December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: PGP 5.0??
by William Knowles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ares GodOfWar <ares(a)imaginet-us.net> writes: >lo all > >i am in a terrible mess... >can someone inform me as to the location of PGP 5.0 shareware?? >i need it asap ;] Telnet to: all.net login: your name Password: guest Good Luck! William Knowles erehwon(a)c2.net -- William Knowles <erehwon(a)c2.net> PGP mail welcome & prefered / KeyID 1024/2C34BCF9 PGP Fingerprint 55 0C 78 3C C9 C4 44 DE 5A 3C B4 60 9C 00 FB BD Finger for public key -- Sitting on the razors edge of freedom of speech.

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Re: Laptops and TEMPEST
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:18 PM 12/5/96 -0800, Joel McNamara wrote: >Thinking that LCD screens reduce the risks of emanation monitoring is a >dangerous misconception (at least under a high threat model). I disagree that it's a "dangerous misconception" to believe that "LCD screens reduce the risks of emanation." While it might be correct to say that it would be dangerous to believe that they ELIMINATE the risks, LCD displays would make it exceedingly difficult to read the screen remotely. The main reason is that the LCD segments are activated in parallel, which means that the electronic noise associated with a particular row is a smeared product of each portion of the display. This is quite unlike CRT's, in which individual pixel information is completely (well, except for color) demultiplexed by time. > However, the gotcha with current laptops is their >backlighting. Electric and magnetic fields are considerably higher >compared with a low-res/contrast device. What does the backlighting have to do with anything? The backlight and its noise is not modulated (at least, not in anything less than the optical band) by the imformation provided on the screen. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Control E-Mail Advertising
by tuvak＠troi.iq-internet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: The Science Generations
by Adamsc＠io-online.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Thu, 5 Dec 1996 22:10:04 -0800, Jamie Lawrence wrote: >> I'm not sure if Gilbert chemistry sets went off the market for liablity >> reasons, or for "lack of interest." The "4-banger" I had in 1961, >> supplemented with varius Bunsen burners, arc furnaces, Erlenmayer flasks, >> and whatnot, was amazing for its time. (And not terribly expensive, in case >> some of the "social democrats" on this list are thinking I lived a >I can provide a datapoint here. I started getting into chemistry >when I was about 8, which was in 1981. I can't remember the brand >name, but my first (and last, actually) 'value-added' kit was >designed to keep kids from doing anything that could be >dangerous, a fact tactfully explained on the packaging. Or how about those TrashShack kits everyone buys a science-oriented kid (until you warn them not to)? Geez. It's about as fun as one of those slide-show demo programs. >To solve that problem, my mother gave me an Edmund Scientific >catalog and a (severely limited, given my family background) >budget for whatever I wanted. >I ordered direct for supplies from then on. Gee, you too? I probably could have broke the $30k mark, though, if given the chance. Still could, easily, but it'd be Computer Shopper now. >computers as a daily part of their work. You can run, but you can't >hide. Hehe ... Person one: "And they [computer illiterates] will call us" Person two: "Secretaries" Bonus points if you get the reference. >> get the point. Being 44 years old, and almost 45, I claim no knowledge >> about what the "latest generation" is all about. Maybe it's the "Beavis and >> Butthead" generation...I don't know.) >Yes, many of us are devoted to the study of Brute Force Insect >Dissection. Many others are devoted to "the study of Chaotic systems involving realtime exothermic reactions with common household substances". (Pyromania might not be a bad sub title) Others still are most interested in Brute Force Wallet Extraction. Or, of course, the ever popular: Members of the Opposite Sex and How to Attract Them. # Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp # <cadams(a)acucobol.com> | send mail with subject "send PGPKEY" "That's our advantage at Microsoft; we set the standards and we can change them." --- Karen Hargrove, Microsoft (quoted in the Feb 1993 Unix Review editorial)

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SMILE :)
by angie＠cpci.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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RE: Silence is not assent (re the Vulis nonsense)
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Well, I see that my email came out a bit skewed, so I'm reformatting a bit and resending to make it more readable: ----------------------------------------------- From: Dale Thorn ... I believe that my idea above [asking John Gilmore to speak up, and if he doesn't, say to the list that he has declined to do so] is still a great idea (if the subscribers are not afraid of confrontation), as it would tend to force the issue more into the open. I don't know what you mean by "forcing the issue more into the open". Do you mean the issue of John' s not replying, or of censorship per se? If you mean "forcing the issue of John not defending himself on the list", I don't see where the issue needs to be forced. John has rarely posted to the list since it started, and typically only announcements of events or crypto papers/conferences, etc.; he does not engage in the discussions at all. I personally have no argument with his decision over when he posts or what he cares to post about, or how much or how little. My own interest in the list has nothing to do with whether the list owner is moved to defend himself or not. I'm free to roam at will, read or delete, post or unsubscribe, publicly and loudly or privately & quietly. I don't feel constrained in any way, shape or form to stay or go or speak or stay quiet. I make all my own decisions about this and John never knows nor, I expect, suffers any concern over it. And vice-versa. I (and apparently many others) do not feel the need to discuss John's decisions. I, and others, are not bound, like geese flying in formation, to follow his lead, nor are we going to fall apart at a loss for direction if he fails to "show up". You mention what "others had overlooked". How about this: Tim May sent a message the other day stating (in essence) that the whole "censorship" thing was pretty much a size (rather than content) problem. I posted that notion twice, and there has been *no* discussion of it, as far as I know. Too bad Tim didn't post that at the beginning of the affair, since everyone apparently reads *his* mail. What I meant by what "others had overlooked" was in regard of the content of posted messages which I have read, not in regard of *which* poster's messages are overlooked/not read by others. Tim can have whatever opinion he likes about censorship or size or content, and none of us are under any obligation to either agree or disagree with him. On a libertarian/anarcho-capitalistic list like this, the individuals who have elected to join and lurk or post are not expected to do anything but follow their interest. There are more than 1200 subscribers to the list; if each and everyone of them had decided they had something to say to each other about the concept of the rights of the person whose computer these messages are all flowing through, that would have been their fortunate privilege to do, as no one has put any limit to the number of messages allowed, from any one, during any particular period of time. (Of course they would all be expecting not only that their particular message would be read, but that everyone would absorb their wisdom, right. Not!) >Frankly, most of the long-time members of the list >would not need any such statements of defense from >John in order to appreciate the nature of the >circumstance and the reasoning for his symbolic >'censorship'. I apologize in advance for this one, but I honestly think that statement says more about acceptance of the Iron Boot principle than it says about what really happened. I for one am not an insider in any of the various cliques that surround this list, so perhaps I missed something that would explain it better to me. I suppose you are referring to an unspoken understanding, but again, and for future reference, you might want to consider the non-long-time members and speak the unspoken, as it were. What really happened is that, upon weighing the relative merits of John's action vs Vulis' contributions, what John did was seen as more of a benefit than a detriment, and this dimmed any arguments which might have been raised against it. It's not like everyone was clammoring for the privilege of reading what Vulis had to say or there aren't any other avenues to getting his literary works. The "unspoken" understanding on the list is that it was started by a couple of guys who happen to be very libertarian/cryptoanarchist in their philosophy of life (not simply as it applies to cryptography, but rather as cryptography relates to that philosophy). I put "unspoken" in quotes because there have been no end of discussion and comments and replies and retorts and flames on this very subject in the past years since I've been on the list (Oct '93, and it is actually what attracted me to subscribing), so it has hardly gone unmentioned and to many is no surprise, although is often difficult for them to see or agree with. I recommend that you go through the archives and do a little light reading. Your mind will soon be saturated with the flavor of the underlying theme, and you will Understand. .. Blanc

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Crypto hits the mainstream
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

PC Magazine's web site has a prominent article reviewing four PC-based crypto apps: they all seem to be oriented towards storage security not communications security (to adopt Tim's taxonomy). The apps are from Symantec, RSA, AT&T, and PGP; their "Editors' Choice" was Symantec's program, followed closely by RSA's. They seem more concerned with speed and user interface rather than the strength of the algorithms or their implementations. The article won't teach anyone who's read Applied Crypto anything new about crypto, but it's neat to see that security is becoming a mainstream concern. (It should have always been one.) There may very well be an associated dead-tree version of the article as well, but I've lost touch with the PC market. The article is located at <http://www.pcmag.com/features/crypto/_open.htm>. -- Greg Broiles | US crypto export control policy in a nutshell: gbroiles(a)netbox.com | http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | Export jobs, not crypto. |

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Re: (null)
by Adamsc＠io-online.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Wed, 04 Dec 1996 17:33:59 -0600, Lurker wrote: >Could someone tell me where I can find a text file of *all* usenet newsgroups? Check www.spam-monkeys.com. If you use a Un*x based newsreader, they should have some sort of .newsrc file available. # Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp # <cadams(a)acucobol.com> | send mail with subject "send PGPKEY" "That's our advantage at Microsoft; we set the standards and we can change them." --- Karen Hargrove, Microsoft (quoted in the Feb 1993 Unix Review editorial)

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RE: Arsen
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

An unknown person asked: > >Arsen vainly insisted on listing his name in InterNIC's database as RA1215 > >(unusual for someone supposedly interested in privacy). Arsen listed a phone > >number (+1 718 786 4227) which is apparently at his parents' residence (48-2 > >40th St, Apt 2B, Calvary, NY 11104-4111) and a fax number (+1 212 725 6559). > > Where does one find information to recreate your research? I was all > over > InterNIC's websight but could not find anything on RA1215 or Arsen, let > alone > a phone number. Don't these information services rely on user > volunteering > information. If not, how do I make this information about myself > secure? Your tcp/ip package should have a program called 'whois', which goes to internic and searches its database. I'm not sure if MS includes it in NT or whatever you're using... If you can't find it, just telnet to internic.net or rs.internic.net port 43 (important!) and type the string you want to search for. Save the output - it closes the telnet connection after sending it. Yes, it relies on people supplying the information about themselves. Some folks are pretty paranoid about. E.g., fingering unicorn(a)uiuc.edu says: ]---------------------------------------- ] name: You may not view this field. ] department: You may not view this field. ] title: You may not view this field. ] phone: You may not view this field. ] address: You may not view this field. ] other: You may not view this field. ] email to: unicorn(a)uiuc.edu (Not present in entry.) ] public_key: ]You may not view this field. ]---------------------------------------- May not view the public key? Come on.

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Dimitri IS Detweiler
by nobody＠cypherpunks.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dimitri Vulis wrote: | He he he what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander blah blah ^^^^^^^^ | blah intellectual dishonesty blah blah blah typical logorrhetic "cypher | punk" can't spell his own nym politely. There we have it! PROOF that Dimitri is a tentacle of Detweiler. Own up Dimitri! (sorry for the previous accusation Dale)

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