December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by owner-cypherpunks＠toad.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone have ANY code for DES or RSA encryption for use on a PIC microcontroler? A friend and I are developing an ASCII terminal (dumb term) that encrypts data going to the serial port and decrypts data coming from the serial port, so you could successfully send a message over a modem and have it automatically encrypted\decrypted. We have all the hardware almost done, but we are having a hell of a time writing the code for the encryption... Thanx in advance... l8r, -MeRC merc(a)redrose.net -or- merc(a)success.net -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUAMUC05tnn3Dsf47p5AQE6AAP9E/JebLn1UtkOk41IGw/i4XHKckVcI6RH ptBMucqx01sSTxaR8tXPmmkKjz5f3xndxepbbs6nKfoNuSaODWSirOlNvt3i1DWL iUmB9+rUYmwwlpD7t6qyy2XzsAxO/M/nFT4ZxO8wi96nR/Rmp00LvCoK+YcjgQnj HReyQrIl4X+ZAI0DMUCzOgAAAQQAv6IH+OnLeP+chsgwymSVKqsXHO1xwJLxs657 Cf3miDM3mNBB/qmRziQ1zHeC/nXgaGhR7eAdidL6MngDXl6+cw4Z5xXvenu5MpEW zpZpwDK5/XwuvCIexQP2eHIb2Ms6vna7fUoaHGrrV4844KIVg+E36ZgWT1ZP2efc Ox/junkABRGwAYe0I01pY2hhZWwgRC4gV2hpdGUgPG1lcmNAc3VjY2Vzcy5uZXQ+ sAED =ZbPJ -----END PGP MESSAGE-----

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New crypto bill to be introduced
by Declan B. McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At CFP today, we heard about a new crypto bill being introduced tomorrow, which will be similar to Leahy's bill with the crypto-being-used-in-furtherance-of-crime portion removed and an explicit no-government-mandated-escrow provision added. John Gilmore asked wonderful questions after the moot Supreme Court session. We have put our "List of Shame" numbers on our nametags. -Declan

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Re: Why Americans feel no compulsion to learn foreign languages
by David K. Merriman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 11:49 AM 03/28/96 -0800, frantz(a)netcom.com (Bill Frantz) wrote: >I, at least, want to know something of the language of the countries I >travel in. Being able to get a meal or a room for the night is useful. As >a rock bottom minimum, I want to know the phrases: Hello, Good by, Please, >Thank You, More beer please, and Where's the bathroom. Indeed, I've found that pretty much covers the essentials :-) First things I've always tried to learn in a foreign language are "please" and "thank you". > >The look of pleased surprise on the face of the Budapest resident when I >said "Thank you" to in Hungarian as he gave up his seat to me because I was >loaded down with caving equipment is something I still treasure. > Sounds much similar to the reaction I got in Japan, speaking broken Japanese. Atrocious accent, of course; abysmal grammar, and a fair share of mispronunciation tossed in - but I was *trying*, and that counted for a _lot_. I also have to concur with the point about the language/point-of-view argument. I never have learned to _think_ in a foreign language (a prerequisite for fluency, I believe :-), but have gotten sufficiently skilled to be able to understand some of the subtleties of the languages I've (kind of) learned. Regarding the notoriety of British (and, yes, Americans), I met up with a Brit in Japan who complained about the 'bloody foreigners that don't understand proper English'. I pointed out to him that *we* were the foreigners, and that the Japanese had a nicely organized society about the same time that his ancestors and mine were still smearing themselves with blue mud. That earned me an Evil Look. Dave Merriman -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMVpW7MVrTvyYOzAZAQE/xQP/WhYi/LAT2M/QYJ+b2PW7sOrRg2r0ZNcU gl3gk50RWY7AOUeEaifNM2ZWMl5oqqKSjA+eV5pnFZBlQBgrbnuzRHLi2F9IigZ6 Uu2V3/DHaTGY9ZVdWok0deU8DnkoY0W07pafggB9qpTCgqTGhU0NNOVxeWlU2HsT 6Yu9l5QduHM= =XMSb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------- "Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." P. J. O'Rourke (b. 1947), U.S. journalist. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> http://www.shellback.com/personal/merriman/index.htm

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Re: PolicyMaker paper available
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:15 PM 3/28/96 -0500, Ted Anderson wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >"Perry E. Metzger" <perry(a)piermont.com> writes: >> Huh? Postscript an "obscure printer code"? > >I now work from a paperless office and find postscript an "obscure >printer code". It has taken an annoying amount of hacking to view this >postscript file on my PC. A paperless office is about as useful as a paperless bathroom. Try using Ghostscript and Ghostview. There are versions for both 16 bit and 32 bit Windows. (As well as about every other platform on the planet.) They will allow you to display PostScript files to your screen, as well as print them to non-postscript printers. (But being a paperless office, you probibly don't have printers...) Information on Ghostview and GhostScript can be found at: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon

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Mad_Software_Disease
by anonymous-remailer＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Path: newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e2a.gnn.com!pop.gnn.com!JDonth From: JDonth(a)gnn.com (Joseph L. Donth) Newsgroups: comp.sources.testers Subject: Beta Testers Wanted Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 13:09:55 Organization: InfoBook Technology Lines: 251 Message-ID: <4j9fer$sr1(a)news-e2c.gnn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: www-31-240.gnn.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-GNN-NewsServer-Posting-Date: 26 Mar 1996 19:10:19 GMT X-Mailer: GNNmessenger 1.2 InfoBook Technology is looking for Beta Testers for our latest product called ONE-PHONE-CALL. This post is in four parts: 1) What does a Beta tester do? 2) How Do I Sign-up? 3) How do I get chosen? 4) The product description The product description is quite lengthy. Feel free to bail on it when you have decided to be a tester or have decided not to be one. Note: Since the program includes encryption software, we are restricting our testing (and possible distribution of the commercial release) to people living in the USA. I will restrain from comment on governments, export licenses, the NSA and the like. If you decide not to be a tester, would you drop me a post and tell me why? This is our second posting of this request - our goal is to have at least one hundred testers - so far we have less than two dozen. If you have any thoughts on where else I might post this beta test request and meet with a favorable response please let me know that as well. Thanks and without further delay... ****************************************************************************** ** What Does a Beta Tester Do? Although we will not ask you to sign any agreements, we do ask that you honor the following conditions of our Beta Test Program: 1. The software being tested is not for commercial use. If you use it in a commercial fashion, you do so at your own risk. The software may have 'bugs' in it. The purpose of the beta test program is to identify those problems. 2. Don't give copies of the software (except when authorized) to other people. If you know of someone that you think might be a good beta tester, let us know and we will look at adding him or her to the beta list. 3. Please let us know when you have problems with the software. Don't assume that someone else has reported it. A written response sent to JDONTH(a)GNN.COM, is the requested communication method. 4. We also ask for comments on the whole package you received from us. Did it create a good first impression? Was it complete? Is the User's Guide clear? What would you change? Why? ****************************************************************************** ** How Do I Sign up? Please reply by EMail (JDonth(a)gnn.com) with the following information: 1. Full Name 2. Surface mail and preferred email address 3. City, State and Zip code 4. Attention Line 5. Telephone number 6. An "I agree to the terms of the Beta Test Program" statement 7. Computer system information 8. Computer expertise (optional) 9. Experience as a Beta Tester (no previous experience is required) 10. Why you want to test this product ****************************************************************************** ** How Do I Get Chosen? We will be choosing testers on a first-come, first-serve basis. You are not guaranteed a position as a tester of ONE-PHONE-CALL. If you are chosen you will receive an email confirmation, followed by the software, sent via fist class mail. The software will be a 30+ day version with all features and capabilities. You will be sent an email questionnaire about 30 days after shipment of the software. Your reply to the questionnaire will insure you a FREE copy of the software after it is released into retail sales. If you are not chosen you will be notified by email. If you have any questions, please contact me at JDonth(a)gnn.com or Joseph L. Donth InfoBook Technology 7660 Reed Rd. Azle, Texas 76020 ****************************************************************************** ** What is ONE-PHONE-CALL? ONE-PHONE-CALL is a PC-based software product that enables you to transfer electronic information such as a program, a scanned fax, a word-processing document or a spreadsheet to someone, in a secure environment, with just one telephone call. It features a simple installation, user-friendly interface, mouse support, a menu system, and easy-to-remember commands. First, Some Background More and more of our correspondence is electronic in nature. We use word processors to compose letters and reports. We use spreadsheets to do budgets and financial analysis and we use accounting programs to keep track of everything from the corporate books to our personal checking accounts. The power of these software tools is easily appreciated and the trend is to use our computers in meeting more and more of our daily needs. What is lacking, however, is a simple, easy-to-use method of sharing our electronic information with each other. Using the facilities of fax, EMail or floppy disks has problems. A fax can only transmit printed information, EMail is difficult to use and can be expensive, and mailing floppy disks is very slow. Also, none of these methods is very secure. The wrong people can read a fax, open business mail, or gain access to voice-mail or EMail accounts. Now with your modem equipped computer and ONE-PHONE-CALL you can addresses all of these issues. Let's illustrate with three examples: The first example demonstrates the simplest issue: sharing electronic information with someone else. You are working on a report at home and need to confer with a co-worker in the office. You place a telephone call to your co-worker and discuss the report. You decide he needs to see a copy of the report. Without ONE-PHONE-CALL it might go like this: To fax a copy of the report you might: ... Print out the report on your printer ... Dial his fax number ... Fax the report ... Call him back to tell him the fax has been sent ... Wait for him to get the fax and call you back! The result - at least three phone calls and who knows how much time wasted in printing, faxing, perhaps getting busy signals and so on. Or perhaps you decide to send him an electronic version of the report, via his EMail account. You might: ... Format the document properly for the EMail service to accept ... Dial the EMail service, connect, log-in, and all the rest ... Transmit the report ... Call him back to tell him the report is on the EMail service ... Your co-worker connects to the EMail service ... He downloads the report ... He calls you back. At least four phone calls! And who knows how much money and effort? Now with ONE-PHONE-CALL, you can accomplish the same task with your original phone call. You and your co-worker can stay on the phone and transfer the information back and forth as many times as necessary, without having to make another phone call! A second example demonstrates a more complex problem. The ability to transfer information when you don't know exactly what information needs to be transferred. You have just received a copy of a great new shareware game from the XYZ Software Company. Your brother shares your liking for this company's software and you have exchanged previous shareware games with him. It's a great game and you're pretty sure he'll want a copy too. Without ONE-PHONE-CALL, you have two obvious choices. First, you could upload all the software to his EMail account (see above!) and maybe call him to tell him it's there, or you could copy the software to a floppy disk and mail it to him. If you go the EMail route, you're out the upload time and several dollars. (So is he, on the other end.) If you go with the Postal Service, you're out a buck or so for a floppy and some postage and the software gets there days later. With ONE-PHONE-CALL, it's as simple as calling him, finding out if he wants the software, and sending it right then and there! ONE-PHONE-CALL will even figure out what software he needs (perhaps several of the files are the same as in previous games) and will only send the new files that he doesn't have, and update any files that are out-of-date. We can extend this example to many specific problem areas: You own a software company that operates a customer service line for help with your products. If your customer needs an updated version of the software, you can upload the new software to him immediately, sending him only what he needs, during the one phone call the customer has made to your company. Result! a happy customer. A friend is having a problem with his computer. You suspect he may have a problem with one of his configuration files such as CONFIG.SYS, AUTOEXEC.BAT or one of his Windows INI files. Without using the capabilities of ONE-PHONE-CALL he is either reading you the text of the file over the phone (yea, right!) or he is printing it out to fax it or mail it to you. You get the listing (maybe days from now) and find the problem. You need him to edit his CONFIG.SYS file to fix the problem. "How do I do that?" he asks. You get the idea. With ONE-PHONE-CALL, he simply sends you the files, you edit them on your computer, and send them back, he reboots, and the problem is solved. All with ONE-PHONE-CALL. Our final example highlights the security aspects of electronic information transfer. Have you ever sent a fax and wondered if it went to the wrong machine? Did you dial that number correctly? Or did you wonder if it was "eaten" by the machine? or was read by the wrong people? or fell into the "black hole" of cyberspace? Have you ever wanted to send some confidential information but didn't "quite trust" your on-line service? Have you ever wanted to make sure the right person and ONLY that person sees your communication? Without ONE-PHONE-CALL, the electronic exchange of confidential information can be very difficult. With ONE-PHONE-CALL, your life just got much easier. Here's a hyperbolic example but it makes the point: You have been away at your summer retreat working on the company annual report and budget. It is FULL of confidential information. You need to send it to your CFO back at the office for review and the insertion of some background information that he has in his computer. How do you get it to him? With ONE-PHONE-CALL, you call his office, get him on the phone, and send the document! You KNOW you dialed the right number. You KNOW you have the right person on the line. And by using the encryption feature of the software, you can even deter access to your information in the event of a wiretap. How do you do that without ONE-PHONE-CALL? Minimum System Requirements ONE-PHONE-CALL runs under Windows 95, Windows 3.1 or MS-DOS. System Requirements: For operation under Windows 3.1 or higher: IBM-compatible PC (386 or higher) 4 mb of RAM memory, 8 mb recommended Mouse Hard drive with at least 1 MB of free space 1200, 2400, 9600, 14.4K, 28.8K modem For operation under MS-DOS 3.11 or higher IBM-compatible PC (8088 or higher, 80286 or higher recommended) 640 kb of RAM memory Mouse recommended Hard drive with at least 1 MB of free space 1200, 2400, 9600, 14.4K, 28.8K modem Best Regards, Joe JDonth(a)gnn.com

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Re[2]: Crypto CD UpDate
by Adam Pingitore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Um, why am I getting mail from you people.

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CDT Policy Post 2.12 - Sen. Burns Announces New Bill To Lift Crypto ExportControls
by editor＠cdt.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

----------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____ _____ _______ / ____| __ \__ __| ____ ___ ____ __ | | | | | | | | / __ \____ / (_)______ __ / __ \____ _____/ /_ | | | | | | | | / /_/ / __ \/ / / ___/ / / / / /_/ / __ \/ ___/ __/ | |____| |__| | | | / ____/ /_/ / / / /__/ /_/ / / ____/ /_/ (__ ) /_ \_____|_____/ |_| /_/ \____/_/_/\___/\__, / /_/ \____/____/\__/ The Center for Democracy and Technology /____/ Volume 2, Number 12 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A briefing on public policy issues affecting civil liberties online ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CDT POLICY POST Volume 2, Number 12 March 28, 1996 CONTENTS: (1) Sen. Burns Announces New Bill To Lift Crypto Export Controls (2) Subscription Information (3) About CDT, contacting us This document may be redistributed freely provided it remains in its entirety ** Excerpts may be re-posted by permission (editor(a)cdt.org) ** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) SENATOR BURNS ANNOUNCES BILL TO LIFT CRYPTO EXPORT CONTROLS The battle to roll back the Clinton Administration's encryption policy escalated on Thursday when Senator Conrad Burns (R-MT) announced that he will introduce a new proposal to repeal restrictions on encryption exports and to encourage the growth of electronic commerce. Senator Burns announced the bill via a teleconference during a special session at the Computers, Freedom, and Privacy Conference in Boston, MA. The bill, titled the "Promoting Commerce On-Line in the Digital Age Act" (PROCODE), joins two recent bills introduced earlier this month (S. 1587 and HR 3011) designed to encourage the development of strong, easy-to-use privacy and security products for the Internet. The Burns bill is different from the other proposals in several respects. Specifically, the latest bill does not contain any new criminal provisions or provisions imposing liability on third party key holders. In his presentation today at CFP, Sen. Burns outlined his new bill. Among other things, the "Promoting Commerce On-Line in the Digital Age Act" would: * Allow for the unrestricted export of "mass-market" or "public-domain" encryption programs, including such products as Pretty Good Privacy and popular World Wide Web software. Encryption software and hardware for sale in local software stores or widely available on the Internet would all be exportable under the proposed Act. * Require the Secretary of Commerce to allow the unrestricted export of other encryption technologies if products of similar strength are generally available outside the United States. * Prohibit the Federal Government from imposing mandatory key-escrow encryption policies on the domestic market. * Limit the authority of the Secretary of Commerce to set standards for encryption products. CDT applauds this effort by Senator Burns to put strong privacy and security technologies in the hands of individuals and businesses. CDT is also pleased that the Senator chose the Computers, Freedom, and Privacy Conference as a forum to announce this proposal. The choice of CFP demonstrates that the Internet community is becoming an increasingly important political constituency. CDT looks forward to working with Senator Burns and other members of Congress interested in policies which encourage the development and widespread use of strong privacy protecting technologies for the Global Information Infrastructure. FOR MORE INFORMATION For more information on the cryptography policy debate, including the text of Senator Burns' proposal when available, visit CDT's Cryptography Issues Web Page: http://www.cdt.org/crypto/ Contacts: Center for Democracy and Technology +1.202.637.9800 Daniel Weitzner, Deputy Director, <djw(a)cdt.org> Alan Davidson, Staff Counsel, <abd(a)cdt.org> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- (2) SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION Be sure you are up to date on the latest public policy issues affecting civil liberties online and how they will affect you! Subscribe to the CDT Policy Post news distribution list. CDT Policy Posts, the regular news publication of the Center For Democracy and Technology, are received by more than 9,000 Internet users, industry leaders, policy makers and activists, and have become the leading source for information about critical free speech and privacy issues affecting the Internet and other interactive communications media. To subscribe to CDT's Policy Post list, send mail to policy-posts-request(a)cdt.org with a subject: subscribe policy-posts If you ever wish to remove yourself from the list, send mail to the above address with a subject of: unsubscribe policy-posts ----------------------------------------------------------------------- (3) ABOUT THE CENTER FOR DEMOCRACY AND TECHNOLOGY/CONTACTING US The Center for Democracy and Technology is a non-profit public interest organization based in Washington, DC. The Center's mission is to develop and advocate public policies that advance democratic values and constitutional civil liberties in new computer and communications technologies. Contacting us: General information: info(a)cdt.org World Wide Web: URL:http://www.cdt.org/ FTP URL:ftp://ftp.cdt.org/pub/cdt/ Snail Mail: The Center for Democracy and Technology 1634 Eye Street NW * Suite 1100 * Washington, DC 20006 (v) +1.202.637.9800 * (f) +1.202.637.0968 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- End Policy Post 2.12 3/28/96 -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Crypto CD
by JR＠ns.cnb.uam.es 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:52 AM 3/24/96 -0500, Ben Holiday wrote: >I would plan to put unix/dos/mac all on one CD. I'm thinking that >realistically I can expect 50 megs or so. Possibly as much as 100 if I >find a TON of wonderful text. I burned one such CD this last fall. Oh, well, it wasn't for publishing, although I thought of that at the time. It was mainly to be able to move with me all my data when I switched positions. I included all the Cypherpunks archives, and several international FTP crypto sites in full (ya know, the italian, australian, english, pgp, etc... places). It was well over your "50 megs". And I would find that pretty more useful (if I hadn't it already). :-) Oh, I'm lying. I also did a "purged" version to remove duplicated packages first, when I didn't know if I would have enough sapce in the few CDs I had to burn in the few days I had left. I seem to remember that wasn't as big and maybe in the range that you mentioned. But it was compressed, and hence its usefulnes now is somewhat less since I have to expand everything if I want to get it. I was filling the CDs with other "important to me" stuff, and wanted to save space, but having the space available I don't see any reason not to expand the material. What I'd suggest is a compilation of all main archives, purged from duplications, rearranged rationally (I have it just in the original hierarchies) and all expanded for direct access. If you add to that executables for most packages compiled for a few popular platforms (Mac, PC, Linux and FreeBSD come to mind), I'd bet that you'd get a far greater amount of space. But that's a lot of additional work though. I know from experience. It might do for a very nice cypherpunk project. Although, there still remains the "trustfulness" of the product: how can the final user know that the sources, executables, key databases, etc... have not been tampered with? From the original archives one has the truth one poses on them, but from a copy, one needs to trust the copier. And if it became a multi-person project, all the people involved... But it's well worth a thought o two. If it helps you, my CDs are probing now invaluable to me. jr

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No Subject
by owner-cypherpunks＠toad.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

os <os(a)cs.strath.ac.uk> writes: > >There is not a single foreign language I can think of it that would help me > >in my goals or help anyone I know. > > I have never known anyone being disadvantaged by knowing another language tha > tongue. Tim (and others) miss out the pleasure of using an exotic language in the presense of people who won't understand it. --- Dr. Dimitri Vulis Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Re: Crypto CD
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:53 PM 3/27/96 -0800, Matthew Ghio wrote: >alano(a)teleport.com (Alan Olsen) wrote: > >>It would be a nice thing to have if it is reletivly complete. Hopefully it >>can be created with a minimum of government interfearence. (But then, I >>have been xpecting alt.binaries.crypto to be created as well...) > >alt.binaries.warez.crypto has existed for a long time (at least on Netcom), >although I haven't seen any posts lately. I suspect many sites deliberately >exclude alt.binaries.warez.* to save disk space. I notice that Netcom takes *EVERYTHING*. (Including the incredibly bogus and silly groups.) Teleport has never, to my knowledge, taken that group. Teleport has since removed all of the remaining warez groups in an effort of moral excess. (After taking all of the groups in existance, including the forign ones that nobody on Teleport reads, and claiming they did not censor groups.) Personally I could care less about the warez groups (it is not as if you could ever find a complete program), but the crypto one would have been nice to see... --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon

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