December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Information gathering by news servers
by Scott McGuire 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

How much information about what someone reads can be gathered by a news server? Is there an anonymous way to read a public news server, or would a server have to be set up intentionally to allow anonymous reading? Scott

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Courtesy, Clubs and Clinton
by jbugden＠smtplink.alis.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Excerpt from http://www.msnbc.com/news/21324.asp Clinton's golf war Teed-off clubbers grumble president plays too slow, disrupts things Congressional Country Club Secretary Tim May confirms that some members have complained about the president, but insists that "more members are delighted the president is playing at our club." _________ Is there something that Tim isn't telling us? ;-)

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Re: [off-topic] roving wiretaps
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 8:52 AM 8/2/96, David Wagner wrote: >I don't get it. Help me out here-- how can this possibly be constitutional? > >I'm reading the Fourth Amendment to our honored Constitution of the United >States, which proclaims > > [...] > no warrants shall issue, > but upon probable cause, > supported by oath or affirmation, > and *particularly describing the place to be searched*, > and the persons or things to be seized. > >Are we just to strike out that emphasized phrase? What's going on here? >Someone tell me I'm not just having a bad nightmare. The same way the Second Amendment has been turned into a shadow of itself by creative lawyering. ("The Founders did not mean to include AR-15s and .45 Automatics as "guns," as these did not even exist in 1791. Likewise, cellular phones did not exist in 1791, so the Fourth Amendment could not possibly apply to them. Have a nice day.") --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: privacy is a SMOKESCREEN.
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

See. Right-wing nuts are good for something. >from eff: > >CNN reports: "Key members of the Senate blamed House conservatives for >the failure, saying they had insisted on linking proposed new >wiretapping authority for the FBI to an expansion of privacy laws." > >CNN quotes Rep. Charles Schumer (D-NY) as saying that House Republican >leaders "have come up with this smokescreen called privacy".

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Re: Bombs & bomb threats in LA
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:33 AM 8/2/96 -0000, Conrad Walton wrote: >i'm not exactly sure what an acid bomb is, but according to my book, The >Anarchist Cookbook, that I bought in 1972 (was the internet around back >then?), there is a compound called "picric acid" that is "more powerful >than TNT, but has some disadvantages". Picric acid is 2,4,6 trinitrophenol, easily produced by the nitric/sulfuric acid nitration of phenol. If picric acid contains about 15% of water or more, it is rather stable and innocuous. If it is allowed to completely dry out, it then becomes sensitive to detonation with a blasting cap. One disadvantage of picric acid is that it reads with heavy metals (copper, lead, etc) to form unstable picrate salts. >There is also instructions on using an inverted vial of sulpheric acid, >that will then eat thu the stopper at the top (bottom) of the vial. when >the acid makes it thru, then is mixes with Potassium Chloride Potassium _Chlorate_ and causes >a small explosion which sets off the larger explosion in the dynomite >packed around it. It would probably require a booster... Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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my message Re: fbi, crypto, and defcon
by pjb＠ny.ubs.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

in my earlier message of this date, i said: >"i have spent my entire working life providing for myself, asking and taking nothing >from anyone, other than what i earned for myself. i payed for my education and for >everything else that i ever had." maybe i should have taken something, then i would have learned to spell. yes, i know that the correct spelling is 'paid', not 'payed', but sometimes, (often?), my fingers outrun my brain. does this, you ask, also account for the lack of uppercase characters? no, it's just my style, maybe its really laziness. cheers, -paul ps. you will undoubtly also find a few tath, thta, teh, and the like. maybe if i used that microsoft stuff with the spell checker rather than the sun mailtool i could present myself without the plethora of typos. sigh.

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Re: Silliness on cypherpunks
by Omegaman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > The first issue is the seemingly sincere attempts at answering questions > that are obviously irrelevant. IMO cypherpunks are not "Mr. Answer Man" > for every question someone has regarding computers or electrical > engineering. Sure, most of us are pretty capable of answering these > questions - that doesn't mean that we should. At most, they might be privately directed to the appropriate URL or other reference. Some take the time to answer such questions by providing an exercise which should lead the individual to the answer. Chances are, though, that they're perfectly aware of Schneir's book and numerous other FAQ's of relevance. That means most likely we're dealing with laziness - which does not deserve a response > Whenever I asked a silly > question at home, my dad used to tell me - "look it up". The process of > finding the answer was actually far more important than the answer itself. > We should attempt to ignore these kinds of questions. Maybe eventually > they will go away. I believe that's called "learning." Unfortunately, far too many people engage in what I call "willful ignroance." I'm not an engineer. I'm not a mathmetician. I don't fully understand everything I've read here. If I'm interested, however, I look further and read up on the subject so I can make informed queries if needed. Some seem to think that this list is cruel to newcomers by posting sarcastic responses to newbie inquiries. This list assumes some amount of prior knowledge on the part of it's members. It is not the place for "what does PGP stand for?" questions. > My other "peeve of the day" is the wonderful introduction of the "mee too" > postings to cypherpunks. me too. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMgJSYab3EfJTqNC9AQHXqwP/YUx5mtuDZTV4G6T//DsOZHtWqKo19+sN mUEWKFa0DkErukEXnNIhSXgQjtkknp/AJEP2UQ04JE5cIoVB8ti2tpeB+qLFJUvi pd149EYzQC+da0l0rSDWARtciWv642ZX5fdrCn7388tpxnCsTlnSLziaQVM7E9+S ZZ2etwMCQd8= =796N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Omegaman <omega(a)bigeasy.com> PGP Key fingerprint = 6D 31 C3 00 77 8C D1 C2 59 0A 01 E3 AF 81 94 63 send a message with the text "get key" in the "Subject:" field to get a copy of my public key. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Freeh slimes again: Digital Telephony costs $2 billion now ...
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 18:29 8/1/96, Timothy C. May wrote: >(With the Internet Phone deals--even Intel is entering the market--why are >there no widespread uses of PGP or S/MIME? Yes, I know about about PGPhone, >and also the Nautilus product, but none seem to be used by anyone I know. >Maybe we should spend some time talking about the practical realities of >these tools.) The sound quality really isn't there, unless you have a fast machine or a fat pipe. In addition, the vast majority of Intel based computers lack the crucial (for user acceptance) full-duplex soundcard. Add to that the physical impossibility of getting decent real time services over a non-isochronous network, such as the Internet, I'net phones just don't provide suffcient speech quality for business/serious personal use even without the added overhead of crypto. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. Defeat the Demopublican Unity Party. Vote no on Clinton/Dole in November. Vote Harry Browne for President.

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List for crypto minus political rubbish
by wwoelbel＠midwest.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am looking for a source of info on crypto. While this list is of interest to (many) people, I find that the amount of political ranting outweighs any nuggets of information concerning cryptography. Pointers? Bill

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Re: URGENT: Surveillance Bill Gets New Life - House Vote lLikely TODAY!
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 3:06 PM 8/2/96, Jonah Seiger wrote: >It's not over yet.... > >The House has scheduled a vote on "suspension" for a 'counter-terrorism' >bill TODAY (Friday). > >Despite media reports that the negotiations had stalled out, house >Republicans have apparently worked out their differences and are set to >vote on the bill today. The Senate may or may not vote on the measure on >Saturday. > >No one I've talked to knows for sure what's in the bill, though I have >heard that there are no encryption provisions and that some of the wiretap >proposals have been scaled back. I doubt any of the Congressjerks know what's in the thing they've voting on, either. This is the American way: wait 'til the last minute, pull a couple of "all nighters," go on vacation, and then claim ignorance. It worked when we were in school, so, hey, why not run the government the same way? ("I had no idea of what was in the Communications Decency Act...it just sounded like the "decent" thing to vote for."....."You mean the Anti-Terrorism Bill suspends habeus corpus? What's that? I'll ask my staffers to look into it.") Fuck 'em all. Fawkes had it wrong...they're not worth the powder to blow 'em to hell. All we can do is work on technological workarounds. Making their $2 billion Wiretap Boondoggle a worthless exercise is a start. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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