December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: "And who shall guard the guardians?"
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:20 8/3/96, Martin Minow wrote: >My understanding is that the United States is (finally) a signatory >to the Declaration. That doesn't matter. Violations would have to be tried by the World Court in Den Haag. The US does not recognize decisions made there (unless it suits their purpose). -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. Defeat the Demopublican Unity Party. Vote no on Clinton/Dole in November. Vote Harry Browne for President.

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Re: A Libertine Question (fwd)
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:18 AM 8/3/96 -0700, Cerridwyn Llewyellyn wrote: >>> As long as you are enforcing it on everyone, I don't think you'd have a >>> problem, but to force some one from cooking food for homeless people, and >>> allow a family barbeque, is IMO wrong. >> >>Not at all. Businesses have no rights, individuals do. Businesses have a ><snip> >>Blueberries they bought at the local HEB). Individuals have a right to >>privacy, that includes cooking themselves food without harrassment. Business >>on the other hand are selling products of potentialy questionable quality. A > >I disagree with your sentiments about Business and rights, however, in this >instance, even that wasn't the issue. Food Not Bombs is NOT a business, it's >a not-for-profit organization that gives out (not sells) food. They are the >same as, I think Tim May pointed out, a Boy Scout picnic, except for the >homless, not the boy scouts. They are also Anarchists. (They are referenced on various Anarchist web pages, among other places.) My personal belief is that they are being prosecuted because they bill themselves as Anarchists and not for what they are doing. If this has been "Society Wives Against Hunger", there would have been no problems at all. (And probibly commendations from the local paper and civic leaders.) Locally, people who have billed themselves as Anarchists have been monitored by the police, harased, and arrested. (Remember: you only deserve the protection of the state if you do not oppose the state.) It seems that this country is quite willing to harrass fringe political groups when the "powers that be" feel they can get away with it. (Which is quite often.) --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon "Microsoft -- Nothing but NT promises."

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The Hazards of Reading Naughty Newsgroups at Work
by anonymous-remailer＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The following interesting article appeared on page 6 of the August 3, 1996 Seattle Times. County Accuses Four of Using the Internet to Access Child Porn -------------------------------------------------------------- By Ronald K. Fitten Seattle Times Staff Reporter Four men, including two former Microsoft employees, have been charged with allegedly using computers to access child pornography on the Internet, said King County Prosecutor Norm Maleng. "Traditional law-enforcement efforts against child pornography have focused on magazines, movies, and tangible materials," Maleng said yesterday. "But law enforcement faces new challenges with the emergence of new technology. The Internet, with its millions of international web sites, has become the new underground highway for illegal child pornography." The two former Microsoft engineers, Michael Seaman, 37, of Kirkland, and Ronald Rosul Jr., 31, of Seattle, allegedly used Microsoft computers to access and copy child pornography from the Internet, according to prosecutors. Microsoft said both were fired after Microsoft discovered the alleged crimes in October 1995. Seaman is charged with possession of child pornography. He allegedly used his Microsoft computer to collect more than 2,500 files of photographs of young children in sexual poses or being sexually abused. Rosul is also charged with possession of child pornography. He allegedly used Microsoft equipment to manufacture a CD-ROM disk containing child pornography. Both Seaman and Rosul will be arraigned next week in King County Superior Court. If convicted, both could receive up to one year in jail. Maleng, who said police and prosecutors worked cooperatively with Microsoft throughout the investigation, said law-enforcement officers had confiscated computer hard drives, CD-ROMs, and printed materials as evidence. Microsoft spokesman Mark Murray said the company found out about the activities of its two former employees last year and alerted police. "We provided the police with the computers to pull up the evidence," Murray said. In an unrelated case, William D. Powell, 52, or Renton, and Dwight Hunter, 48, of Bellevue, are charged with possession of and dealing in child pornography. Powell, an unemployed engineer, is accused of using his home computer to exchange child pornography with Hunter. If convicted of both offenses, Powell, who has a warrant out for his arrest after failing to appear at his arraignment three weeks ago, could be sentenced to between 21 and 27 months in prison. Hunter, an unemployed salesman, is accused of using his home computer to exchange child pornography with Powell and of having photographs in his computer disks of children engaged in several types of sexual activities with adults, other children, and a dog. Hunter will be arraigned next week. If convicted, he could receive almost three years in prison.

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Re: Let's Say "No!" to Single, World Versions of Software
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:49 AM 8/3/96, Adam Back wrote: >Bill Frantz <frantz(a)netcom.com> writes: >> Sun Microsystems - SKIP implementation, PGP v3 implementation > >Sun PGP v3? Whats the story behind this item? Are sun sponsoring PGP >v3 development? Derek Atkins is being paid by Sun for his work on v3, last I heard. --Tim Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Who the hell is ....
by pjn＠nworks.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In> OK, I'v been on the list a bit now. I see a lot of the same In> people posting to it, In> My question is " Who the Hell is Sternlight" At first I thought In> it was a pen name ( the light on the end of a boat ?? ) Close... If you shone a light throught one ear, it would come out the other... P.J. pjn(a)nworks.com ... We are Hippies of Borg. Make love. War is irrelevant. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]

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Re: Jewell is the Militia Bomber!!!!
by Hallam-Baker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hey folks, relax eh? Its generally best when the police don't release every bit of information on their investigations as they progress. Far from criticising the police for having investigated Jewell on no or little evidence you should criticise them for telling us about the evidence they do have. Although prosecuting a security guard in order to rob the terrorists of publicity is a cute trick I don't think the US authorities are that smart. In the past USGov has been less than sparkling in its ability to keep a lid on secrets like that. Phill

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TrustBucks
by TrustBuckFella 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- tcmay(a)got.net (Timothy C. May): > You want to elaborate on this contention? > > If Alice transfers Digicash-type money to Bob, this is because Alice either > bought the DC-money someplace, or already had it, or otherwise arranged > with a bank to make the transaction. Maybe the bank "loaned" her money she Mistaken terminology, mea culpa. The scheme I was thinking of is actually called Private Currency. Someone mistakenly labelled the writeup Digicash and I cut and pasted without thinking. I do know the difference when my brain is on. s/Digicash/Private Currency. Apologies to Digicash. I'll explain Private Currency and why it's good and bad. In Private Currency you don't "buy the [money] someplace". You mint it when paying. Alice and Bob check each other's public debt and if neither is scared off by the other's high debt, they mint a debt for Alice and money for Bob. They publish a record of the transaction, which is how they knew each other's public debt in the first step. So in theory the amount of currency in existance is exactly 0. In practice I wouldn't trust anyone for a debt that I didn't trust directly for that amount. I believe the scheme would stall. I conceived TrustBucks as an alternative that would retain the decentralization but work. > No protocols. No anonymity. No protection against double-spending. > > Looks promising. Keep us informed. Fine. I doubt my mechanisms will be optimal but here you go. Restraint on double-spending: Each participant publishes a list of the ID and value all outstanding TrustBucks of their own variety. Value of the notes can be obscured so it can only be verified by someone who has seen the note itself. What if some participant doesn't publish a complete list? Well, who are they robbing? People who directly trusted them for that amount and now won't ever again. Anonymity: Each participant identifies their currency by a randomly chosen ID-number instead of name and publishes their ID/value under that number. However, it's pretty pointless, since the chain of trust has a hard time extending beyond people who directly know each other anyways. A better objection would have been that it's hard to identify a chain of mutually trusting links between two strangers who want to make a transaction. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 iQCVAwUBMgPoDJi7GCxryNrZAQHeEgQAmHsJithWMhmRv4y3IjnCBFKAgmZLCQ+i NVYGDBVJ19iwAOTTwqHgcYMGEYdKBLUaBMRAczJDfGRbsB6WbFLKyiESHT8gpV7R 6CVesb7XpRaVDBylgTvoE/NNXfNrLrTfWOeVWtivMSVkDRKJC6BbONR1J5juhQjv A9s1wa/uwSw= =hsSY -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Digital Telephony costs $2
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:52 AM 8/3/96 -0800, Chris Adams wrote: >On 3 Aug 96 01:16:48 -0800, jimbell(a)pacifier.com wrote: > >> I propose that the better way of implementing it, rather than going through >>a sound card, is for modem manufacturers to built an new modem with an >>extra telephone connection (perhaps the same physical connector that's >>currently used for the telephone handset) which goes to an ordinary >>telephone and does the audio A/D and D/A conversion, as well as the data >>compression/data expansion function that will be necessary. The latter >>function would be done by an extra DSP on this modem/Internet telephone card. > >If you were so inclined, you could implement the whole thing for MWave >modems. They are fast enough to handle 28.8k and sound card functions at >the same time off of a single DSP. That seems a bit difficult to believe. I get the impression that implementing a 28.8Kbps+ modem pretty much uses up the capability of a near-state-of-the-art DSP chip. Further, recently an item appeared on CP concerning a new voice-compression standard that was claimed to put good-quality voice into a 2400 bps stream. Each function, coding and decoding, was claimed to occupy about (don't recall the exact figures) a little over half the capability of a TI 32025 DSP chip, which admittedly is an older unit. Assuming full-duplex is desired (and that's the purpose of this exercise) you'd need the full resources of something with greater 'ooomph' than a 32025 just for the coding/decoding. Sure, it may not be necessary to compress voice audio all the way down to 2400 bps, since the current modem standards allow 28.8kbps and beyond, but I suggest that decreasing net traffic by a factor of 12 (28.8k to 2.4k) is a desirable goal. Remember, in the long term "everybody" will be using Internet telephone. (And no doubt you've noticed that high-volume hardware gets cheap, really fast. Putting in a second DSP for compression/encryption won't increase the costs all that much.) Leaving the encryption in hardware would improve exportability, at least from a legal/ITAR standpoint. While eventually full-fiber-capacity Internet will be able to increase the capacity to "unlimited" levels, in the meantime the capacity is limited (by switches if nothing else) and going the extra mile to limit Internet telephone's impact on the national net would be better. >With the right drivers you could use >the telephone/speaker/mic jacks that are on most of the integrated cards. > Also, they have a standard realtime OS with most of the functions being >portable across cards as well, so you'd have to do very little work to >support other Mwave cards. The reason I think a system I've described has a future is that modem manufacturers have a PROBLEM. Their problem is that they've pretty much run out of room to improve the bit-pushing through a 3 KHz bandwidth. Sure, they can focus their attention on cable modems or ISDN units or other toys, but the market for such beasts won't develop for a few years. They'll pretty much be stuck doing an occasional upgrade, or selling into new computers, but that will slow down. What they'd like to have is a new function that "everybody" wants to have, and allowing people to bypass LD telephone charges is a powerful motivating factor to get people to upgrade their modems. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: Liberating Clipper Stuff from Mykotronx Dumpsters
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:33 PM 8/3/96 -0400, Mark M. wrote: > >These files can also be found at ftp.funet.fi/mirrors/dsi/cypherpunks/clipper/ >mykotronx*, as the archives are still down. Actually the path is: ftp://ftp.funet.fi/mirrors/ftp.dsi.unimi.it/cypherpunks/clipper/ --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon "Microsoft -- Nothing but NT promises."

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SecureDrive News
by edgar＠garg.campbell.ca.us 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- SecureDrive Users: It's been brought to my attention that the detached signatures for two executable files in SECDR14B.ZIP don't verify. COPYSECT.EXE FPART.EXE These were supposed to be identical to the 1.4/1.4a files, so the same signatures were used. It seems the files were inadvertantly re-compiled with a different version compiler, hence the mismatch. Anyone concerned, can use the files from SECDR14A.ZIP, which are still available, and should match the signatures. It's also been said by a couple of correspondents that the listing of CRC values from PKZIP could be easily counterfeited. Accordingly, here is a list of MD5 digest values for SECDR14B.ZIP and all contained files. CHK-SAFE.EXE Ver 2.51 by Bill Lambdin Don Peters and Robert Bullock. MD5 Message Digest Algorithm by RSA Data Security, Inc. File name Size Date Time MD5 Hash ________________________________________________________________________ SECDR14B.ZIP 132389 07-21-96 05:23 8de408deac3499a458764a50f691eca0 SECDRV.DOC 54081 07-20-96 19:45 9807d8301ec46f4d3903fbd5fe5ac438 LOGIN.EXE 43718 07-20-96 20:12 b0ab456fb143c37855000bd0a9650482 CRYPTDSK.EXE 42564 07-20-96 20:12 025f07b300e398792c5ce2d309881cd0 SECTSR.ASM 32595 08-06-95 00:00 4d0ee685a96ef26e574809dcf4b0b96e CRYPTDSK.C 20623 07-20-96 19:34 0a8d238492fd0b37090a7b7f527903e8 CRYPT2.ASM 19664 11-19-93 21:42 d774eca62b4ba6552e1cda74f2b4f05d LOGIN.C 18598 07-20-96 19:41 c2850e1427e2eb7126df83b720b57ce5 COPYING 18321 06-14-93 22:27 ad4652e2dcfd4a0ecf91a2c01a7defd5 FPART.EXE 15466 07-20-96 20:12 bac8c6e72f99983e132fec7cf6ca9b48 SDCOMMON.C 14998 06-12-96 18:06 18ec797c194c4c34b81c5185c861065a SETENV.ASM 13011 07-20-96 19:48 9b52beb40986d9df4bcce09bbf5d80e5 COPYSECT.EXE 12606 07-20-96 20:12 dbe7ae98b6d187d9904ddff72515c72a MD5.C 11557 05-09-93 19:38 951169a660ad48449ab6c0cbe20f3d3b KEY.ASC 5278 11-14-95 20:52 3a9040d3863aaffd030b570173e38b5d FPART.C 4353 08-06-95 00:00 963aaaf429a6de80133aa0856ac8c424 SECDRV.H 3656 08-06-95 00:00 2e29ce5abbd5085503aee10a2adda26b MD5.H 3407 05-11-93 12:49 3b254fd2c035f3081ca2ec96ea120f9a COPYSECT.C 2022 08-06-95 00:00 91f9b9da8addd893cf71e3fc6f8e7bf7 SECTSR.COM 2000 07-20-96 20:12 7ab3ea1e58673bb81158ac20e663836d MAKEFILE 1554 08-06-95 00:00 6e58f4269326251b342d5d7971ddac54 RLDBIOS.ASM 1355 01-21-94 08:44 dbfe21f1440f2021ce04738b95a5e3ec USUALS.H 1254 05-09-93 19:39 270fa89c0ff884ee10d1a02a1ff9040d FILE_ID.DIZ 278 12-06-95 20:33 343cf830a0975aaaef88327625c97396 COPYSECT.SIG 152 08-06-95 00:00 7a208bb9c283ca3574578edb4215457d CRYPTDSK.SIG 152 06-01-96 01:10 d4eba61786e984d2b3e7576c5629abb8 FPART.SIG 152 08-06-95 00:00 82462ce35887ebdc57fb603521e34263 LOGIN.SIG 152 06-01-96 01:09 7fc1f6d8a3292c50b6b790603cf3fa2c SECTSR.SIG 152 08-06-95 00:00 a4cebfb7b0e69a0b678ed3382aeff9a2 The CHK-SAFE program can be obtained at ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/fileutil/cs-251.zip Regards, Edgar W. Swank <edgar(a)Garg.Campbell.CA.US> Edgar W. Swank <Edgar_W._Swank(a)ilanet.org> Home Page: http://members.tripod.com/~EdgarS/index.html Author of SecureDrive Version 1.4b -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMgPttN4nNf3ah8DHAQGCUAP/QMI92acYiyV4v739rvIDM/MVe08+6D+D ZGGZ0dKgSxHLBV9iO+u754R+A3aUGXUM8PFHjGLRFjytFs+dLWo8w5XMqnOYZasJ 26hTSWzgzubNzV2jrnOlcHi4mw5+v5kOjnFycORXaJ/1pNjB2LIB+98DwujPdYDt M+tD0ojh8vc= =KkGX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Edgar W. Swank <edgar(a)Garg.Campbell.CA.US> Edgar W. Swank <Edgar_W._Swank(a)ilanet.org> Home Page: http://members.tripod.com/~EdgarS/index.html

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