December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: HP & Export of DCE
by Dana W. Albrecht 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Adam Shostack writes: > > Well, if Leahy passes, DCE is exportable. Anyone know if the > > 'SecureRPC' in DCE is the one BAL broke years back? > > No, they broke Sun's Secure RPC, which is different. > > I must admit that I've never done a serious security analysis of DCE > RPC, though... > > Perry Where can one find detailed information regarding the (in)security of Sun's "Secure" RPC? Specifically, pointers to actual papers by those who have compromised it (both in theory and practice as relevant) would be appreciated. Thanks! Dana W. Albrecht dwa(a)corsair.com

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Re: What backs up digital money?
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 6:39 PM 3/27/96 -0800, Mike Duvos wrote: >Real electronic currency could be invented, but would have to >live its life within a population of tamper-proof smart cards >communicating with each other through secure protocols. Whether >anyone will bother to implement such a system remains to be seen. Sounds like the Mondex system, so I guess someone already has. I think the url is www.mondex.com, but I could be wrong. Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Re: unsubscrive
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:13 PM 3/27/96, Maurizio wrote: >unsubscrive cypherpunks Ah, a new spelling to be added to the archives. So far, we've got: undescribe unscribe unsubbscribe The penalty for not paying attention being continued receipt of 50 mail messages a day! --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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unsubscrive
by Maurizio 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

unsubscrive cypherpunks

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Re: Why Americans feel no compulsion to learn foreign languages
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 9:37 PM 3/27/96, Alan Bostick wrote: >In article <ad7e4b691902100484d7(a)[205.199.118.202]>, >tcmay(a)got.net (Timothy C. May) wrote: > >> Americans are typically thousands of miles away from those speaking >> Japanese, Mandarin, Tagalog, Polish, Italian, Dutch, Spanish, Hindi, >> Talegu, and the hundreds of other languages. It is not at all clear what >> language Americans should pick as a "second language" to study. > >What continent do you live on? As I write this my next-door neighbor's >stereo is blaring out music in Yoruba. When I took my mother to the Your point being? My point was not that America is monolingual but that, in fact, the polyglot nature makes no particular language or small group of languages stand out as a compelling candidate for study. You want to study Yoruba, fine. It might be interesting. It might help you to follow the lyrics of your neighbor's music. But I don't find it compelling to study in the same way that English is important to study. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Let's *NOT* "Raise their Awareness"
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 8:23 AM 3/27/96, Charles Bell wrote: >Yes, and some years ago a State legislature (I forget which) passed a >resolution setting the value of pi at exactly 3. I'm not sure how they >planned to enforce their will. Do you know how the Texas judge means to >enforce his? By the way, this is a wonderful story to tell about the stupidity of government, but, alas, most of it is urban legend. The Tennessee or Kentucky (I forget which) state legislature did not actually pass such a law....it was merely _proposed_ by some particular legislator, and then never acted upon. (I suspect an Alta Vista search might turn something up on this.) As to the Texas court order...all sorts of restrictions are often imposed in divorce custody cases (which this is). Sometimes it's that a child shall not be exposed to second-hand smoke from one of the spouses (this has happened here in California, such restrictions, that is), sometimes it's other things. Enforcement is by testimony of the child and reporting of violations to the court. Child Protective Services probably has no involvement. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: <languages>
by Asgaard 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I agree that for a native English/American speaker to learn other languages is mostly a waste of time (if you are not a spy; or businessman having to deal with constipated French etc). Only if you permanently move to another country the situation gradually becomes different. Americans who move to Sweden (we had a lot of Vietnam war 'deserters' coming way back) can keep on speaking American for a year or so without anyone taking notice (actually if the American tries to speek Swedish the Swedes may deny him to do so, they love to train themselves in speaking English), but then when years pass bye and the American still loves the special attention he receives as an American-speaker and refuses to learn Swedish, the situation will become awkward. I studied German, French, Italian and Russian and am still moderately fluent in German, but I care less and less to keep these languages up since English is more and more becoming the World Language. Asgaard

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RE: ITAR double standards?
by blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Timothy C. May >You're a felon? For real? > Yes. ................................................................. Ah, yes - Tim the Indecent, vis-a-vis X-onomous signatures. Sheut. I thought maybe you'd done something really interesting. .. Blanc

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HP & Export of DCE
by Adam Shostack 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Well, if Leahy passes, DCE is exportable. Anyone know if the 'SecureRPC' in DCE is the one BAL broke years back? I asked a few DCE supporters this, and never got an answer, so I suspect they're still shipping bogus crypto. Adam ----- Forwarded message from Anonymous ----- As I sit, somewhere not in North America, I can see a CD-Rom from Hewlett-Packard, which I've had since last year. Recently I received the following letter. I've attempted to retype its contents accurately. ---------8<--------8<--------8<--------8<--------8<--------8<--------8< [HP Logo] Hewlett-Packard Company Software and Information Delivery Operation, SST 690 East Middlefield Road Mountain View, California 94043 415/968-9200 Dear HP-UX Support Customer, Hewlett-Packard has uncovered a bundling problem in the DCE-Core fileset that is on the October HP-UX Application Release 10.0 s700/800 Application CDs. These products were bundled such that they are not compliant with U.S. Government export regulations. The part numbers for the affected CDs and products are listed below.

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Re: So, what crypto legislation (if any) is necessary? (Was List O' , shame)
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 1:32 PM 3/25/96 -0500, Black Unicorn wrote: >All it would take is one anti-trust case with encryption as a concealing >method and people would be busting down doors at night looking for PGP. Back in the dark ages, IBM built an audio messaging system. It was quite popular in "cave of the winds" (IBM headquarters) because it allowed busy executives to leave audio memos for each other without needing a secretary to type them. Since storage was limited, and old messages were purged from the system it also had the effect that anti-trust discovery would have nothing to discover. Regards - Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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