December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: The Utility of Privacy
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 8:38 PM 11/17/1996, Huge Cajones Remailer wrote: >Before we complete your school assignment for you how about letting us >all know the due date and the credit value first. > >On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Huge Cajones Remailer wrote: > >> Privacy is a hassle. Is it worth it? >> >> Which unfortunate situations does privacy prevent? What are the odds >> that they will occur? How much effort will it take to prevent these >> outcomes? As a model, use the present and future situation of a >> typical reader of this list. Insult is not enlightening. URL? Book?

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Re: Fuck You Dumb Cunt
by Dave Hayes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Brian Davis writes: > I'm especially sorry that some of you don't believe in property > rights. I believe in them, alright. It's just that they seem to be at odds with freedom of speech. They are at odds with a lot of other things as well, but that's a different fla...er...discussion. ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave(a)jetcafe.org Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet History is not usually what has happened. History is what some people have thought to be significant.

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Re: Does John Gilmore...
by Dave Hayes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Black Unicorn writes: > Dave Hayes writesL: > > [For those who's assumptions rule their perception: I am *not* arguing > > that all speech should be subsidized. I am merely pointing out that > > the organization that is spending the money to broadcast is > > controlling the speech, hence it is *not* free speech in terms of > > freedom or cost.] > Again, you confuse free speech with free broadcast. Isn't broadcast a subset of speech, especially in this culture? ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave(a)jetcafe.org Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet The penalty for laughing in a courtroom is six months in jail; if it were not for this penalty, the jury would never hear the evidence.

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Re: Warfield's audience is terminated
by Sven 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>I have been advised by my associates that you are a waste of my time. >My audience for your comments is therefore terminated. Right on -- that guy came across as a masturbator with the "I'm my own p0stmastur!1!!1" response and it's probably more effective for both of you to work separately. Fuck flames, Feed trolls. Sven |__ |--> SVEN: a.k.a. Chris Blanc Internet consulting/Web design [ http://www.loop.com/~sven/ ] Some only sample the dark wine of life's blood...

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Re: Security hole in premail
by Mixmaster 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Fri, 20 Dec 1996, Mixmaster wrote: > *** premail.orig Fri Dec 20 18:46:01 1996 > --- premail Fri Dec 20 18:55:54 1996 > *************** > *** 3574,3579 **** > --- 3574,3582 ---- > } > for ($triesleft = 2; !$done && $triesleft; $triesleft--) { > $pass = &getpass ($x); > + if(!-O $ps) { > + &error ("Secrets file exists and is owned by another user\n"); > + } > $status = &decrypt_secrets ($ps_pgp, $ps, $pass); > if (!-s $ps) { unlink $ps; } > $done = (!$status && -e $ps); That patch doesn't work. It will always return an error. I have tested the following patch and it does work as intended: *** premail.orig Wed Oct 30 22:25:10 1996 --- premail Sat Dec 21 15:45:41 1996 *************** *** 3631,3636 **** --- 3631,3639 ---- $invoc .= ' > '.$ps; $invoc .= ' 2> '.$errfile; &pdv ("Invoking PGP as $invoc\n"); + if(-e $ps) { + &error ("Premail secrets file already exists\n"); + } $status = &open_pgp ($invoc, $pass, ''); $err = &read_and_delete ($errfile); &pdv ($err); Sorry about the previous mistake.

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Re: Ebonics
by Omegaman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 21 Dec 1996, Mark Rosen wrote: > No. Speaking in Ebonics is the same as speaking with an accent. You can't > control their expression; you learned to speak with a Southern accent as a > child, while other people learned to speak with an Ebonic accent (?). By > condoning speaking in a Southern accent, you condone speaking in Ebonics. Whatever rational basis your arguments may have had were eradicated by the ludicrous logical conclusion drawn above. > I can't understand thick Southern accents. No matter how smart you are, > I'm not going to hire you because I can't understand you. How do you feel? Oh so sad. Let me make this clear, an accent is far different from grammatically incorrect speech. I can speak with grammatic perfection and a drawl so heavy it'll make your eyeballs hurt. (Of course, being from New Orleans, my normal accent is more like brooklyn than Nashville -- four years in Mississippi changed all that) > Replace the word Ebonics with "Southern accent" and "black English" with > "Southern twang" and you'll see how hypocritical you are. Also, why do you > make an exception for foriegn accents? They're just as difficult to > understand. And can still be spoken with proper grammar. I make an exception for foreign accents because we are dealing a completely separate language. Speakers of ebonics are certainly not bilingual in this sense (and neither am I). I don't see hypocrisy at all. I do see an apologist, pampering, paternal point of view, however. And we southern folk jes' don't abide that sorta thang. > Language is completely different from intellect. You can't control whether > you were taught, Ebonics, a Southern accent, or "normal" English. I wasn't "taught" a Southern accent. I absorbed it in daily conversation. I certainly wasn't taught a Southern dialect. I was taught the English language. I'll say it again...the notion that Ebonics exists as a separate language -- not derived as slang from standard English -- is absurd. me _______________________________________________________________ Omegaman <mailto:omega@bigeasy.com> PGP Key fingerprint = 6D 31 C3 00 77 8C D1 C2 59 0A 01 E3 AF 81 94 63 Send e-mail with "get key" in the "Subject:" field to get a copy of my public key _______________________________________________________________

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[Fwd: To unsbscribe, unscrivive, or ubsribibe]
by Carl Johnson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-- Reply to:toto@sk.sympatico.ca "There's only one two." To: "Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM" <dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com> Subject: To unsbscribe, unscrivive, or ubsribibe From: Carl Johnson <toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 06:18:30 -0800 Organization: TOTO Enterprises References: <2BJaZD31w165w(a)bwalk.dm.com> ABB Electrical Engineering <abbee(a)ritsec1.com.eg> writes: > Can anyone tell me please how to unsbscribe and not to receive such mail. To unsbscibe, unscrivive, or ubsribibe, just send eMail to fuck(a)yourself.up. He will be happy to send you an executable program that will ensure that you will no longer get any mail from this conference. Glad I could be of assistance. -- Reply to:toto@sk.sympatico.ca "There's only one two."

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Re: Dale defends free society from the NSApunks
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Carl Johnson <toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca> writes: > Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: > > For those who don't know what kind of slimeball Rich Graves is: > > Rich Graves is a paranoid Jewhater who likes to harrass Jews by > > spamming inappropriate public forums with Holocaust flame bait. > > Dr. DM K, > Yes, but I'm sure that he has some bad qualities, too. Is "Gravesian" gay? --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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EMR Threat of RS-232 Cables
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thanks to Steve Schear we've put a 1990 article on eavesdropping on RS-232 cable emanations which parallels van Eck's work on VDUs. "The Threat of Information Theft by Reception of Electromagnetic Radiation from RS-232 Cables" By Peter Smulders, Dept of EE, Eindhoven University of Technology Smulders notes that this type of emanation can disclose information, such as passwords, that does not appear on VDUs. And that cable shielding does not always prevent snooping. http://jya.com/rs232.pdf (367 kb)

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No Subject
by aga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sun, 22 Dec 1996, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: you honkies do not understand this, but this is what I grew up with. will you muthafuckin cyberpunks PLEASE learn to spell; the word is "NIGGAZ" > Apparently-To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Precedence: bulk > > Punks, > > Nawh nigga, yous don't want dem udder foo's to be able to read jo > mail! What da hail?! Don'chew see it now? Dis's anutha foam of > kryptografee! > > Da reason we be doin' dis shit is dat so dem basta'ds out dere > who be wantin' in on ours konversayshun can't be gettin' in. > > See?! Now what foo' ass cracka muthafucka can be readin' dis > shit at a decent clip? Shit! Can't none of 'em! De only problem is dat > it be takin' too long to put in dees apo-straphees. If we gots rids ofs > dems, dens we'ds haves a much easia' time of doin' dis shit. > > Why don't one you cleva' boyz come up wit some kinda editor dat > crossreferences (oops, too many syllables) wit dat phat ass ebonics > dikshunary at EBONIC.ORG? Den jus' give da dikshunary only to dose > people who you be wantin' to read jo shit. > > Yeomsayn'? Hilary Clinton can't be readin' dis shit! Can't > nobody else ova dere in D.C. Us niggas here in Compton been down wit dis > phat ass kryptografee fo' a long ass time. How do you tink dat us > gangstas is all still around? We be talkin' shit ev'y night on da co'na, > but can't none da fuzz be translatin' so we's frees tos dos whateva' we's > wantin's tos dos. > > Yo, jus' lemme quote my phat ass nigga dogg Method Man befo' I go: > > "I'm slammin' niggas like Shaqueel, dis shit is real, > When it's time to eat a meal, I rob and steal, > Cuz mom ain't givin' me shit, > So for da bread an' butta I leave niggas in da gutta, > Wherde 'the mutha, I'm dangerous, > Crazia' den a bag o' fuckin' angel dust, > When I bus' my gat, muthafuckas take dirt naps, > I'm all dat, wit a dime sack and a payback!" > > Dag! Dat shit's phat, dogg. > > > > > > ************************************************************************** > # Gangsta J # "Dead bodies pile up, an' it's plain to see, # > # j(a)hardcore.gangsta.com # it's because o' me. I'm the girl killa, the # > # Brownsville ghetto # throat slitta, the cunt rippa" - J # > ************************************************************************** > this muthafucker has a sick sig. keep all fuckin replies to the mailing list ONLY.

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