December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: [WhoWhere?]
by Gunjan Sinha 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am sorry if you misunderstood my previous email. We are ex-Stanford grad, not current students! The WhoWhere? database is collected through a combination of technolofy, partnerships, and self-registrations by end-users. Our content is from publicly available sources. We run crawlers for Newsgroups and WWW to collect our content. Several Thousand individuals come to WhoWhere? to add theor listing every day. Hope I have been able to clarify your confusion. Gunjan WhoWhere? Inc. > From llurch(a)networking.stanford.edu Sun Apr 28 04:54:21 1996 > Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 04:43:36 -0700 (PDT) > From: Rich Graves <llurch(a)networking.stanford.edu> > To: Gunjan Sinha <gunjan(a)parsecweb.com> > cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: Re: [WhoWhere?] > > You wrote: > > > We would like to bring to your attention the WhoWhere? search engine at > > URL: http://www.whowhere.com If you feel it is appropriate for the > > Stanford community, we would appreciate a link from your "campus > > directory"... > > > > WhoWhere? is an effort by a team from Stanford GSB and engineering school > > and we would appreciate your support of our efforts. > > > > Please feel free to give us any feedback to enhance our service > > to build the largest white pages community. > > Please unplug your server from the Internet immediately, and do not plug > it back in until all database entries based on other than publicly > available information have been scrubbed. Please refer any Stanford > affiliates involved with your project to the thread concerning your > activities in the su.computers newsgroup. > > Thank you. Have a nice day. > > -rich > >

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Keyserver at jpunix.com on WWW
by John A. Perry 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Everyone, I just got through implementing and testing Brian LaMacchia's code for WWW access to the PGP keyserver at jpunix.com. This means that the Web page for jpunix.com can now perform interactive, realtime searches and adds against the keyserver database. If you would like to try it, the URL is: http://www.jpunix.com/pks-toplev.html John Perry - KG5RG - perry(a)alpha.jpunix.com - PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! WWW - http://www.jpunix.com PGP 2.62 key for perry(a)jpunix.com is on the keyservers. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.0, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMYN2llOTpEThrthvAQEyqwP5AT14+2NbvdXdEnr8nxaSUVcLUmA2M0+z PDdOXidleU4P5BesHe0cIO0FdrpLC7EHi7mhg3XgwEeooCv2wGsOf59oGGikaqSl 4WLEvoQQOftVQNeE5vv7mbiYo4M5CZBm/QSu1QK3SD37ohT/pRy+RFu0ldRuxrAl aPSro/koBN8= =pFGr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: WWW Proxies?
by Mark M. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 27 Apr 1996, Ryan Russell/SYBASE wrote: > We use CERN proxies, as well as general purpose proxies, > which effectivly narrows it down to someone within my company. > > But, that only masks the IP address. My impression was that > most browsers hand out enough info about you at the application > layer that it does little good to mask the IP address. At least for > privacy purposes...address translation is a great firewall > model, IMHO. There are anonymous web proxies that remove the headers sent with the HTTP request. This way, it is impossible to track down the user without doing some sort of active monitoring of connections to the proxy. - -- Mark =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= markm(a)voicenet.com | finger -l for PGP key 0xf9b22ba5 http://www.voicenet.com/~markm/ | bd24d08e3cbb53472054fa56002258d5 "The concept of normalcy is just a conspiracy of the majority" -me -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBMYLrg7Zc+sv5siulAQH2OQP9EeKgA0L8ApKBd6D0EsgrsisgldIim7nY GFAPDZqde7wXI09Am5mSTcUOlGYojXiV6lxxB/UZ/Dq/7Q2ZaahhF+gPefnRKLtb VmHMK2mkkJB76OhUvMDC69FYg5IoZTe2yBhnYpaglu1oqK1DVSNMJTKKt27KPsWj lGCoDjdIKg8= =zk1P -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: CryptoAnarchy: What's wrong with this picture?
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:21 AM 4/28/96 -0400, mkj(a)october.segno.com wrote: >Sandy Sandfort wrote: >> Income tax is the Godzilla of taxes. It is THE TAX when it comes >> to the US. (Perhaps VAT has a similar status elsewhere, but both, >> as pointed out, are subject to crypto-anarchistic subversion.) >> >> > ...taxes existed, and governments sustained themselves perfectly >> > well, long before these systems arose. >> >> But at nowhere near the voracious levels of modern states. > >This is a point I hadn't considered. If the govt doesn't know where >most of the money is, they can't "harvest" it nearly as efficiently. >Although they will almost certainly try to extract as much as possible >from the poor, you can't get blood from a stone. Hence the size of >current governments will undoubtedly have to shrink. >Most other arguments put forth so far in this thread, about how people >"won't stand for" certain government behaviors and so forth, I don't >find convincing. Modern military technologies, especially in the >U.S., make the prospects of a sucessful popular uprising dubious. Then you obviously haven't read the essay (AP) I sent you yesterday. "Military technologies" only work effectively against a military target. Kill civilians and you just make other civilians angry. At that point they'll be look for a weapon that "military technologies" cannot effectively oppose. That weapon is already known to be possible. Quite the contrary, I think that a "successful popular uprising" will require only a very small investment in time and money, in which some of they key players in government are targeted and the prospect exists for easily and cheaply getting the rest. At that point they will resign in droves. > >When you cut off someone's air supply, even the nicest, gentlest >person will go into an unrestrained, murderous frenzy. I expect >something similar will happen to even the most "civilized" governments >within the next few years, as popular crypto begins to cut off their >money supply. As I see it, only those relatively few citizens who can >afford to flee will dare to resist. Please read the essay. I think it may enlighten you. Even with "conventional" analysis, there is no reason to believe that governement will be able to avoid shrinking. Aside from making it easier to avoid taxation, the vast increase in information communicated by the Internet is taking a huge amount of power away from the traditional media, and the media is (despite the illusion they want you to believe!) the main backer of the government in most cases. In addition, this information flow is making it ever more difficult to pass abusive laws; if the government does something stupid in the morning, by noon they are being flooded with faxes and emails. And the whole concept of having a "governement" tends to be based on the assumption that people are incapable of making decisions for themselves. That's an increasingly unrealistic position. Government feeds on its own size; once government is dramatically reduced below its current size, it will become even less able to resist further contraction. Probably few government employees realize this. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: code vs cypher
by jamesd＠echeque.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:41 AM 4/28/96 -0700, Rich Graves wrote: > I'm learning how to resist being trolled -- Michael > Loomis's laughable "Rich Graves, Holocaust fetishist" was a good test), I believe Rich Loomis was referring to the fact that this is cypherpunks not holocaust punks. You continually bring up this irrelevant topic whenever someone complains about your egregious statism on other issues: We are sick to the back teeth with hearing what a good guy you have been on Nazism and the holocaust. We do not give a shit. We gave a shit the first time, but we are up to about the hundredth time and counting. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Re: CryptoAnarchy: What's wrong with this picture?
by jamesd＠echeque.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:21 AM 4/28/96 -0400, mkj(a)october.segno.com wrote: > Modern military technologies, especially in the > U.S., make the prospects of a sucessful popular uprising dubious. By this argument the Soviet Empire could never fall. Governments are rarely overthrown. Rather, they collapse. Governments continually struggle to maintain cohesion. Sometimes they fail. They do not naturally have cohesion. A government is not naturally a single thing, not an entity by nature, the way a person is an entity by nature. > When you cut off someone's air supply, even the nicest, gentlest > person will go into an unrestrained, murderous frenzy. I expect > something similar will happen to even the most "civilized" governments > within the next few years, as popular crypto begins to cut off their > money supply. False on two counts: First "frenzy" is exactly the opposite of what the government needs to stay in one piece, to continue to be a government. Secondly, when you cut of someones air supply, they do not necessarily defend themselves. I think I may have reported in cypherpunks my little experiment in Cuba when I cut off a cop's air supply, to test my hypothesis that even the cuban cops have a slave mentality. People frequently fail to defend themselves, when suitably intimidated, and this is basically what governments rely upon. If governments have to start pulling guns all the time, they will fall. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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NEW ON THE NET
by goldencareers.com＠renoir.webservices.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Mindshare and Java
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:41 PM 4/28/96 -0400, Moltar Ramone wrote: >(I'm not agreeing with this... but you can't prove you're _not_ a Nym. >Jim Bell has claimed (well, implied that he believes, although he hasn't >outright claimed) that I'm L.D. and/or Black Unicorn. I don't recall ever implying this... Could you be more specific? I've noticed a bit of coordination, but is there any more than this? Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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17 Dec '03

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PGP and pseudonyms
by Steve Reid 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Suppose someone were using a pseudonym, and had a seperate PGP key for this pseudonym. If this person's secret keyring were stolen, could person=pseudonym be revealed, based on the key ID? Or would it require knowing the passphrase? ===================================================================== | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | | Email: steve(a)edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | | PGP Fingerprint: 11 C8 9D 1C D6 72 87 E6 8C 09 EC 52 44 3F 88 30 | | -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, IANAL. -- | ===================================================================:)

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