December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: "Gentlemen do not read each other's mail"
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[This discussion was originally about the "right" of governments to read people mail. As is natural and appropriate, it immediately became necessary to discuss the general question of rights.] >On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote: >> I am a funny sort of person. I don't believe that governments should >> be able to do anything that individuals cannot. At 07:00 PM 1/25/96 -0500, Alan Horowitz wrote: > So violent criminals should never be jailed? Probably he believes they should be shot instead. The principle that governments have no special moral rights beyond those of normal men leads logically to the conclusion that men have a natural right to engage in just retribution, provided of course that such retribution can be seen to be just. John Locke has written at some length, attempting to justify limited government on this principle. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Re: Cypherpunk Enquirer
by Ted Garrett 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Man, I wish I knew who was writing this! No matter what mood I start out in, once I've waded through the noise and get to the Enquirer, I always feel better.

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Re: "This post is G-Rated"
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:24 1/26/96, Johnathan Corgan wrote: >On Fri, 26 Jan 1996, Duncan Frissell wrote: > >> One wonders why people spend so much time arguing about the V-chip, telecoms >> dereg, sex on the net, Trade Policy, or Immigration when it's intuitively >> obvious that these things are (or soon will be) no longer subject to central >> control of any kind. > >It is absolutely fascinating to observe the widely differing views held >by you and Lucky Green on the same subjects. > >The two of you seem to represent opposite ends of the spectrum of >cypherpunks thought, to the extent that there is such a thing. Its been like that for a long time :-) Just for the record, I hope that Duncan's view will prove to be correct. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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OFFSHORE RESOURCES
by Sandy Sandfort 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C'punks, There has been sporadic interest on this list with regard to offshore incorporation, banking, etc. While ads for offshore services are common in the international press, until now, none of these companies has an Internet presence. THE ECONOMIST has an ad for OCRA, a group that specializes in offshore company services. What's new is that they have a Web page. It includes a good primer on the benifits from going offshore and on selected offshore jurisdictions. I've never done business with these folks, but they have good info. S a n d y ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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DUH
by Sandy Sandfort 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C'punks, In my OFFSHORE RESOURCES post I left out the URL, which is: http://www.ocra.com/ S a n d y ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Nym use in the real world
by Eric Murray 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

With the coming Internet restrictions and growing use of the net by LEAs, it's become obvious to me that I shouldn't post messages with my real name. But I have some problems/questions about using a nym: 1. reputation. My nym will need to build it's own reputation, I know. But I currently get offers of work based on my reputation and posts. I would like this to continue. When it comes time to do the work and collect the pay, I need to tie my nym to me. Reasons: only the most adventurous firms would hire someone to do work without knowing their real name. I also need to have the proper forms (1099 etc) filed. I know that a lot of people on the list would say that I shouldn't file taxes, but I am (currently) willing to pay the price to stay out of jail. The other problem (tying the nym to RealName) for employers is more severe. A nym is only good when no one can tie it to your real name. If I have to tell everyone I do work for what my real name and nym is, soon enough people will be able to tie the two that the nym becomes nearly useless. 2. does it (a nym) really help? Police and governments are used to dealing with people who change their names, use fake names, etc. I get the impression that having multiple/fake names is considered by police to be evidence or at least indication of guilt. "If you're not guilty why're you hiding?". Using a nym would at least help with the problem of police or other parties searching through Dejanews/Altavista for my posts for incriminating evidence. But if my nym is investigated for some future crime (fuck Exon) and my nym isn't secure enough to protect my RealName, it will be a liability. Thoughts?

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Doctor Denning
by mpd＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I just read the new and improved Dorothy Denning essay at http://www.cosc.georgetown.edu/crypto/Future.html and I must say that I am impressed to see that our august little group has managed to define most of the issues Dr. Denning addresses. She even uses the Gospel According to Tim as her first bibliography entry. One should realize, of course, that whether Crypto Anarchy prevails depends not upon the varied philosophical leanings of citizen-units May and Denning, but rather upon whether our mathematics is more powerful than their jackbooted thugs. Success also depends upon the implementation of widely distributed comunications systems which are not vulnerable to attacks launched against any particular set of nodes, and which obfuscate which processing elements are responsible for providing any specified instance of a service. Crypto Anarchy running on the World Wide Crypto-Mesh. Your guarantee of a government-free future, Denning and friends notwithstanding. -- Mike Duvos $ PGP 2.6 Public Key available $ mpd(a)netcom.com $ via Finger. $

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Re: OFFSHORE RESOURCES
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 5:46 PM 1/26/96, Sandy Sandfort wrote: >There has been sporadic interest on this list with regard to >offshore incorporation, banking, etc. While ads for offshore >services are common in the international press, until now, none >of these companies has an Internet presence. ??? I've been tracking offshore banks with Internet presences for more than a year...I figure only those with Net savvy are worth looking at. An Alta Vista query of "offshore AND banking" just revealed 2000 hits, suggesting a lot of activity. Some of these hits are for banks, some for services catering to offshore bankers, some are reviews of what's out there, and some are of course just plain accidental hits. But you get the point. --Tim Boycott espionage-enabled software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: "Concryption" Prior Art
by Robert A. Rosenberg 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 19:04 1/26/96, pgut001(a)cs.auckland.ac.nz wrote: >However the Con-cryption patent covers first compressing, then >encrypting. Isn't that how PGP does its thing (first compress the data and then feed it into the Encryption Stage)? PGP is prior art in-and-of-itself.

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Re: Microsoft's CryptoAPI - thoughts?
by Lou Zirko 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:24 PM 1/26/96 GMT, John Lull wrote: >On Fri, 26 Jan 1996 03:02:56 -0500 (EST), Futplex wrote: > >> Has someone here managed to extract PostScript hardcopy of the CAPI from this >> Web page? I tried earlier this evening and wound up with a miniature >> ecological disaster on my hands. The page says: > >No problem on a LaserJet 4M. > > > >> "For ease of online reading and printing, we've provided copies of this >> lengthy document in Microsoft Word and Postscript formats." > >I tried printing the Word version from WordView, also, and ran into >major problems. It absolutely insisted on setting the printer to >manual feed, and when I tried to print the odd-numbered pages, >WordView crashed complletely. > >> Worse still, it appears that the >> capiapp.ps file is actually a catenation of many PostScript files (one per >> chapter?), each beginning with a version of this ensnarling line. > >Maybe that's why I couldn't extract odd & even-numbered pages. > > > The odd command line in the postscript file is specific to HP laserjet's. It is a command that tells the printer to switch to postscript mode. The Microsoft print drivers are bad about this. One option is to strip all occurances of this line from the file or load and print the file from GhostScript, a postscript processor. Hope this helps. Lou Z. Lou Zirko (615)851-1057 Zystems lzirko(a)isdn.net "We're all bozos on this bus" - Nick Danger, Third Eye -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzBLJocAAAEEAMlDzYJPYq0pvfMuSiKU0Y65L2nJql+qEJHYGjO5Pys4prDw YW1ooPWaqrPQAy/eyqrM7I9KNFDCtmaPxtgcPw2oEDfc/w6cPkrVzvovKLfHQvtg V/hHUekptSf6j525omrVAoM9MxVL3sEGCjn9VrTeC3h9upkfntHOJeL88i2NAAUR tB5Mb3UgWmlya28gPHppcmtvbEBkYXRhdGVrLmNvbT4= =Qlxm -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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