December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

patel pages 10,11,20,23 done
by miner 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: cryptography eliminates lawyers?
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>> > Telecoms will certainly break the professional >> > monopoly of lawyers (and other professionals). >> This I don't. How do you mean exactly? >Licensing requires the ability to outlaw unlicensed transactions. >Since the Net trumps censorship and allows consultations at a >distance, it cracks licensing, It does reduce the ability of geographical organizations to restrict who does business there, so markets will probably force some shakeups in jurisdictions. But lawyer work seems to mostly involve either contracts or courts - as long as courts are still run by governments, they can restrict who gets to practice in them, and who's allowed to write paper that they'll judge disputes about. Crypto _could_ be used for a modern version of the Stamp Tax - documents might need to be digitally signed by Certified Lawyers (though of course that may be lawyers putting their stamps on work mostly done by clerks.) Crypto may make it easier to resolve some kinds of disputes, by identifying who did what when, but the net isn't going to make the number of disputes decrease.... #--- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, Freelance Information Architect, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # Phone +1-510-247-0664 Pager/Voicemail 1-408-787-1281 #---

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Re: ON OFF-TOPIC [NOISE]
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:16 PM 9/7/95 -0400, Phill wrote: >>Nope. but the patriots & the cyPHerpunks share a common goal, and belief >>that it is none of the government's business what we think or want to >>share with our computers. >Poor you, the only major political party to come out with a pro crypto statement >is a socialist party. But - wait! Of course you're not a patriot - You're a foreigner! Oh, no! :-) >The problem is currently with the right wing, right wing democrats such as >Clinton and practically all the Republicans. As you later point out, it's really an authoritarian/libertarian issue, (though it's at least nice to hear somebody else who realizes Clinton's no liberal :-); it affects both economic control/freedom issues and freedom of speech issues as well. A lot of the Republicans, mainly the newly elected ones, are less anti-crypto, partly because they're pro-business, and sometimes pro-free-speech, but also because they're not as closely tied in to the authoritarian power structure the way Bush and Clinton have been. >If you want a debate on how to convince the authoritarians then perhaps you will >get some interest. That'll be tough. The military and police can already get good crypto, as can other gov't agencies that want to use it to increase their power. Crypto can also be really effective for National ID cards, but I'd really rather not encourage them to think along those lines at all, even using Chaum techniques. You can use it to hide campaign contributions and bribes, but of course they probably don't want to admit that in public. If everyone in the government were to use key-escrowed phones, folks like Ollie North would probably realize they had to be careful with their communications, but it would at least let gentlemen read each others' mail... Is there something authoritarians want, that we don't mind them having, for which crypto would be an enabling technology? Some of them _might_ be interested in having better encryption for TV channels so that kids can't watch a NotForKids channel (though many of them might rather ban it outright) or so they can easily control whether their kids get to watch MTV even though the V-Chip doesn't have a NoisyKidsMusic bit. Perhaps they'd enjoy having reputation systems available, so they can easily filter out politically incorrect material, or do a thumbs-down on things they disapprove of, or let the Baptists and Catholics and Anti-Baptists all have their own convenient ratings. #--- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, Freelance Information Architect, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # Phone +1-510-247-0664 Pager/Voicemail 1-408-787-1281 #---

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Stay Pages Finished
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The 20 images of the Stay have been digitized and formatted: http://jya.com/bernstein-stay.htm Thanks again to Dan, the Bernstein primary team and EFF.

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Cypherpunks Lite archives now available
by Eric Blossom 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've made available archives of the last 8 months of Cypherpunks Lite for your perusal. ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/co/comsec/cp-lite One year subscriptions are available for $20. To subscribe, send check or money order to: COMSEC Partners 1275 Fourth St., Suite 194 Santa Rosa, CA 95404. Be sure to indicate your email address and whether you want message-by-message delivery or a daily digest. Eric

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Re: ECPA (Was: University logging mail to anon.penet.fi)
by keelings＠wu1.wl.aecl.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Incoming from Jim Ray: > "Josh M. Osborne" <stripes(a)va.pubnix.com> writes: > > >down somewhat, in a very libertarian society oyu might be able to > >run a profatable ISP selling to the very nich market of people who > >want to threten, harass, or generally make a nuicence of themselves). > > As the list's designated "very libertarian" advocate, I must object. > Here is what you must sign to become a member of the Libertarian Party: And here, I must object (sorry Perry; I'll be brief). Whatever do the workings of an hypothetical "libertarian" society have to do with the "Libertarian Party"? Certainly, it would be nice if the latter were working towards the former, but the two are not the same. I know of quite a few `l'ibertarians who strongly object to the `L'ibertarian Party pledge. -- "Remember, obsolescence (Win95) isn't an accident; it's an art form!" keelings(a)wu1.wl.aecl.ca s. keeling, aecl - whiteshell labs

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Top 10 Ways to Make a Grouchy Old CypherPunk Smile - #7
by janke＠unixg.ubc.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Top 10 Ways to Make a Grouchy Old CypherPunk Smile -------------------------------------------------- #10) Find his shoes for him. #9) Buy Kent Crispin a Dr. Kevorkian gift-certificate. #8) Nuke Washington DC #7) Send ten copies of this back to Vulis. #6) #5) #4) #3) #2) #1) [This space reserved for T.C. May]

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9K P6
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There's a bit more on Intel's supercomp virtual NW tester at: URL: http://www.ssd.intel.com/press/asci1.html Here's a sample: ---------- Intel Scalable Systems Division Fortunately, advances in computer hardware and software technologies are making computer-based virtual weapons testing and prototyping a viable and affordable alternative to the traditional nuclear and non-nuclear testing of stockpile stewardship. The Intel teraflop computer announced today is a key milestone in the shift from nuclear testing to computer-simulated testing. The ASCI Program Located within the DOE's Defense Programs (DP) laboratories, the U.S. Department of Energy's Accelerated Strategic Computing Initiative (ASCI) is a multi-year program to extend DOE's computational resources to support virtual testing and prototyping capabilities for nuclear weapons. ... ASCI has four objectives, each of which requires computational capabilities that are beyond the capabilities of existing systems: * Performance -- Create credible virtual tests to analyze the performance and predict the behavior of nuclear weapons. * Safety -- Predict the behavior of full weapons systems in complex accident scenarios. * Reliability -- Develop the ability to make predictions that will extend the lifetime of current weapons, predict failure mechanisms and reduce routine maintenance requirements. * Renewal -- Use virtual prototyping to reduce production and testing facilities for stockpile requalification and replacement work. ... Beyond its weapons safety impact, the teraflop computer will have a wide range of other applications -- from developing safer, more efficient cars to simulating natural disasters in real-time to finding new drugs to fight disease. The machine will be one of the world's foremost scientific research tools and will act as a magnet for advanced research projects. In 1963, John Kennedy referred to a test ban treaty as a shaft of light cut into the darkness of the Cold War -- a chance to step back from the shadows of war. Today, by making it possible to ensure the safety, reliability, and performance of the weapons stockpile while foregoing nuclear testing, the Intel/Sandia teraflop computer can help the world take a further step back from the shadows of war into the light of peace.

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Re: GAK
by Carl Ellison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:09:03 -0800 >From: cman(a)communities.com (Douglas Barnes) > >One good (non-cypherpunk) argument against GAK is that it >concentrates a very large quantity of valuable keys in a few >places, where they become an extremely attractive target for >government or corporate espionage. [...] >Note that a few million keys would fit very easily on even a >low-end DAT tape (easily hidden in a pack of cigarettes). The same danger happens with the TIS DRC (see the company web page), even though there is no key escrow in the TIS system. Instead, the emergency access field (Data Recovery Field (DRF)) is stored with the file -- but the key which encrypts it is the public key of the Data Recovery Center (DRC). If too much attractive stuff is available by loss of any one public key, that key gets attacked. To compensate for this, the TIS DRC generates new public keys periodically to give out to new (or old) customers. However, a government warrant which demands the DRC's private key collection would gain quite a harvest. +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Carl M. Ellison cme(a)tis.com http://www.clark.net/pub/cme/home.html| |Trusted Information Systems, Inc. http://www.tis.com/ | |3060 Washington Road PGP 2.6.2: 61E2DE7FCB9D7984E9C8048BA63221A2| |Glenwood MD 21738 Tel:(301)854-6889 FAX:(301)854-5363 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Shrinks as Narcs for the State
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 8/30/97 12:00 PM, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM (dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com) passed this wisdom: >Can the priest be prosecuted for not telling the cops about the confession? Unless something has radically changed the sanctity of the Catholic confessional has never been breeched involuntarily ... i.e.,I do not believe that any court has ever successfully compelled a priest to divulge what he has heard in the confessional. Of course a problem lies in the construction of the question ... its easier to want to try to breech the confessional when you speak of a guy talking about killing a hundred people as opposed to a guy talking about stealing a candy bar. In various ethics discussions on this subject over the years it usually seems to comes down to the fact that morally the priest is bound to try to do something to stop the carnage without divulging what he was told. Brian B. Riley --> http://www.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys - Send Email Subject "Get PGP Key" "When I die, please cast my ashes upon Bill Gates. For once, let him clean up after me! " - Christian Worley

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