December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Bernstein hearing, Nov 8 CANCELED!
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Judge Patel has decided that she already knows enough, based on the papers submitted by both sides, to decide our motion for a preliminary injunction to protect Dan Bernstein as he teaches a class on cryptography in January. She also says that she will decide our motion for partial summary judgement (from the September 20th hearing) at the same time. So, THERE WILL BE NO HEARING ON NOVEMBER 8TH! DON'T COME, WE WON'T BE THERE. Apologies for the short notice. It's all the notice the legal team got. I'll let you know as soon as she releases her decision. John Gilmore

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[PRIVACY][BLACKNET] Potential Analyst?
by Brian D Williams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Dimitri Vulis >#4k Burns St, Forest Hills,NY 11375-3506 >(718)261-6839 >Source: http://www.yahoo.com (Four11 people search) >Birthday: December 29 >Source: http://www.boutell.com/birthday.cgi/december/29 >D&M Consulting Services (DM-DOM) > 67-67 Burns Street > Forest Hills, NY 11375 > Domain Name: DM.COM > Administrative Contact: > Administration, PSINet Domain (PDA4) >psinet-domain-admin(a)PSI.COM > (703) 904-4100 > Technical Contact, Zone Contact: > Network Information and Support Center (PSI-NISC) >hostinfo(a)psi.com > (518) 283-8860 > Record last updated on 31-Oct-96. > Record created on 19-Jun-91. > Domain servers in listed order: > NS.PSI.NET 192.33.4.10 > NS2.PSI.NET 38.8.50.2 > Source: InterNIC The Pro's say that analysts are born not made. If so whoever wrote this appears to show potential..... Send resume to BLACKNET..... ;) Brian

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[pure noise] filtering Re: "censorship in cyberspace"???
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:29 PM 11/5/96 -0800, Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote: ... >the "automatic prose generator" technology out there leaves a lot >of other interesting ideas. an ingenious software engineer >with a flair for writing could create some pretty sophisticated >grammars that automatically generate text yet are impossible >to detect over perhaps even dozens of messages output by them. >they could even have their own personalities and writing styles, >if the software engineer were creative and devious enough. ... Consider, however, that when computers match humans in the ability to generate coherent sentences, they might have something useful to say. Even now, search, engine designers are fighting with "web spam" artists who fill thier pages with various "key" words or statements to ensnare hapless browsers. These designers are developing filtering systems to combat this, and these filters could conceivably be ported to the e-mail community to filter machine generated text. There should be a point where the prose spun by asimov's "positronic brains" and that woven by a humans own "natural" brain would be indistingushable. At this point, we might want to hear their opinions, for they should be as valid as any other.

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[noise] Re: Any Info for Sen. Pressler....
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Per Bill Stewart's comment. ... >At this point, I think he's now Ex-Senator Pressler, >if I saw the election returns I think I saw. ... Actually he would be a lame duck. Our elected officials don't take office the moment the returns come in. He has a little while left.

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Who is "M"?
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I met a person named "M" at Tim's party a month ago. Would somebody please email me some contact info? Thanks, -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred Member JPFO. "America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization"

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Re: CLA_sh0
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:46 AM 11/6/96 -0500, John Young wrote: > Unless the West recognizes the power of cultural > conflict, it could perish from ignorance, overconfidence > and complacency. Unless Islam and China recognize the power of Coca Cola, IPOs, blue jeans, TCP/IP, and videos they could perish from lack of interest. DCF "How you gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen Broadway"?

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Re: [NOISE] If the shoe fits, wear it [VULIS]
by networks＠vir.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Rich Graves Wrote: >Yes, this gets to my point. Private censorship tells more about the >censor than about the censored. In this case, John acted properly, and >his credibility has only been enhanced. You are of course free to rant >and rave about his hypocrisy, but expecially since you'll always be able >to post to the list, at least under a nym (the only thing he's prevented >is your reading the list under your own name), you're only proving >yourself to be an idiot. The nature of the Internet means it is extremely difficult for John to prevent Dr. Vulis from either posting using a pseudonym or having messages forwarded to him. IF it were possible to prevent Vulis from either reading messages or posting do you think John would have done that too? Just curious. Alan Majer networks(a)vir.com

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Re: Compromise proposal
by Dave Hayes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Igor Chudov wrote: > Dave Hayes wrote: > > Improving signal to noise is a laughable goal at a social event of > > more than 100 people, why do people insist upon trying it on the net? > To save time? At the expense of honor? ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave(a)jetcafe.org Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind. -- Gandhi

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[URGENT] Diffie-Hellman
by nobody＠cypherpunks.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Timothy C. May's 16Kb brain's single convolution is directly wired to his rectum for input and his T1 mouth for output. That's 16K bits, not bytes. Anal intercourse has caused extensive brain damage.

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Cypherpunk mailing list
by CHALAKKI＠worldnet.att.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Please put me on your mailing list

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