 44 DE 5A 3C B4 60 9C 00 FB BD Finger for public key -- Vote for Harry Browne in November -- http://www.HarryBrowne96.org

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anon.penet.fi: URGENT REQUEST
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FAO: ALL CYPHERPUNKS & COMMUNITY LIST READERS I wish to gauge the response on something here: Following the closure of the anon.penet.fi remailer: If I can get enough funding to cover all expenses (I am a student and cannot unfortunately contribute much myself) I will install lines and hardware at my premises and run the equivalent to the anon.penet.fi remailer. I don`t know what the response to this will be, I need approximately 5000 UK pounds to set up such an operation (Yes, a leased line really does cost that much in the UK) and then a monthly income of around 3000 UK pounds. The service, I propose, would be free to the users, and maintained my by voluntary donation, no access restriction would be placed on non-paying users. Please send me mail at paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk with the subject as ANON.PENET.FI SERVER and the message body an ammount in UK pounds or dollars (approximate ammounts are OK) so I can guage the response. NO MONEY WILL BE TAKEN AT THE PRESENT TIME. As I said, I just want to see what teh response is like and to see if it would be possible, I also would be unable to set it up until I had some solid commintment from the people giving the money, I expect a large response to this and a measly one to the real appeal for hard cash if it goes ahead! - anyway, mail me and i`ll report the response back soon... Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Http://www.fatmans.demon.co.uk/crypt/ "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey" -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQCNAjH9j+cAAAEEAMBvREiQR0ot9dFCO0TiSCSunAYLv2g1Bc6I3bz8FzKXNH53 6mieJf/W4rD+CxJpT0q9RQaaoRtkHJLwbjfK2il3D7mEahMAyqvF/xRJNqkXfhM3 sRJM0Jh43l+W0M5vwokbEbk25/bxWWGspTsLD3YHbzKnG6pOcL5OPIRbv66xAAUR tCdQYXVsIEJyYWRsZXkgPHBhdWxAZmF0bWFucy5kZW1vbi5jby51az4= =riHc -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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PLEASE Nuke Singapore Back into the Stone Age
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:06 PM 9/1/96, James Seng wrote: >To understand the sitution better, you should not impose America >idealogy and perspection on how things to be done to Singapore. Singapore >maybe young but there are certain culture too. Who says this has anything to do with "American ideology"? The Usenet is propagated around the world. All we are saying is that honest commentary on the corruption of Lee Kwan Yew (and his billion dollars in Australian and European banks) will be reported on the Usenet. This is not "imposing American ideology" on anyone. Singapore, being the dynastic dictatorship that it is, may decide to block access all newsgroups which discuss Yew's tyranny, or pornography, or pro-Malay sentiment, or anything else banned in the Benevolent Republic of Singapore. This will be their choice, to ban access by citizen-units to Evil Thoughts. It is not an issue of "imposing American ideology" on the helpless in Singapore, any more than a book or magazine is "imposing" an ideology. It sounds to me, James, that you need to get out of Singapore and visit a country where free speech and free ability to read material is not treated as "imposed foreign ideologies." (I think you also need to look up what "imposed" means. The "Wired" magazine banned in Singapore is not something that is ever "imposed" on others....anyone is free to simply not read the magazine!) >is Singapore. As an example of what i mean, few years back, when they >introduced R rating movies uncensored in Singapore for people above 18, >it cause a surge in soft-porn movie to be screened. There is a general So? Your point being? After all, nobody is forcing _you_ to go watch these R-rated movies. You are free to not watch if you find them offensive. In a free society this is how things work. I think you'll find this mailing list anathema to your apparent ideology. ... >Singapore culture. Do not impose the general idealogy and culture within >your country into your argument. (Oh yea, dont give me the "Bull shit! ... >Now, what makes you think that citizen of Country A has the power or >rights to tell politicians of Country B what to do and what they cannot do? >Just wondering. Again, you really need to look up the meaning of "impose" more carefully. By posting a comment about how Singapore sucks, or how Lee Kwan Yew raped his country and deposited his profits in Australian and European banks, just what am I "imposing" on Singaporans or anyone else? I think you have little understanding of how the global Internet works. --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: anon.penet.fi: URGENT REQUEST
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:09 PM 9/1/96 +0000, paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk wrote: > I don`t know what the response to this will be, I need approximately > 5000 UK pounds to set up such an operation (Yes, a leased line really > does cost that much in the UK) and then a monthly income of around > 3000 UK pounds. A little greedy. Other people have set up a multitude of remailers for substantially less. We now need remailers, preferably many, many small remailers rather than one big remailer, that is as easy to reply to as alt.penet.fi, but which gives substantially better security, that is to say the reply address can map to a remailer chain, instead of being constrained to map to a regular address as the penet.fi remailer did. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Beta Scam
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.economist.com/issue/31-08-96/wb1.html Beware Geeks bearing gifts The Internet is well known as a pioneer when it comes to technology. Less noticed is its role on the cutting edge of management fashion. Nowadays, it is fashionable for firms to "outsource" product development to just about everybody. Leading Internet firms have developed this method a stage further: they have found an outside supplier so keen to tender his services that he is sometimes willing to pay for the privilege. The name of this fool? The consumer. [More on beta-scamming at the URL.]

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RE: Desubscribe
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > deserves to be shipped to sweden where they shall be > > made into cheese by nuns. At 04:40 PM 9/1/96 DST, Johnny Eriksson wrote:> > No thanks, we do not want them. You are Swedish? I heard on talk.politics.guns somebody say that in Sweden they had banned knives with a sharp point at the end, and were going to ban sharp knives altogether. I think he was just engaging in hyperbole, that he really meant that gun control in Sweden was unreasonably strict, but on reflection I am not sure. What is the story? --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Bob Dole on Drugs
by ichudov＠algebra.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://allpolitics.com/news/9608/31/radio.addresses/ ... snip ... Dole, who returned to Washington for Labor Day weekend, also pledged to use the White House as a bully pulpit to promote the "moral message" against drugs and to criticize what he called the entertainment industry's glamorization of drug use. On Sunday, he is to address the convention of the National Guard Association of the United States during which he's expected to propose that the military be enlisted to assist in a renewed war on drugs.

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Hacker list information
by agt387465＠blackhel.fbi.gov 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Patrick: I am interested in a copy of your mailing list. Thank you. David Pfeiffer

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