December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Anon Mail Sources of Remailers Keys
by nobody＠kaiwan.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Can someone post again the source for the various cypherpunks remailers public keys? I assume they are all in one file somewhere (likely on berkeley.edu) thats ftp'able.

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alt.cypherpunks
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi all, My vote is to let the folks on usenet sink in their own quagmire of ignorance about what we do. This list is no secret. If somebody wants to get into the 'game' let them bloody well subscribe. Ta ta. Jim Choate CyberTects ravage(a)einstein.ssz.com

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Re: (Noise) X-Files anarchist
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 3:56 PM 9/16/95, Dar Scott wrote: >I hardly watch TV ...blah, blah..., but I saw X-files last night. A very >minor character was a cryptohacker who--to his surprise--brute-forced a >military key for some files. He was described as an anarchist. > >To _my_ surprise, this anarchist was not associated with violence or >lunatic ravings. He was shown as reading a book entitled something like >Survey of Modern Conspiracy Theories. I see this as an improvement in the >stereotype of computer-associated anarchists. And this I see as a good >thing, since I think there is a lot that could be learned from anarchists. Vince Foster was technical advisor to "The X-Files." The NSA had him killed at Fort Darcy because he was getting too close to the Bilderbergers and their control of the secret UFO technology first given to the Nazis and then transferred to Winnemucca, Nevada as part of Operation Paperclip. The pilot who flew Bush in an SR-71 to negotiate with the Iranians to delay the release of the hostages and so defeat Carter in 1980 is also the author of "Nomenclature of a Conspiracy Cabal," one of the books shown in that episode. President Clinton, at the Underground White House near Edwards Air Force Base, OKed the hit on Foster, even though "The X-Files" was one of his favorite shows. The Greys must be appeased. --Klaus! von Future Prime, who actually has several dozen books on these and similar subjects

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Re: SPAM bait
by koontz＠MasPar.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Digital Fingerprinting
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 6:57 AM 9/16/95, Alan Olsen wrote: >I seem to remember a software piracy case from a number of years back. The >case was settled by Apple showing that their code had been copied by the >copyright "easteregg" hidden in the roms. Made for a quick and effective >demonstration in court. (The story may be apocryphal, but it makes for an >example as to how such things do have a (supposed) valid use in protecting >code from being snagged by other companies.) And someone just cited the same (or very similar) example, where the "quick and effective demonstration" nevertheless resulted (they said) in an acquittal. So, which way did it go? --Tim May ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: "alt.cypherpunks" Newsgroup vs. Mailing List?
by Rev. Mark Grant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 16 Sep 1995 hallam(a)w3.org wrote: > One thought to ponder on. There is no real difference in terms of resources > required between a mailing list and an archive of a mailing list at a Web > site. The latter does avoid a large number of unnecessary dispatches however. However: a) You can't read it through a remailer (yet). b) Anyone watching the site can tell which threads you're interested in, and thereby determine what your real interests in this group are. c) It cuts off anyone who doesn't have direct net access, or can't afford long telephone calls. It's a lot cheaper to download a day's mail in one go than to spend three hours browsing a WWW site. Mark

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Re: "alt.cypherpunks" Newsgroup vs. Mailing List?
by dmandl＠panix.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 1:33 PM 9/16/95, hallam(a)w3.org wrote: >>Should there be an "alt.cypherpunks" type of newsgroup instead of this >>mailing list? > >Bad idea, it would simply mean that every kook on USEnet would add >alt.cypherpunks onto the crossposting line. We would have black >helicopters, gun >loons, Waco Wako's, Loonytarians and turkish government propaganda spamming >forever. A lot of people on the list seem to see it as a corporation that has to show X% growth for its shareholders every year. The list is a healthy size, and there are a lot of very bright people on it with very good ideas (a lot of the best people and best ideas in the field, in fact). Traffic is pretty high, too. I don't see any reason to try to increase our market share just for the sake of it. Even worse, it seems to me that what some people are suggesting (and this comes up at least once a year) will lead to increased entropy, with us, the EFF, EPIC, etc., etc., blending into one amorphous lobbying blob. This is a unique list of people doing VERY IMPORTANT work that no one else is doing. To tell you the truth, I think that to date cypherpunks have left a much greater mark on the world than the EFF and all of the others. No question about it. Again (as others have said over and over), if people are concerned about better lobbying, this isn't the place for it--and the good news for you is that there are plenty of other groups with the resources, staff, and mission to do it. So what's the problem? If you're embarrassed mentioning our name to your straight friends, c'est la vie. I wish I could show my boss my brilliant article in the new issue of ANARCHY, but I can't. --Dave. -- Dave Mandl dmandl(a)panix.com http://wfmu.org/~davem

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Re: Linking = Showing = Transferring?
by dsc＠swcp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Suppose we interpret Linking = Showing as For all web pages x and y, Showing(x) and Linkto(x,y) --> Showing(y) Meaning: In all cases, if a page is being shown and it links to another page, then the other page is being shown. With this kind of transitivity I would not be surprised if a third of the web sites are showing pornography. For example (made up titles!), Transitors --> Electronics Distributers --> Ray's TV --> Springfield Businesses --> Bob's Photography --> Plenty Pictures --> Photography Resources --> Asian, Female --> World Nudity --> John's Porno Shop. The poor guy trying to be helpful to those learning electronics now has a pornopage. Perhaps some kind of fuzzy logic could apply. If one believes in such a thing. I wonder if I have a pornopage. Dar =========================================================== Dar Scott Home phone: +1 505 299 9497 Dar Scott Consulting Voice: +1 505 299 5790 8637 Horacio Place NE Email: darscott(a)aol.com Albuquerque, NM 87111 dsc(a)swcp.com Fax: +1 505 898 6525 http://www.swcp.com/~correspo/DSC/DarScott.html ===========================================================

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Re: The problem of playing politics with our constitutional rights
by phelix＠vallnet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 22 Sep 1997 02:32:12 -0500, Alan <alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com> wrote: >Mail is another hole. Eudora now distributes PGP 5.0 with the latest >version. (This version does not do RSA keys. You can get the plug in to do >those keys from PGP inc.) This is helpful, but there are many other >plug-ins that need to be written. Support for remailers is lacking. >Windows based code for Mixmaster is also a needed thing. A good interface >would help immensely. (Private Idaho was a big step in the right >direction. Integrated with a remailer people already use would be another >big step forward.) > Agreed. I think Remailer support could be a big opportunity. People may not understand/care-about encryption, digital signing, etc., but they definitely understand the need for anonymity. Question: If a free remailer plugin for eudora is released, can the remailers handle the increased load? Are there enough remailers? People will not tolerate more than a 24 hour delay for getting their messages delivers. What about spamming? Another Question: Since such a plugin uses (has the hooks for) encryption, would it be covered by ITAR? (i'm asking because I'm seriously considering making the eudora plugin) Anyway, the remailer 'network' needs to be strengthened. Right now, Raph's pinging service (or whatever private idaho uses) is the only way private idaho can tell which servers are up. Attack this point, and reliability when chaining remailers becomes uncertain. Imagine a TLA co-opting this service and altering the list to favor government friendly remailers. It also needs to be easier to set up a remailer. I'd like to see the software distributed in .deb and .rpm packages for Linux. Once set up, the remailer could automatically announce itself to the world (perhaps via a newsgroup post). The various listing services would pick up on this. The more automated it is, the better. >I am sure that people can think of all sorts of other ideas for needed >apps. But to make them usable for the "general public", the apps will be >needed to be written for Windows. (As much as I hate to think about it...) Private idaho needs to be rewritten (in Java possibly) to be simpler to operate. There should be one button to press to send a message without messing with what type and which remailers to use; the program could choose these things randomly (ok, it's not the best thing to do, but at least it's easy to use). It also should be updated to use pgp 5.0 (not exclusively, of course). If possible, also add support for the Eternity Service. Stenography Plugin for mail/news readers. It's our one (and possibly only) defense against GAK. You can't decrypt what you can't see. (watch for Stenography to be classified as encryption and be similarly restricted.) Is there any support for signed web pages? Is this covered by SSL?

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Jim Bell Letter
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We offer a recent letter from Jim Bell that describes prison and his prospects: http://jya.com/jimbell4.htm It is published against his wishes, maybe. Read the letter to see the fear (or caginess) loss of freedom teaches.

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