December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by Michael Camp 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I just subscribed and what the hey is pgp. Pretty good privacy? -Think global, act local, recycle! Michael Camp a037716t(a)bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us

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Re: Comments on MicroPayments and the Web
by Bruce Baugh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:22 PM 6/13/96 -0700, Hal wrote: >Consider two sites, one which acts as a proxy and cache but which >charges something under a penny per page, and another which acts for >free. Won't the for-pay site be able to afford a larger disk, more >servers, and better net connections? It will be a superior service. Just like commercial crypto, servers, news clients, and the like are all superior to the free versions? -- Bruce Baugh bruce(a)aracnet.com http://www.aracnet.com/~bruce

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pretty good reputation
by Vipul Ved Prakash 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

a pretty good detour. by what i understand pgp's "web of trust" scheme has flaws. according to pgp (alice trusts jane, jane trusts snoopy, bob trusts alice) implies bob trusts snoopy. this means that alice trusts jane to the extent, that if jane trusts a third person, then a fourth person who trusts alice automatically trusts that third person. deducing such results from a simple shades of trust system cannot lead to a reliable web of trust. thats common sense. what is required is a reputation system wherein trust is _qualified_ rather than _quantified_. its senseless to say i trust him five units. it will be more appropriate if pgp has a separate tag for "type of trust" or something like that. this kind of thing can be difficult to handle, since it a fuzzy parameter. add to the problem a global-system like internet where all communication is not person to person. i was wondering if there are any working mathematical models for reputation systems, and how successful they are. vipul ved prakash

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Re: Comments on MicroPayments and the Web
by Bruce Baugh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:54 AM 6/15/96 -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: >> Just like commercial crypto, servers, news clients, and the like are all >> superior to the free versions? > >Software and hardware follow different rules. This is true enough. On the other hand, it's true that money by itself is not (in my experience) the deciding factor on the quality of a service provider. I moved some months ago from the biggest ISP in town to one with a much smaller resource base but greatly superior service in the areas that mattered to me (fast news, reliable mail, etc). The guy in charge is making better use of what he's got. On the gripping hand, if my current provider had the other provider's bucks, things could _really_ fly. -- Bruce Baugh bruce(a)aracnet.com http://www.aracnet.com/~bruce

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Re: doubleclick monitoring web browsing habits
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 14 Jun 96 at 14:26, Hal wrote: > When I run lynx (2.3.7 beta) to <URL: > http://www.anonymizer.com/cgi-bin/snoop.pl >, it says: > > Here's a sampling of the kind of information that a site can collect > on you (please wait a moment): > Your computer is a Unix box. > Your Internet browser is Lynx. > You are coming from jobe.shell.portal.com. > You just visited the Anonymizer Home Page. > > No user name here. I visited there from Netscape. Didn't give my user name but apparently said "You are affiliated with ASB Internet, Inc. ..." and then displayed a bunch of advertising info by ISP puts out. An amusing thought: fill the personal info fields with business advertisements. Perhaps people who surf the web regularly can sell advertising space. (insert smiling emoticon here) > Also, when I follow a mailto: link it asks me to input the email address > I want the mail to be from! So I don't think it is using local user name > information, although certainly that is potentially available to it. Have you tried mailing yourself by putting something else in there? I remember trying that and seeing from the headers that I sent it (the usual "Received by ..." username -> machine paths.) Of course that was on a University's computer system, so they may have patched the sources. Rob --- No-frills sig. Befriend my mail filter by sending a message with the subject "send help" Key-ID: 5D3F2E99 1996/04/22 wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com (root@magneto) AB1F4831 1993/05/10 Deranged Mutant <wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com> Send a message with the subject "send pgp-key" for a copy of my key.

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Re: doubleclick monitoring web browsing habits
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 14 Jun 96 at 18:06, Mark M. wrote: [..] > but it is not enough to satisfy my paranoia. I would be truely satisfied if > Netscape would prompt for an e-mail address whenever it sends mail or post to > usenet. When I used to read the list over hks.net (still down, eh?) I would change my name (and sometimes address, for quasi-anonymity) with no problems... you just have to do that *before* you try to reply. (Free)Agent newsreader will let you do that as part of the reply as well. It'll still show the path and machine that sent news, but it allows you to change From:, Reply-To: and Sender: fields. Rob. --- No-frills sig. Befriend my mail filter by sending a message with the subject "send help" Key-ID: 5D3F2E99 1996/04/22 wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com (root@magneto) AB1F4831 1993/05/10 Deranged Mutant <wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com> Send a message with the subject "send pgp-key" for a copy of my key.

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Trits
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

As a complement to Jim Choate's forward on the "trits" communication research, we suggest perusing an interview of the philosopher Paul Virilio. Here're are excerpts from the interview available at: http://pwp.usa.pipeline.com/~jya/silence.txt PAUL VIRILIO: I have to take a detour through physics here, and this is one of the differences between and Baudrillard and myself. Unlike him, I have a formal scientific education (that's why physics and military sciences kept me busy for a very long time). In the past, reality was a matter of mass; then it became mass + force. Today, reality is the outcome of: mass + force + information. Matter has now become truly three-dimensional. This is a clear break. What we have witnessed in Italy, with Berlusconi seizing power, is the first successful media-coup in history. Italy is again Europe's avant-garde, and is showing us where the new political alternative resides - in a realm where "left" or "right" are no longer relevant. The new political alternative is between the old political class on one side, and the new media-class on the other. With Italy, the media-class has now seized power in Europe. It will also happen in the United States, in France, in Spain, and elsewhere. CARLOS OLIVEIRA: Do you see some kind of media-fascism looming on the horizon? PAUL VIRILIO: No, because what I see is far worse! Due to its overwhelming power, the totalitarianism of the information-medium is going to be even more powerful than the traditional political totalitarianism of the old national-socialist or communist hues. The dangers are looming larger. I repeat: only if one is guarded against its dangers will it be possible to enjoy the positive aspects of the developments in the realm of new technologies. CARLOS OLIVEIRA: In your eyes, is there any way out of this rather bleak situation? PAUL VIRILIO: An accompanying evil here is the end of writing, as it unfolds through image technology, cinema/film, and television-screen. These new developments threaten the ability to conjure up mental images with oblivion. The typical modern human is characterized by a life under the dictatorship of the screen, to which the written word falls victim. We don't read any more, we hardly write each other - since we can call each other on the phone. Next, we will no longer speak! I'd really like to say: this will indeed be the silence of the lambs!

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Re: [noise] (was Re: PBS show)
by AwakenToMe＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Now what is actually (in depth pleaseeee) protected and real mode? Has there been any talk of intel possibly fixing this conventional mem problem in future chips????? Thanks.. Adam

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Here we go again
by stevenw＠best.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Copyright 1996 Nando.net Copyright 1996 The Associated Press SEOUL, South Korea (Jun 15, 1996 00:41 a.m. EDT) -- For a Canadian university student, creating an Internet site on North Korea was simply opening a small library on the reclusive nation. For South Korean authorities, it was threat to national security. Last week, South Korea declared David Burgess' World Wide Web site subversive and ordered 14 local computer networks with Internet links to block public access to it. The government also said it would punish anyone accessing North Korean web sites, taking its ideological war with its Marxist enemy into cyberspace. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Weller | Technology (n): | | A substitute for adulthood. stevenw(a)best.com | Popular with middle-aged men.

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Re: Fuseable Links - no guarantees??
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:44 PM 6/14/96 -0400, Warren wrote: >I have never paid much attention to the protection of firmware or the >technical issues revolving around such schemes...was wondering: > >I recently saw an add for a UK based group that says they can take a PIC >OTP micro and read the prom (for a fee, of course) - How the heck is this >done?? I have my suspicion that they (somehow) magically peel off the >ceramic coating (without destroying the chewy center), get a circuit mask >and 'micro probe' the I/O of the IC...they then download the secret recipe >to the afore mentioned 'chewy center'. > >Is this close to accurate?? How is it 'done' ??? While I have never come even close to needing to attempt this kind of thing, long ago it occurred to me that if the "no read" bit was stored in a programmable bit, and if the location of that bit was known or could be identified, you could expose that particular bit through a tiny mask hole and cause the part to be readable again. Locating that bit (assuming there's just one) would be relatively simple: Take a test part, program it, read-lock it, and then expose it to a VERY slowly sliding mask with UV behind. Do this for both axes, to find the bit's location on the chip. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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