December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by Jeremiah Harmsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Notes from the SF Physical Cypherpunks meeting
by Matts Kallioniemi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:29 1996-05-12 -0700, Martin Minow wrote: >COM e-mail/bbs system (Sweden) -- operator could backup >e-mail, but not read it. Sure. The database was encrypted by using XOR with the string "KOM". That was the sorry state of encryption in the early eighties. Matts

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Cybercash snake oil merchant
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've located a new snake oil merchant, by the name of cybank. Their url is http://www.cybank.net, and they're claiming things like "public key encryption has been broken." Well, yes... if you use a too-short key length. -Allen

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KWTX (fwd)
by anonymous-remailer＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Subject: KWTX Vincent Miller / April 25, 1996 International Society for Individual Liberty (ISIL) Update Letter --------------------excerpt------------------------------------ The Onslaught Against American Liberties Escalates The US Justice Department is currently suing radio station KWTX in Texas over what they term "malicious disregard for the truth in reporting on Waco". If convicted the station will be both civilly and criminally liable for any alleged harm caused to property or government agents. This is of course ironic. In a sea of federal propaganda, and self-serving FBI-ATF press releases, the small radio and TV stations (and the Internet) were the Only source of real information about what actually happened at Waco. Even before this case has been heard the judge revealed his bias by stating that he thought the conduct of the station was "outrageous." Source: CBS Evening News with Dan Rather (Apr 19th). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ISIL, 1800 Market Street, San Francisco, CA 94102 415-864-0952, fax 415-864-7506 This organization gives permission to reprint provided that proper credit is given. --------------------------------------------------------------------

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FYB_oss
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

5-12-96. NYPaper: "Who's Reading Your E-Mail? Maybe the Boss. More Companies Say Messages Are Their Property." Reports on various spying policies and employee rights. Quotes PRZ demurring: "You don't check your constitutional rights at the door." Notes Apple's snooping not. And, scare-escrowing, it asks, "what happens if an employee encrypts important company documents, and then dies [or is fired or extorts]. How will the company get to vital information." FYB_oss

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Re: Notes from the SF Physical Cypherpunks meeting
by Tom Weinstein 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

sameer(a)c2.org wrote: > > > c2.org: 90% of all connections are 40-bit RC2. > > The number is 94.5%, and it's RC4, not RC2. RC2 is not in any > SSLv2 products. The domestic version of Netscape has always done RC2. The export version of Netscape 3.0 now does 40-bit RC2 in SSL v2 mode. -- One tag to rule them all, One tag to find them; One tag | Tom Weinstein to bring them all, and in the source tree bind them. | tomw(a)netscape.com

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Civil liberties of employees (Re: FYB_oss)
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:03 PM 5/12/96, John Young wrote: > 5-12-96. NYPaper: > > "Who's Reading Your E-Mail? Maybe the Boss. More Companies > Say Messages Are Their Property." > > Reports on various spying policies and employee rights. > Quotes PRZ demurring: "You don't check your constitutional > rights at the door." Notes Apple's snooping not. > Actually, one _does_ check one's Constitutional rights "at the door" (of an employer), and the confusion over this issue is pervasively destroying real Constitutional rights. For instance, if I hire someone, I can require him or her to wear a uniform, to not wear blue jeans to work, to not smoke (or even to smoke, if this is what the job involves), to take off his or her clothes, to tap dance, to not say anything to my customers, and on and on. If the government required these behaviors, this would be a legitimate issue, but not if employers set these conditions as terms of continued employment. If an employer says that all messages will be read by him, this is not a violation of anyone's "civil liberties." (And, on a practical note, companies are often held responsible for the messages emanating on company time from employees, so there are actual reasons why such monitoring may be necessary.) An employee who dislikes the terms of his employment is of course free, in our society, to leave. The Constitution is about what the government can and cannot require, not about what I as an employer can require. This point is frequently confusing to people who, in my opinion, haven't thought about it. Thus, a "Hooters girl" suddenly decides she doesn't like "displaying herself" to men and announces that her civil liberties are being violated by being told to wear skimpy outfits. (I haven't read Zimmermann's comments in full, to get the full context, but I doubt we'll agree on such things. His achievement with PGP was considerable, but I know from first-hand experience that his political views are very non-libertarian and are, in fact, counter to liberty.) --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Notes from the SF Physical Cypherpunks meeting
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'd like to thank Martin Minow for his summary of what happened at yesterday's Bay Area Cypherpunks meeting (note that it was Bay Area, held at Stanford, not "SF"). Clarifications and corrections are starting to come in, which is fine. But these clarifications and corrections should not dissuade Martin or anyone else from doing such summaries. This meeting was somwhat languid, I think because of the outdoor (and warm!) location at Tresidder Union at Stanford University...normally our meetings have been held in the cool corporate environs of Cygnus, Silicon Graphics, or Sun, but Stanford is the likely meeting place for upcoming gatherings. (For one thing, an outdoor gathering at Stanford makes it unnecessary for a corporate type to be there. We are also too big a group--about 20-40, typically--to meet in a coffee shop or pizza joint.) For whatever reason, only a handful of such summaries have ever been done in the three and a half years our group and other groups have been having physical meetings. (I did a couple, but not for the past couple of years.) Anyway, well done! --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Notes from the SF Physical Cypherpunks meeting
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I would also like to thank martin for his notes. I was unable to attend the meeting and the notes are the best I can do. A small correction and some pointers: At 9:29 AM 5/12/96 -0700, Martin Minow wrote: >KEYCOS Started in TimeShare, early 1970's. Ran customers (competitors) The correct spellings are KeyKOS and Tymshare. That may help people searching for other information. URLs for KeyKOS information are: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~KeyKOS/ http://www.agorics.com/agorics/allkey.html Also, a system being built on similar ideas is described at: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~eros ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Re: Why I Pay Too Much in Taxes
by nobody＠replay.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Robin Powell wrote: >>>>>> Black Unicorn <unicorn(a)schloss.li> writes: > > On Sun, 12 May 1996, Mixmaster wrote: > >> if you spend $50k. Or do it yourself for $1k. Start by reading > >> everything from Scope (www.britnet.co.uk/scope) The books you find > > ^^^^^ > >> there cover everything you need to know in perfect detail. > > > Woops. What dwindling credibility you had in my view is now gone. > > Poof and -PLOINK-. > > > (I suggest cypherpunks so interested pursue other options). > >Any particular reason why this statement lost that person's >credibility for you that you'd like to share with us? Have someone >say, "Man, that site sucks!" is of very little use without knowing >what the problem is so we can avoid it in the future. The reason should be obvious from the earlier discussion. Mr. Unicorn is in the deluxe tax planning business. He is worried that his costomers will stop paying $50-100k for his services if they find out that they just need to spend $100 in the book store for even better advice. X -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBMZdmjVtwWVJrMFYlAQG/7Qf/Znhd2nJlWsKCsgQ0GYBbxcYJLqHL+4tw Dmco49A17P3wbukKxMxY/5qkNEFZTBfLZXsH+pmkWNncv+5OYrMqjusV1OnAB8Ab 3eDWrNH3i7ga6yf1AHPg54nwOBFXDgMNG3U76tQwSb9NWF7YCMah+3TEtBlNi5/9 nSnq7fLKQjc3wT37DwaZHxbOOSloEPuJKD3WTxdCvfkL4lu9HcAFN2oBjag3XDu/ ikpxNJzRsYwzpCOgMX4cXxDY3E5cHKrxdi1XRj1cfgIR//C1kqnV9VgWpfbm/qBh PT8GFdjLT/r9y1t4TUhjJC7GPWhIbFDwjsTFD/bATWwsnfQ8pTTHPQ== =XDO+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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