December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Government Conspiracy
by goddesshera＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Timmy C. Mayflower sexually molests little children, farm animals, and inanimate objects. < > < > V )_.._( V Timmy C. Mayflower \\ <____> // ~ <______> ~ > /~\______/~\ // /~\_____/~\ /_\ /~\____/~\ /_\ /~\___/\~\ _/_\/ \___/\__/__\/ \___/__\/ There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway." This message was automatically remailed. The sender is unknown, unlogged, and nonreplyable. Send complaints and blocking requests to <goddesshera(a)juno.com>.

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Stay Motion Handled 1-5
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We're banging away on the 20 Stay Motion images, up to page 5 of the USA's Ex Parte, will continue, and send along the pack when done. Not to head off anyone who wants to start at the back and MITM.

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Stay Motion Handled, All Pages
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We've completed keying in the 20 Stay Motion images, and are formatting and proofreading. Will send along when ready.

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[NOISE] Re: Notes from NIS&T Key Escrow Export conference.
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:04 PM 9/7/95 -0500, you wrote: >> Sorry for the typo, yes, I meant sham, fake, theater, all smoke and >> mirrors, nothing sincere, etc. See reference to "stage" above. >> >In this context, I think burlesque fits remarkably well. ;) >(Brings to mind a bunch of cross-dressors doing big theatre numbers >in exotic costumes) "I never wanted to be an eavesdropper - I wanted to be a ... lumberjack!" #--- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, Freelance Information Architect, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # Phone +1-510-247-0664 Pager/Voicemail 1-408-787-1281 #---

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patel pages 10,11,20,23 done
by miner 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: cryptography eliminates lawyers?
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>> > Telecoms will certainly break the professional >> > monopoly of lawyers (and other professionals). >> This I don't. How do you mean exactly? >Licensing requires the ability to outlaw unlicensed transactions. >Since the Net trumps censorship and allows consultations at a >distance, it cracks licensing, It does reduce the ability of geographical organizations to restrict who does business there, so markets will probably force some shakeups in jurisdictions. But lawyer work seems to mostly involve either contracts or courts - as long as courts are still run by governments, they can restrict who gets to practice in them, and who's allowed to write paper that they'll judge disputes about. Crypto _could_ be used for a modern version of the Stamp Tax - documents might need to be digitally signed by Certified Lawyers (though of course that may be lawyers putting their stamps on work mostly done by clerks.) Crypto may make it easier to resolve some kinds of disputes, by identifying who did what when, but the net isn't going to make the number of disputes decrease.... #--- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, Freelance Information Architect, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # Phone +1-510-247-0664 Pager/Voicemail 1-408-787-1281 #---

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Re: ON OFF-TOPIC [NOISE]
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:16 PM 9/7/95 -0400, Phill wrote: >>Nope. but the patriots & the cyPHerpunks share a common goal, and belief >>that it is none of the government's business what we think or want to >>share with our computers. >Poor you, the only major political party to come out with a pro crypto statement >is a socialist party. But - wait! Of course you're not a patriot - You're a foreigner! Oh, no! :-) >The problem is currently with the right wing, right wing democrats such as >Clinton and practically all the Republicans. As you later point out, it's really an authoritarian/libertarian issue, (though it's at least nice to hear somebody else who realizes Clinton's no liberal :-); it affects both economic control/freedom issues and freedom of speech issues as well. A lot of the Republicans, mainly the newly elected ones, are less anti-crypto, partly because they're pro-business, and sometimes pro-free-speech, but also because they're not as closely tied in to the authoritarian power structure the way Bush and Clinton have been. >If you want a debate on how to convince the authoritarians then perhaps you will >get some interest. That'll be tough. The military and police can already get good crypto, as can other gov't agencies that want to use it to increase their power. Crypto can also be really effective for National ID cards, but I'd really rather not encourage them to think along those lines at all, even using Chaum techniques. You can use it to hide campaign contributions and bribes, but of course they probably don't want to admit that in public. If everyone in the government were to use key-escrowed phones, folks like Ollie North would probably realize they had to be careful with their communications, but it would at least let gentlemen read each others' mail... Is there something authoritarians want, that we don't mind them having, for which crypto would be an enabling technology? Some of them _might_ be interested in having better encryption for TV channels so that kids can't watch a NotForKids channel (though many of them might rather ban it outright) or so they can easily control whether their kids get to watch MTV even though the V-Chip doesn't have a NoisyKidsMusic bit. Perhaps they'd enjoy having reputation systems available, so they can easily filter out politically incorrect material, or do a thumbs-down on things they disapprove of, or let the Baptists and Catholics and Anti-Baptists all have their own convenient ratings. #--- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, Freelance Information Architect, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # Phone +1-510-247-0664 Pager/Voicemail 1-408-787-1281 #---

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Stay Pages Finished
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The 20 images of the Stay have been digitized and formatted: http://jya.com/bernstein-stay.htm Thanks again to Dan, the Bernstein primary team and EFF.

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Cypherpunks Lite archives now available
by Eric Blossom 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've made available archives of the last 8 months of Cypherpunks Lite for your perusal. ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/co/comsec/cp-lite One year subscriptions are available for $20. To subscribe, send check or money order to: COMSEC Partners 1275 Fourth St., Suite 194 Santa Rosa, CA 95404. Be sure to indicate your email address and whether you want message-by-message delivery or a daily digest. Eric

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Re: ECPA (Was: University logging mail to anon.penet.fi)
by keelings＠wu1.wl.aecl.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Incoming from Jim Ray: > "Josh M. Osborne" <stripes(a)va.pubnix.com> writes: > > >down somewhat, in a very libertarian society oyu might be able to > >run a profatable ISP selling to the very nich market of people who > >want to threten, harass, or generally make a nuicence of themselves). > > As the list's designated "very libertarian" advocate, I must object. > Here is what you must sign to become a member of the Libertarian Party: And here, I must object (sorry Perry; I'll be brief). Whatever do the workings of an hypothetical "libertarian" society have to do with the "Libertarian Party"? Certainly, it would be nice if the latter were working towards the former, but the two are not the same. I know of quite a few `l'ibertarians who strongly object to the `L'ibertarian Party pledge. -- "Remember, obsolescence (Win95) isn't an accident; it's an art form!" keelings(a)wu1.wl.aecl.ca s. keeling, aecl - whiteshell labs

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