December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Cypherpunks Press release
by goedel＠tezcat.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- We've seen the word "hacker" kicked around rather arbitrarily in the press. Are we to conclude that the cypherpunks are a bunch of hackers? I think its time for some cypherpunks spin. How about a logo *and* a press release? The press release would give contacts (email, phone, etc.) so that someone on this list would be contacted by journalists when a crypto story breaks. If we get enough volunteers, we can fax blanket every newspaper, station, and network in the world. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBgAwUBMGBA2XIf3YegbdiBAQG0RQJXdWG0beFoFEk6BfEkhIDYxB6NsbSSIGWe Nzob7W7Gd/YyRqsVhU5T8jQEpD6sNLwTP+4SypSC9Mk8EauKAvklHkkfGr53scQh 5Tzp =Fxdn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Dietrich Kappe | Red Planet http://www.redweb.com Red Planet, LLC| "Chess Space" | "MS Access Products" | PGP Public Key 1-800-RED 0 WEB| /chess | /cobre | /goedel/key.txt Web Publishing | Key fingerprint: 8C2983E66AB723F9 A014A0417D268B84

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Democracy is the true enemy, and anarchists fight the true enemy
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:42 AM -0700 9/6/97, jf_avon(a)citenet.net wrote: >On 5 Sep 97 at 19:07, Cdn-Firearms Digest wrote: >------ Forwarded message --------- >Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 19:07:19 -0600 >From: Karl Schrader <schraderkg(a)intranet.ca> >Subject: Bill C-95 > >Re.: recent amendment to Criminal Code, Bill C-95 >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Did any legal expert analyse the recent amendment to the >Criminal Code regarding the mere membership in an organization >consisting of more than 5 people which imposes a penalty in prison >from 5 to 14 years if any mischief is even mentioned? > >This amendment is aimed at the biker gangs, however, the way it >is worded, it can be applied to any group, be they environmenta- >lists, unionists, recreational firearms owners, birdwatchers or even >stampcollectors where the mere mentioning of mischief is ground >enough to face 5-14 years in jail. The United States does not yet have anything quite this repugnant, though I'm sure Janet Reno, Louis Freeh, and William Clinton are working on a draft of a bill to do something similar. The Anti-Terrorism Act of 1995, though apparently not being used in any significant way (yet), would have done some of the same sorts of things. If an organization was declared to be a terrorist-supporting organization, various sanctions would have applied to those who contributed money or certain other types of aid to such organizations. As others have noted, the Bureau of Thought Crimes has not yet issued a list of which organizations are considered terrorist. (One of my fondest hopes is that the Cypherpunks group makes this list. I'm hoping that enough support of various types provided to freedom fighters in the ZOG sections of Palestine will get us on this list. I'm itching for a confrontation with the jack-booted thugs, as you may know.) >FOCUS: If 97% of Canadians are being pushed around by 3%, > there is something seriously wrong !! Be very, very, very careful of this sort of "democracy" emphasis, as it is quite likely that the "majority of the sheeple" support the disarming of Canadian citizens and the crackdown on "gangs and other scum organizations" by the Mounties. Never place any faith in democracy. The sheeple will eventually vote to have their liberties taken away for their own good. Espeically the liberties of others. Democracy is the true enemy. Anarchists fight the true enemy. --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Democracy is the true enemy, and anarchists fight the true enemy (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 10:53:57 -0700 > From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > Subject: Democracy is the true enemy, and anarchists fight the true enemy > Democracy is the true enemy. Anarchists fight the true enemy. Oh pooh. Spare us the spin doctor diatribe... Anarchist are interested in protecting only their own person and possessions over and above all other factors. Furthermore, it in no way protects from oppression at the individual or social level. The only thing it does is guarantee that I will have to spend a great deal of my income on protection, most folks have something better to do with their time than participate in a system that believes the height of personal achievment is to sit around and stroke your gun looking for trespassers on their property. Try explaining how an anarchy is going to better protect my right to free speech or the economic and social stability required to carry on a business? Democracy <> Mob Rule Something you just don't seem to get. A good measure of the oppressive level in a given government is to examine who owns property versus who manages it. Type: Owner: Manager: Communism Govt. Govt. Fascist Indiv. Govt. Democracy Indiv. <> Shared Indiv. <> Shared Anarchy N/A N/A Changes in this relationship seem to be a good measure. For example consider the level of change in ownership rights before and after the changes in the confiscation laws. If one thinks of speech as a commodity this also holds. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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New Contact Info... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From ravage(a)ssz.com Sat Sep 6 13:51:44 1997 From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> Message-Id: <199709061851.NAA23913(a)einstein.ssz.com> Subject: New Contact Info... To: users(a)ssz.com (SSZ User Mail List) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 13:51:37 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2924 "Reality is observer dependant" \ \ \\///// | | (.) (.) ===========================oOO==(_)==OOo========================== James Choate Tivoli Systems, Inc. The Armadillo Group Senior Support Engineer SOHO - Internet - Technology 9442 Capitol of Texas Highway North 608 E. 48th. Suite 500 Austin, TX 78751 Austin, TX 78759 Email: jchoate(a)tivoli.com Email: ravage(a)ssz.com Phone: 512-436-8893 Phone: 512-451-7087 Fax: 512-345-2784 Fax: n/a WWW: www.tivoli.com WWW: www.ssz.com Modem: n/a Modem: 512-451-7009 Pager: 888-902-7999 Pager: n/a Cellular: n/a Cellular: n/a =================================================================== Political ideal: The Constitution says "Congress shall make no law..." & What happened to the 9th & 10th Amendments? Philosophy: Pantheism - the belief that everything is divine, that God is not seperate but totaly identified with the cosmos, and that God does not possess personality or transcendence. Favorite Cartoon - Danger Mouse & Mighty Mouse (the original) =================================================================== The end of our exploring will be to arrive at where we started, and to know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot =================================================================== Adopt, adapt, improvise! Anonymous =================================================================== For a succesful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled. Richard Feynman =================================================================== Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others? Or have we found angels in the forms of kings to govern him? Let history answer this question. Thomas Jefferson, 1st Inaugural Addr

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MD5 in Eudora
by Andrew.Spring＠ping.be 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I was just poking around in Eudora for the Mac with ResEdit, and I found a CODE resource labelled MD5. Any idea why Eudora is using MD5 hashes?

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Re: Linking = Showing = Transferring?
by Rich Salz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Another even more subtle problem is inline images, can you say that a >page with an inline image sourced from a foreign site must obey the >foreign jurisdiction. I would assert this is so, because the web >surfer's *browser* imports the relevant parts of the page from >whatever locations (and jurisdictions) they are in, and displays them >as one page. Inline images are not references -- they are part of the page being retrieved. > <img src="http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/obscura/rsa.gif"> >So that the image is *imported* by the *viewer*, and not supplied by >www.obscura. Inlined images are just a convenient way of chunking. The image is imported by the viewer because the server, as part of the base document, told it to do so. You might be able to fool an ignorant court, but it still doesn't change the fact that Lance has a document that in the natural course of operation of the Web, exports crypto. I would advise him to edit the page so it reads Click <A HREF="http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/obscura/rsa.gif">here to see a picture of the shirt. Heck, the very word, "inline" gives it away. /r$

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Munitions shirt (again)
by Ian Goldberg 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

So, Dave and I got free munitions shirts (they're different, though; the font is smaller and they have a bunch of X'd out Constitutional Amendments on the back; I think they ere designed by Joel Furr) for our bug find. So I'm wearing it today. The thing is, I live in International House, a residence that has 50% non-Americans. So, any consensus as to whether it's actually illegal to do so? I remember some disagreement a few weeks ago that AFAIK wasn't resolved. As far as I can tell, it's _technically_ illegal, but any LEO would be out of his mind to try to enforce it (it would have to be a Fed, too, wouldn't it? Or can regular city cops get you for violating export restrictions?). - Ian

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Re: Big Brother is watching you watch Farenheit 451
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:56 PM 9/5/97 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: > ... >BTW, the last copy of F451 I saw really irked me - the cover had >explanatory notes like "Fahrenheit 451, the temperature that books burn!" >and stuff about firemen whose job is setting fires. >Are today's kids dumbing down, or less literate, or is it just enough >longer since the book was written that publishers need to try harder to >get people to read it? A varient on the third and the first. The people now see this and say "so what?, the school boards decision to get rid of Mark Twain is over a year old." They see the simple title and don't see the same high octane comments that they see on movie posters. "burn, and fire" probably selling at least 5% more books. That and even though they realize that a lot of it is old news to them. It happened within thier lifetime without thier realizing it. Everyone, please send a recomendation to your senators and representatives to please at least watch the movie variations of Farenheit 451 and 1984. The fact that so much of what was depicted in these books was once fiction should be noted and expressed. If teenagers were informed that there was full-frontal-nudity in the 1984 movie, they might even be convinced to watch it. I didn't see the Farenheit 451 movie, I read the book, I saw part of the opening, saw one inconsistancy, (teacher where the neighbor was a student), turned the PBS station off and went to bed. So, I really don't know if there is any good stuff there. (Does the owner of the bible burn on screen? Does the stand in for Guy Montag get killed on camera by the electric hound? Does Guy Montag roast the fire chief alive, and do we get to see the flames? Etc.)

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cypherpunks press releases/contact list: YES!! DO IT!!
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm going to argue against TCM and others who are opposed to a "cypherpunk press release" because this is not an "organized group". a press release mechanism is one way by which the organization of this group can be increased. and I'm going to say something heretical in cypherpunk circles, but imho, ORGANIZATION == POWER. this is a basic rule of life that all the rabid libertarians and cryptoanarchist loners here hate to admit, but it's really true and inescapable. anyone who wants to issue press releases for the "cypherpunks", I say, GO FOR IT. don't let someone discourage this because this is an "anarchy". that's actually an excellent reason for you to JUST DO IT!! some will be willing to have their names on the list, and they will email you. others will flame you and not want their name included. simply ignore the later category!! the cypherpunk logo is not copyrighted. no one has any say on who or what a "cypherpunk" is. so, let someone pick a reality and let it prosper or wilt by assent and "voting with the feet". just be careful not to misrepresent anyone. start a list, just like anyone can start a FAQ. a list of names to contact and their specialties would be *excellent* for this purpose. occasional press reports on what is happening on list traffic would be very useful, too. look, there are some very tangible and definite ways to advance the cypherpunk agenda. there are many here who like to play in the dark and shadows and not make any noise. that's fine!! but don't expect everyone to share your disinterest in publicity or organization. if this is in fact an anarchy, why are you discouraging anyone from pursing that which interests them?? IMHO playing in the dark, not trying to appeal to the widespread masses through the media and everything else at hand, is just the NSA's way of trying to manupulate reality through "back door" approaches. I again suggest that a simple list of poeople here who are willing to talk to the press, organized under their expertise/speciality, is an *excellent* idea that is an idea whose time has come. this is such a great idea that *I* may do it if nobody does it after a week or two. --Vlad Nuri

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Re: Netscape sub rosa?
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:30 AM 9/20/95 -0700, you wrote: > >Gee, where's that "Cypherpunks logo" when you really need it? > >A rose covering the Netscape "N" logo? A crypto eagle swooping down and >pecking at weak keys? > >Netscape sub rosa? Or a big burning Netscape logo? Or an NSA agent licking the hot end of an electrical power cord for a Cray? Or a picture of a lock with a big bullet hole through it? Oh no! Not the "Logo Wars(tm)" again! | Visualize whirled keys | alano(a)teleport.com | |"It's only half a keyserver. I had to split the | Disclaimer: | |other half with the government man." - Black Art | Ignore the man | | -- PGP 2.6.2 key available on request -- | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.teleport.com/~alano | <fnord> |

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