December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Alegedly "Breaking News."
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text X-Sender: simsong(a)vineyard.net Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 07:18:34 -0600 To: rah(a)shipwright.com From: "Simson L. Garfinkel" <simsong(a)vineyard.net> Subject: Alegedly "Breaking News." Mime-Version: 1.0 Just for the record, my article doesn't say anything about this being a new kind of attack. I wasn't pleased at all with Steve O'Keefe's press release and I would really appreciate it if you published a correction or something to cypherpunks... -Simson * * * LAST KNOWN LOCATION: ST. LOUIS, MO * * * Follow Simson's trip at http://simson.net/trip96 Follow Simson's ramblings at http://www.packet.com/garfinkel --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "The cost of anything is the foregone alternative" -- Walter Johnson The e$ Home Page: http://www.vmeng.com/rah/

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New E-commerce Paper:
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A new electronic commerce paper: "Internet Markets: Emerging Business Models" By Dan Yurman December 11, 1996 Abstract What are business models for profiting on the net? Perhaps the best metaphor to describe Internet business is that it is like the California gold rush of 1849. A wave of entrepreneurial start-ups have entered the field, but all are struggling to find the gold. The miners are going broke while the saloon and general store owners, and the brothels, are prospering. Anyone who wants to make real money in mass markets is going to have to break the mold of "business as usual" and offer real value which is not available offline. Meanwhile, business-to-business commerce is growing using the time-based value of data exchange as a pricing mechanism. This brief paper considers the business models and related success factors which favor profitability for doing business on the Internet. It addresses four areas: + Mass Markets + Business-to-Business Markets + Online Banking + Advertising ----- http://jya.com/emarkets.htm (44 kb)

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Elliptic curves
by Admin＠bexcol.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

You are all a bunch of faggots. Faggot cannot be allowed on usenet as dictated by the great dr. Grubor. Fuck you all.

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Re: WEB: Yahoo/Firefly Website recommendation service
by Alexander Chislenko 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:52 PM 12/11/96 -0800, Dale Thorn wrote: >Alexander Chislenko wrote: >> Firefly Network Inc. has just launched a public beta of our website >> recommendation service on My Yahoo! This service is the result of a >> partnership between Yahoo! Inc. and Firefly Network, Inc. in application >> of Automated Collaborative Filtering (ACF) technology to the Web. >> It allows users to find interesting websites interest and like-minded >> people, and otherwise help the user navigate the vast domain of sites >> and people in an intelligent and personalized way. > >I tried Firefly. What a waste. Unless your tastes in most things >entertainment-wise are pretty mundane (music=Pearl Jam, Prince, >other mainstream drek), they won't be able to find a match at all, >no matter how much information you give them! > You are talking about our first site, with music and movie recommendations. I personally rated not-at-all-mainstream movies by Kurosawa and Tarkovsky and got a similar advice. Though, I agree, the recommendations are not perfect. Partly, because the most of the audience are mainstream. Partly, because the site <www.ffly.com> runs the first version of our ACF software server. The website recommendation uses the feature-guided ACF server that I hoped would solve most of the algorithmic problems we encountered in the music and movie domains. I'd be interested to know what you think of it. Also: I created a group profile, name: cypherpunk, password: group that people on this list might use together as a common interest view, or a joint bookmark list. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alexander Chislenko <sasha1(a)netcom.com> www.lucifer.com/~sasha/home.html Firefly Network, Inc.: <alexc(a)firefly.net> www.ffly.com 617-234-5452 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

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[Incredibly Off-topic] Re: (Fwd) Books for Children's Hospitals
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:45 AM 12/12/96 -0500, pjb(a)ny.ubs.com wrote: >i know that this is WAY off topic, and that we never post off-topic mail here, >but, this seems worthwhile, so please excuse, (maybe flames for off-topic posts >will count ) [Mail bomb Hough Miflon spam deleted] Sorry. This was true one. Evidently it blew up their mail server. (As it should. Damn stupid idea.) Unfortunatly the Shergold Effect will keep it in propagation for centuries... --- | "Spam is the Devil's toothpaste!" - stuart(a)teleport.com | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ |alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com|

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Re: (Fwd) Books for Children's Hospitals
by camcc＠abraxis.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:45 AM 12/12/96 -0500, you wrote: :i know that this is WAY off topic, and that we never post off-topic mail here, :but, this seems worthwhile, so please excuse, (maybe flames for off-topic posts :> [snip] :>All that you have to do is email share(a)hmco.com. :> :>I hope that you can spare the seconds...and let your friends know. So far :>they only have 3,401 messages...last year they reached 23,000. :>[snip] Sounds like a great way to mailbomb someone. Discretion invited. Cordially, Alec PGP Fingerprint: Type bits/keyID Date User ID pub 1024/41207EE5 1996/04/08 Alec McCrackin <camcc(a)abraxis.com> Key fingerprint = 09 13 E1 CB B3 0C 88 D9 D7 D4 10 F0 06 7D DF 31

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Re: take me off the list
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Bryondp(a)aol.com spewed forth as follows: > take me off the list Why did you not follow the instructions I have sent to you no less than 5 times? - they follow, for fucks sake do as they say this time. To unsubscribe from the cypherpunks mailing list: Send a message to majordomo(a)toad.com with the *MESSAGE BODY* reading exactly as follows: unsubscribe cypherpunks you(a)your.domain.com Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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Re: Redlining
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:20 PM 12/11/1996, Matthew J. Miszewski wrote: >>(Let me add that remailers are great. I would be reluctant to express >>these ideas in any other way for professional reasons.) > >hehehe. Actually, there's nothing funny about the suppression of free speech. What I fear is being dragged into a baseless "discrimination" lawsuit if I should ever hire somebody from a "protected class" and find that their employment needs to be terminated. Note that the "protected classes" constitute the overwhelming majority of the US population. >>(Those who don't believe me should get "Love Supreme" by John >>Coltrane and listen to it carefully about 20 times. There are >>layers and > >And what was it that Bird's contemporary society called him? Was it >crazy? This is one of the social ills potentially caused by >discrimination. Far more important to me than the politics of any >time is the music that a time period presents. But this visionary >jazz musician was all but discredited by the musical environment of >the times. Thankfully, it survived on its merits. But imagine if >the campaign to discredit Coltrane had been successful and my young >ears never experienced that beauty. That is part of the potential >harm I am talking about. Is this a joke? How can we pass a law telling people to like somebody's music? Respect cannot be legislated. It must be earned. Red Rackham

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Re: Draft of Commerce Department Crypto Regs
by Peter D. Junger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cindy Cohn writes: : Steptoe and Johnson have kindly posted the draft Commerce Department : regulations on encryption exports at http://www.steptoe.com/commerce.htm. Thanks. Since it took a long time to download them from Steptoe and Johnson's web site, I have taken the liberty of mirroring them at http://samsara.law.cwru.edu/comp_law/commerce.proposed.regs.html on my web server. -- Peter D. Junger--Case Western Reserve University Law School--Cleveland, OH Internet: junger(a)pdj2-ra.f-remote.cwru.edu junger(a)samsara.law.cwru.edu URL: http://samsara.law.cwru.edu

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[OFF-TOPIC] RE: (Fwd) Books for Children's Hospitals
by James A. Tunnicliffe 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Paul writes: >i know that this is WAY off topic, and that we never post off-topic mail >here, >but, this seems worthwhile, so please excuse, (maybe flames for off-topic >posts >will count ) > >cheers, > -paul >>"The Houghton-Mifflin publishing co. is giving books to children's >>hospitals; how many books they give depends on how many emails they >>receive from people around the world. for every 25 emails they receive, >>they give one book--it seems like a great way to help a good cause. >> >>All that you have to do is email share(a)hmco.com. >> >>I hope that you can spare the seconds...and let your friends know. So far >>they only have 3,401 messages...last year they reached 23,000. >> >>This seems like an easy and simple thing to do -- please take the time!" My "urban legend detector" pegged when I saw this, but it turns out to be on the level. See http://www.hmco.com/hmco/trade/hmi/polar/ for more info. Tunny ====================================================================== James A. Tunnicliffe | WWWeb: http://www.inference.com/~tunny Inference Corporation | PGP Fingerprint: CA 23 E2 F3 AC 2D 0C 77 tunny(a)Inference.com | 36 07 D9 33 3D 32 53 9C ======================================================================

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