December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: GAK Ploy
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> "There is nothing about putting this enabling technology > into law that will inevitably lead to it being turned on," > said Robert Litt, a Deputy Assistant United States > Attorney. Is this list turning into some kind of comedy club. Litt (rhymes with ..) couldn't lie straight in bed. I spose implanting a nuclear devise up clit-ons ass doesn't necessarily mean that it will inevitably lead to it being turned on..just that most people would like to see that happen while he's in Washington DC.

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17 Dec '03

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InfoWar (The True Story of the InterNet / Part III)
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: BXA Testimony at SAFE Hearing
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 9/7/97 4:48 AM, Apache (apache(a)bear.apana.org.au) passed this wisdom: >> 3. Finds the SAFE bill unhelpful but likes its crypto-criminali- >> zation provision and favors McCain-Kerrey's Secure Public Network >> Act bill or other legislation that will: >... >> Offer, on a voluntary basis, firms that are in the business of >> providing public cryptography keys the opportunity to obtain >> government recognition, allowing them to market the >> trustworthiness implied by government approval. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >BWHAHAHA this is some kind of sick joke surely. >Get ur crypto here folks, it's approved by the gubermint. Therein lies the problem, it actually would be funny, if it weren't true. The sheeple will feel its good 'cuz it is *gummint 'proved* !! And all the ignorant suits out their will lockstep ... when in doubt nobody gets fired for buying *gummint approved* !!! THEN, the gummint boys can come back and say "...look 92% of businesses went along with it" as the raison d'etre for turning it into a mandate. I tend to think of this process as 'lemmings followed by a bulldozer' <long deep sigh> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBNBLACMdZgC62U/gIEQISCgCeIqmbttUr4OJMW4IEvX5M5IcS3wIAoMdb ec5/DGdCai/kac4R7hd+o4l7 =z941 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Brian B. Riley --> http://www.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys - Send Email Subject "Get PGP Key" "to be yourself in a world that tries, night and day, to make you just like everybody else - is to fight the greatest battle there ever is to fight and keep on fighting" - e.e. cummings

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by valdeez＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Cybercrime
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The domestic arms control and disarmament agencies are booming. Here are samples of the tech-law-money-gov-mil market which are both threatened and job-protected by strong encryption for communication and secrecy (like the traditional terrorists of ACDA and closed-session committees warning of "terrifying" arms going to uncontrollable rogues): The Department of Justice's Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section (CCIPS): http://jya.com/doj-ccips.htm The FBI's Awareness of National Security Issues and Response (ANSIR): http://jya.com/fbi-ansir.htm National Counterintelligence Center's 1997 Report on Foreign Information Collection and Industrial Espionage: http://jya.com/Na9757_1.htm The Digital Copyright Clarification Bill (S.1146): http://jya.com/s1146.txt

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BXA Testimony at SAFE Hearing
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

See William Reinsch's testimony on the administration's encryption policy at the September 4 SAFE hearing: http://jya.com/bxa090497.htm Perhaps dissimulating, or not then clued to the draft GAK bill, Reinsch states: 1. Foreign crypto products are not as widely available as export control critics claim, and thus do not threaten US products. 2. The administration is against mandatory key escrow. 3. Finds the SAFE bill unhelpful but likes its crypto-criminalization provision and favors McCain-Kerrey's Secure Public Network Act bill or other legislation that will: Expressly confirm the freedom of domestic users to choose any type or strength of encryption. Explicitly state that participation in a key management infrastructure is voluntary . Set forth legal conditions for the release of recovery information to law enforcement officials pursuant to lawful authority and provide liability protection for key recovery agents who have properly released such information. Criminalize the misuse of keys and the use of encryption to further a crime. Offer, on a voluntary basis, firms that are in the business of providing public cryptography keys the opportunity to obtain government recognition, allowing them to market the trustworthiness implied by government approval. ---------- Leads to the testimony of NSA's Cowell and Justice's Litt would be appreciated. Representative Weldon remarked at length about encryption and defense matters on September 4, supporting the administration's policy: http://jya.com/weldon.txt (46K)

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Democracy is the true enemy, and anarchists fight the true enemy (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 10:53:57 -0700 > From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > Subject: Democracy is the true enemy, and anarchists fight the true enemy > Democracy is the true enemy. Anarchists fight the true enemy. Oh pooh. Spare us the spin doctor diatribe... Anarchist are interested in protecting only their own person and possessions over and above all other factors. Furthermore, it in no way protects from oppression at the individual or social level. The only thing it does is guarantee that I will have to spend a great deal of my income on protection, most folks have something better to do with their time than participate in a system that believes the height of personal achievment is to sit around and stroke your gun looking for trespassers on their property. Try explaining how an anarchy is going to better protect my right to free speech or the economic and social stability required to carry on a business? Democracy <> Mob Rule Something you just don't seem to get. A good measure of the oppressive level in a given government is to examine who owns property versus who manages it. Type: Owner: Manager: Communism Govt. Govt. Fascist Indiv. Govt. Democracy Indiv. <> Shared Indiv. <> Shared Anarchy N/A N/A Changes in this relationship seem to be a good measure. For example consider the level of change in ownership rights before and after the changes in the confiscation laws. If one thinks of speech as a commodity this also holds. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: A helluva way to run a country, er, a world
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Declan wrote: >The CDA list has been moribund since its inception. A waste of time. My >list, f-c-a, has covered recent crypto events exhaustively. Even those who >are far from cypherpunkish in their views enjoy it; Mike Nelson, a former >White House crypto-lobbyist, told me at my party yesterday that it was the >best list of its type out there. > >http://www.well.com/~declan/fc/ Gosh, Declan, isn't Mike Nelson's endorsement a bit awkward for an fight-censorship list? Not to mention his show and slather the host at your do? That's assuming your bash was not a Time-reimbursible. If it was, then the WH rub-down and suck-up fits, and may god deliver the heaven-on-earth reward: White House Correspondent, spin navvy to the free world leader.

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