December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by Flame Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>> > Could someone tell me how to quit this list, I just dont > >> have the time to read anything that is being sent to it. >> >> Yes. You can turn your modem off :) >> > Hey Boffo, Don't be an idiot!! It is hard to turn off your > modem when you are on a university network. Don't be so > quick to be a smart ass. If you don't have anything > productive to say then shut the fuck up!! Wow.. Looks like someone didn't get their nap. Maybe someday he'll figure out about anonymous remailers too and quite trying to argue with Mr. Boffo. :)

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Re: cypherpunks-d V2 #480
by gibo＠ripco.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From: Cecelia A Clancy <cacst9+(a)pitt.edu> >Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 18:06:32 -0500 (EST) >Subject: Re: THE JEWS (ALL of them!) Try to kick Ernst Zundel off Usenet!! > >On Sat, 3 Feb 1996 ErnstZundl(a)aol.com wrote: > >Ernst Zu"ndel's e-mail address is ezundel(a)cts.com. He is on on >AOL to me knowledge. [snip] >The above text does not feel like Zu"ndel to me. I think >that this ErnstZundel(a)aol.com might very well be an imposter. >The above is not the real Zu"ndel's speaking or writing >style. Zu"ndel does not want books burned and people persecuted >nor does he want certain races and ethnic groups declared >inferior. <amazement gaze="slackjawed"> My God, you're kidding! The Zundel post might have been a JOKE?! But I believed every word of it! </amazement> =========================================>>>http://pages.ripco.com/~gibo "Tree-borne kettle-girl...I love you." -- from Ranma 1/2

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Encryption and Backups
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Something that I have not seen addressed is the need for strong encryption in backup software. Most backup software has an "encryption" option, but I have seen few that have anything resembling strong encryption. Furthermore, I have seen no real push for strong encryption for backups at all. I see this as a product that corporations should be demanding. It is difficult to walk off with a computer, but a dat tape can be slipped in a pocket with little notice. If it happens to be of a server or important system, valuable information would be in the hands of whoever could decrypt it. (And off site alot of resources could be thrown at decrypting the data.) Weak or no encryption of backups could be a potential problem with the security of a business. (Of course, if you leave tapes lying around, you are asking for trouble anyways...) Might be an idea for a product there... (And you can bet law enforcement would throw a hissy fit about its existence.) Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ Is the operating system half NT or half full?

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Concerning Jim Bell
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- It has been brought to my attention that I did not make this as clear as it should be. I consider Mr. Bell to be a crank and a loon. He has no interest in any sort of honest discussion. He wishes to draw in others in the hope of "punishing me". - From now on, I am ignoring all of his posts and "killfiling" him. You may now go back to your scheduled and unscheduled lives. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMRUhaeQCP3v30CeZAQGCpAf9FvV2sIHX9q5qajkgXWJsG7EG1JgMOvdH XeRhc0qCrFJPcYfDBFvP6+Ck1dnsYNVzY+wDhMRDpHqky0KegRNENOFiU6NBhy+U mbSCxlFU4FTa+xwRAm7BF8a0G1HGXkFzUOP6O7zf/WONE3+3EZr+aPlr0cm5maja Xz5bRzi1SKlDQsxNK/msvYKXYyU5CLX2lVCGf7/qro2QezLNMz5skf9GJ9Tq7S5P 1gOiVjzNzYnmJj+76Uz+72zlvOHjIYrxf5FxsDsqqda2dBRyX9vmPmpWUMLBcoPi kgZ4GtHryVgjKy5dkxk3U24hJIRYZiLwWl8gDiFuJDnC0PZwR3w7aQ== =Lfox -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ Is the operating system half NT or half full?

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Protecting the innocent on the nets
by A. Padgett Peterson, P.E. Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

About a year ago I came up with a mechanism to allow subscription or controlled circulation magazines to be distributed on the net. Not saying is new, just was new to me. Seems like it would be a mechanism for anyone to communicate/access Web pages without crypto, yet allowing protection of such things from those requiring such protection. Concept works like this: LZ (or most other) compressed files have two elements - a data dictionary and ordered pointers to that dictionary. Now say you took a large number of text files/.Gifs/.Jpegs/whatever and created a universal (well nearly) data dictionary that would fit on a CD-Rom. Using large patterns and good ordering techniques could achieve good throughput. Now to a group of subscribers/friends/whatever, the disk is distributed in a controlled manner. Once distribution is made, then what is sent on the net/put on the Web page are just the pointers to the data dictionary plus any patterns not in the dictionary (low enough not to create anything intelligable). What you have is a gigantic book code with a copyrightable book for which you can control the circulation. Those under age need not apply. If they obtain one, then it was illegally and you have made a "good faith attempt" IMNSLO to protect the innocent. Can even change the CD-Rom dictionary *order* yearly/montly/whatever if you want. Comment ? Warmly, Padgett ps if you reply to the list, *please* do not copy me, my volume is silly enough without getting duplicates as it is.

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Re: Alien factoring breakthroughs
by Andrew.Spring＠ping.be 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>The Grays have renegged on their abduction quota agreement, and are >abducting many more people than before. Most of these are returned, after >being implanted with a device which allows the grays to have total control >over their thoughts and actions. Approximately 40% of Americans now carry >one of these devices, which are impossible to remove without killing the >host. > The mark of a good conspiracy theory is its untestability. Your theory fails here, because you could perform autopsies on those hosts who have died of natural causes to recover the mind control devices. Suggest you amend the last sentence to read "...one of these devices, which dissolve immediately upon death, and which are impossible to remove..." etc, etc.

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Re: FV's blatant double standards
by simsong＠vineyard.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 8:18 AM 1/31/96, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote: >FV demonstrated, through it's "card sharp" or whatever, that >real-time transactions are vulnerable to sniffers on the recipient's >own machine. Of course. We all knew that. But the mistake is to >assume that FV isn't _equally_ vulnerable to that threat. If you >can write a trojan that will somehow get privileged access to my >machine, trap my keystrokes, and identify my credit card number, >you can certainly write one that will, sitting on my machine: > "intercept the user's electronic mail, read the confirmation > message from First Virtual's computers, and send out a fraudulent > reply" >(to quote from Simson's article). Simson further quotes FV's Lee >Stein: "A single user can be targeted, Stein said, but ''it is very >difficult. . . . There are too many packets moving . . . to too many >different machines.''" - which is of course equally true for real-time >Netscape transactions. Oh, I think that such a program can be written. However, it would be much harder to get right, considering all of the different ways that people read e-mail. ============= Simson's Schedule: Feb 2 - Feb 5 - Cambridge: Conference on Freely Redistributable Software Feb 7 - Feb 13 - Baltimore: American Association for the Advancement of Science. Feb. 28 - March 1 - Seybold, Boston. March 23 - NYC. MacFair. March 27 - March 30: Cambridge. Computers, Freedom and Privacy.

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[NOISE] Sound bites re the Zundel German censorship thing (fwd)
by Rich Graves 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[Bcc'd to the webcom.com guys FYI] Sorry if you get duplicate copies, but I agree with Tim that mailing list cross-pollution is bad. *Not* for broader redistribution, because they deserve privacy, but illustrative for, say, certain knee-jerk anti-PC forces here, is the fact that the two people who run webcom.com (Bcc'd) have been reported to be: 1. Grandson of a Holocaust victim 2. Activist with PEN and Amnesty International I think we're all on the right side here, and for all the right reasons. -rich ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 17:56:19 -0800 From: Rich Graves <llurch(a)Networking.Stanford.EDU> To: fight-censorship+(a)andrew.cmu.edu Newgroups: alt.censorship, comp.org.eff.talk, alt.internet.media-coverage Subject: Maudlin sound bites re the Zundel German censorship thing I put this together for the few journalists who actually bothered to ask for quotes, rather than taking or manufacturing them without asking. Sent to CMU fight-censorship and relevant newsgroups (not counting alt.revisionism, where this is not really relevant); will also send separately to cypherpunks. I'm not on any other lists, but feel free to pass it along, with PGP signature intact. -rich ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Subject: Re: Quote for Guardian newspaper -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Please cite me as rich(a)c2.org without Stanford affiliation. Yes, I can handle any amount of mail, and I'd much rather have to answer questions than be misinterpreted. Pick and choose and edit at will. The email address rich(a)beep.stanford.edu goes to an alphanumeric pager (cellular beeper, whatever you call it on your side of the pond) that takes 60 characters from the Subject: line; please use it to confirm quotes at deadline. Some material, from least to most maudlin: I am not a free speech activist. As Rosa Parks explains her refusing to move to the back of a racially segregated bus, "I was tired." The Internet belongs to all of us, and if parts of it are cordoned off for even the most noble political reasons, then we are all diminished, and totalitarian regimes like China's are given another excuse. This was an important point to underscore, but it should be noted that all I did was send a half dozen electronic mail messages and copy a few files, which took less than an hour of my time. No less important than the fight against censorship itself, for me, is that hateful demagogues like Ernst Zundel be denied their spurious appeals to "anti-censorship." Mr. Zundel is no more of a free speech activist than are the leaders of the IRA. Repression only breeds criminality. As Tolkien or any good German fairy tale will tell you, the evil troll, when exposed to the light of day, will turn to stone. Evil trolls like Mr. Zundel might still frighten children, but as statues in the Wiesenthal Center's Museum of Tolerance they can no longer harm us; and ultimately, these statues will attract pigeons, weather with time, and crumble to dust. Now that the power of the Net has been demonstrated, we have taken down our mirror sites. Now the onus is on Mr. Zundel, in the spotlight of world attention, to reveal his true friends by calling on them to come to his aid. Now we know that Mr. Zundel's friends include Joe Bunkley, a notorious racist at Georgia State University. Joe Bunkley's mirror site, and those of other friendly mirror sites, cannot all be censored; in fact, to my knowledge, no action has been taken against any mirror site. Indeed, the DFN/WiN network that serves most German universities restored access to Mr. Zundel's original site some days ago. Let Mr. Zundel's conspiracy theories about Jews and UFO bases in Antarctica into the public domain, and let us see who will believe them, and who will laugh. I am a great fan of Milan Kundera, who teaches us that the only responses to a totalitarian buffoon are laughter and memory. Nizkor: we will remember. (No, I'm not Jewish) Zundel's hate should never be ignored, but it can be publicly refuted and ridiculed, which has far greater moral and practical effect than censorship. "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty" can be interpreted many ways. Let freedom ring. - -rich On Sun, 4 Feb 1996, Azeem Azhar wrote: > Hi, > > I'm a journalist on the UK Guardian newspaper > I'm doing a background piece the Zundel bnusiness. > Could you give me a short quotable quote about why you're doing it: > Extreme non-tech if you could. > ASAP? > Cool > > Azeem > > Azeem Azhar vx: 0171-713 4193 > The Guardian fx: 0171-713 4154 > 119 Farringdon Road azeem(a)dial.pipex.com > London EC1R 3ER aa(a)guardian.co.uk (alt) > All opinions are my own unless otherwise stated. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMRU8nY3DXUbM57SdAQHz7gP/VHY9mkoZ4NdJ3bklnH+cKjCXxcT8uxTb bSm/+f/iYe06C2XN3g5O5VVDQiPn0jA4aWJCwP1ntkkZmEsYyIBjRCQgMTBvNqt2 7blwHlLsEelJU2AaqMwK6z+4jiOdgp2InXYOjGsFZZaNwn0gCvbhaUbl5uYy4BV5 9tXMt9ZG95k= =GzMs -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Our "New Order"
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:26 PM 2/4/96 GMT, Mutatis Mutantdis wrote: >On Sat, 3 Feb 1996 11:30:48 -0700, David M. Rose wrote: > >>In view of the fact that our government seems bent on abrogating its >>citizens' rights to free speech, has anyone done a survey indicating which >>foreign countries have the best Net connections to the U.S. (excepting, of >>course, Germany and possibly France)? > >>It may be expedient for Planned Parenthood and others whose points of view >>differ somewhat from those approved under our "New Order"* to explore >>alternatives in order to reach their constituencies. > >The law makes anyone accessing material lable... even if you connect >to a foreign site where it's legal there, if it's banned in the US, >you can still get screwed (in theory). > >Methinks the time is right for a "PGPScape" web browser. > >Rob. Let me see if I understand this concept correctly. The remote site would pre-encrypt the transmitted data, so that when received it could be decrypted by the requestor according to his (or a temporarily chosen, to avoid disclosing the actual recipient.) public key, so as to disguise both the material and perhaps also the actual requestor? Excellent idea!

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Arthur C. Clarke Supports Strong Crypto
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

(Pardon me for mentioning crypto...) Arthur C. Clarke, known to most of you (author of many SF works, coiner of the phrase: "all sufficiently advanced technlogies are indistinguishable from magic," mention by Alan Olsen yesterday), has a role in a "Discovery Channel" program called "Mysterious Universe." The episode tonight dealt with famous ciphers, including the Beale Cipher (buried gold), the Voynich Manuscript (who knows what it is), and the Vinland Map (my ancestors beat the Italians to the New World). Clarke concluded by opining that strong ciphers that can only be read by the intended recipient are now more important than ever. --Tim May Boycott espionage-enabled software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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