December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: url
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 2:52 PM 2/22/96 -0500, Perry E. Metzger wrote: >Mike McNally writes: >> At <URL:http://www.osf.org/~loverso/javascript/track-me.html> find >> some interesting "surveillance" applications of Javascript. > >Okay. We have some netscape people here on this list. > >When is the patch to let you disable JavaScript inside Netscape going >to go out? Its more than time. Why Perry, it's called Netscape 1.1N. :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Re: Digital Signature Legislation
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I find it interesting to note that Dr. Biddle's concerns on the economic aspects of the legislation are almost the reverse of those on the cypherpunks list. For instance, he is concerned about too much liability by the consumer (and I would agree that the "strict liability" rather than "negligence" model is a problem). The concern on the list has been that there is too much liability for the CA, given the potential of unlimited liability for all transactions such as Dr. Biddle appears to be favoring. -Allen

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Re: Public Access Obsolete. Capitalism offers free email
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"fletch(a)ain.bls.com" "Mike Fletcher" 22-FEB-1996 03:53:16.20 > Who says the code has to run on their machine. Just forward >all incoming mail off to another box, and send all the outgoing mail out >from the free account. Depending of course on whether it's some sort >of shell account or if you POP/SMTP to their box. I'd guess it's some sort of dialin (possibly via tymnet or some such). In that case, you'd simply have your remailer on your system at home, calling the system up at some (probably randomly determined) time and downloading the incoming mail and uploading whatever outgoing mail that (given latency) you wanted to go out at that point. (Any on-encrypted email, such as their ads, you'd be able to filter out very easily). You could even potentially run it off of a portable computer. For unattended running, the hardware RNG would be best, of course. -Allen

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Re: Internet Privacy Guaranteed ad (POTP Jr.)
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"lull(a)acm.org" 22-FEB-1996 13:20:54.73 >In any case, throwing away some selected portion of its output is NOT >an appropriate cure for a broken random number generator. >The proper cure is fixing the generator. If I understand the matter correctly, looking at and sorting out a given set of outputs is bad. Looking at a sample (that is _not_ used) and using it to decide how much putting-together (XORing) of the rest to do is OK. They appear to be doing the former. -Allen

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Re: Edupage, 20 Feb 1996
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"frissell(a)panix.com" "Duncan Frissell" 22-FEB-1996 12:01:13.17 >Why, Oh why is there so so much talk about the V Chip. This stupid device >only covers over-the-air broadcast TV a dying part of the spectrum. It does >not cover cable-only programs (HBO, etc) and it does not cover net-based >audio and (soon) video programming. It is meaningless. If I recall correctly, Europe still has a lot of over-the-air broadcast TV. Moreover, if the device works from signals cosent with the TV broadcast, it could perfectly well work with cable. Indeed, I had thought it did - the companies that mainly produce stuff for cable seemed to be protesting it just as much as the broadcast networks. -Allen

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Here I come.
by Pat Buchanan 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dear boys. Enjoy this list while you can. Signed Pat

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Let the Snake Oil Flow
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There have been several purveyors of (potential) snake oil here. Predictably, critics have been drawn into "trying to break" these allegedly strong systems. Some of the purveyors are even saying things like [paraphrased, but with charming misspellings emulated]: "See, even the smarty-pants Cyphurpunks are unabble to brake ouir system! Our virtuel one-time pad, which converts 10 randumly picked bits into 1000 or 10,000 or even a bazillion!, by our patented processo of "entropy enhancemate," has defeated even immacarthy and metzger. Our system rulez!" And so it goes.... Predictably, others are asking/expecting "the Cypherpunks" to break their systems. Just as predictably, many of us are patiently (and impatiently) explaining that breakages cost money and resources. And so the "developers" gleefully respond that this proves the "Cyperpunks" [sic] are helpless before their software. Well, it seems to me that letting some real snake oil out there could be a Good Thing. Being the Neo-Calvinist Darwinist that I am, I set that anyone who puts valuable information into "PowerPads" and "Stream-of-Consciousness Ciphers" pretty much deserves what he or she gets. I am not losing any sleep that Snake Oil Enterprises is hyping a conceptually flawed system. A few highly publicized failures could be educational, and ultimately help to strengthen the Net. You don't get better bridges without some highly-visible bridge collapses. Raises consumer awareness of what good design really is. Personally, I'm much more worried about the behind-the-scenes goings on with key escrow, the pressures being applied to Netscape, Lotus, Microsoft, TIS, etc., than I am in Yet Another Clueless Crypto Product (tm). --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Schneier Attacks
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Responding to msg by tighe(a)spectrum.titan.com (Mike Tighe) on Wed, 21 Feb 4:17 PM >You could also count the number of electrons, as well >as their direction across the chips. True, Bruce eggs-on the credulous SciAm reporter: "Is the timing attack a real threat to security? 'Oh, God, yes!' exclaims Bruce Schneier. 'You can't belittle the realness of it. It's not only a theoretical attack -- you can do this!' " And a current IBM ad exclaims! that one of its scientists can dematerialize objects for transmission over the Internet with rematerialization at the other end! And that this technology will transform the world of information! Here comes IPO Photon-optical!!!

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No Subject
by mixmaster＠obscura.obscura.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

IPG Sales <ipgsales(a)cyberstation.net> wrote: > >We fess up - we are pig farmers from TexasL, we never have been to >these high fluting things you call schools, so we do not even >know what you are talking about, much less anything about Cryptography. This explains your spelling skills, which a number of people have already pointed out. TexasL, whatever it is, might offer something called a highschool "GED." You should look into it. >On Wed, 21 Feb 1996, Arley Carter wrote: > >> On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, IPG Sales wrote: >> >> Fess up guys. You are either: >> >> 1. A team of undergrads or graduate students conducting an "exploit". My money's on this one, I hear that Ann Landers gets these all the time. >> 2. A Detweiller tentacle. Dr. FC ? "Vlad" does seem a bit low on his medication, lately. Dr. Fred has been pretty quiet as well. You don't suppose the two of them got together... >> 3. The return of Alice D'nonymous ? Gawd! Please, don't give him any ideas!! >> 4. The reason the coderpunks lists was started. Possibly, but did you notice how quickly "IPG Sales" found this list? >> >> > <huge blank space elided>

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San Diego CPunks Symposium
by Adam philipp 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

San Diego Area CPUNKS symposium Thursday, February 29 (we're lucky this was a leap year...) 1996 Invitation to all Cypherpunks to join the San Diego crowd at "The Mission Cafe & Coffee Shop" were we will get updates on Lance's new ISP, perhaps the new Win32 mixmaster client, and other new goodies. As a special *BONUS* we can also exchange keys, and discuss other topical subjects. Don't forget to bring your public key fingerprint (and two forms of ID). If you can figure out how to get a PGP fingerprint on the back of a business card, that would be cool. Place: The Mission Cafe & Coffee Shop 3795 Mission Blvd. in Mission Beach. 488-9060 Time:1800 Their Directions: 8 west to Mission Beach Ingram Exit Take west mission bay drive Go right on Mission Blvd. On the corner of San Jose and mission blvd. It is located between roller coaster and Garnet. It's kind of 40s looking building... funky looking (their description, not mine) They serve stuff to eat, coffee stuff, and beer. See you there! New people, don't forget your fingerprint. Drop me a note if you plan to attend. Adam, Esq. --=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\ | My PGP key is available on my |Unauthorized interception violates | | home page: http://www.rosa.com |federal law (18 USC Section 2700 et| |-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|seq.). In any case, PGP encrypted | |SUB ROSA... |communications are preferred for | | (see home page for definition) |sensitive materials. | \-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-/

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