December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

DUMPSTER BONANZA
by Sandy Sandfort 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C'punks, This is not a crypto post, but those interested in threat models and counter-measures might want to read on. I just looked at the October issue of Soldier of Fortune. In an article entitled "SOF Exposes ATF's Warbirds" the author tells about the 7 to 12 attack aircraft that the BATF has purchased. Of course, it's interesting to hear how and why this agency decided it needed an airforce to pursue its mission, but the real story for me was how SOF busted them. SOF had heard rumors about a covert operation on the part of the BATF to procure these aircraft. They did their own surveillence of the BATF's phony cover corporation. This included dumpster diving. What they came up with was unbelievable. It included agents home addresses, the names of family members, official BATF stationery, the works. If you want to read a fascinating tale of BATF incompetence and duplicity, check this one out. S a n d y ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: lack of evolutionary pressures (was Re: An end to "court (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 09:52:26 -0700 > From: Lucky Green <shamrock(a)netcom.com> > Subject: Re: lack of evolutionary pressures (was Re: An end to "court > (fwd) > Let's try this from a different angle... Say it was charity. Would it, in > your opinion, be constitutional for a private charity to require Norplant > before dispensing the charitable goods and services? Contracts between private individuals are not constrained by the Constitution so your allegory is flawed. What the government can and can't do as a result of its charter to represent all the people has nothing to do with what two individuals arrange between themselves on a consensual basis involving a contract. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Participation requires more than just bitching! | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Re: lack of evolutionary pressures (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 10:18:44 -0700 > From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > Subject: Re: lack of evolutionary pressures > Bluntly > put, it ain't going _anywhere_, at least not very fast. Changes in the > characteristics of a species, loosely speaking, "evolution," happen faster > in small populations. Actualy this premise is false. The results of evolution stand out more in smaller populations because a given change can propogate through the population with less chance of being swammped by other changes that are also propogating through that population. There is also the fact that the vast majority of changes are either harmless or else debilitating further slowing the genetic drift. Look at it this way. If we have 1000 mating pairs and one of those pairs progeny has a genetic change it is much easier for that change to get propogated because the odds of the offspring mating with the other 999 pairs offspring are much higher than if there were say 10,000 pairs. The number of generations required for that change to become ubiquitous in small populations is much lower than in larger populations. The genetic drift for a given species is usualy low because of this dillution whereas if a punctuating event occurs it will lower the available pool of mates and hence the relative changes increase until the new population becomes stable, usualy because the mitigating effects of the punctuating event have receded. If you would like a concrete case to study, review the research about genetic drift in monkey populations in the Great Rift Valley in Africa. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Participation requires more than just bitching! | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Welfare Solution #389
by Mix 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Alex Le Heux (alexlh(a)yourchoice.nl) wrote: > Unfortunately our own government is slowely succumbing under the > international pressure, and soon we'll have our own War On Drugs here. I say, Lord help me if they outlaw hash bars. Anonymous wrote: > Many in the welfair class have their basic needs met by the government > and then steal to buy heroin. This is odd; I am sure that heavy drug dependents are more likely to want money from welfare, but I query you: Does that necessarily mean that welfare recipients are more likely to be drug dependent? > [Query: who is the victim in a drug case? -- but I digress...]. That's funny, I don't know who the victim is in this drug case you fail to describe. I haven't read the decision writings. How should I know? I could imagine that a junkie who takes some old lady's purse to buy heroin is victimizing the old lady, but is a student smoking marijuana and drinking a beer victimizing anyone? What about a heroin junkie who is rich, though unpopular, and never committed any other crime? Have they made themselves a victim of something? Maybe so...the needle, the darkness, the overwhelming Love Which Cannot Be Real. But the state shouldn't recognize "mystical entities" like this as perpetrators. The person in this case is making a choice; they will do no harm but to themselves. Are they then a victim, or a perpetrator, or both? > Also, if it was a crime where the victim suffered financial losses, the > defendant not only has to pay the Crime Victim's Fee but also restitution > to the victim. Does not theft of belongings in any case deserve punitive and recompensive financial damages? Like the U.S. Park Service theft of the ranch on Santa Cruz Island? -THE LIE

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Re: FCPUNX:Socio-Economic Cults (Re: CypherPunk Cults)
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:00 PM 8/21/97 -0700, Tim May wrote: > Interestingly, many of the strategies for moving assets offshore, to > offshore banks and money havens, is not so much to evade taxes as to > "protect assets." Protect them from ransom/extortion demands of the _legal > profession_ sort, e.g., "deep pockets" lawsuits. For example, somebody > finds out that J. Random Cypherpunk is financially well off--perhaps from > the increasing number of online credit report records, etc.--and decides to > have a convenient "fall" on his property. He then sues for some large > amount, either covered by Homeowner's Insurance, or more. In addition to famous deep pockets attacks on big corporations, for example the woman who supposedly lost her psychic powers as a result of a CAT scan, or the silicone lawsuits, there is also a significant business suing private individuals. One particular vicious scam is the famous child molestation accusation. You privately agree you molested your child and pay $50 000 for "therapy", and provided you pay and cooperate your admission will be kept quiet, or you are charged with ritual child abuse involving upside down crucifixes and the like. > (Don't anybody waste their or my time with penny ante ideas for getting > small amounts of money out of the country.) Use the beef futures tactic: Somebody placed a bet on beef going up. If it goes up, it was Tim's offshore corporation that bet on it. If it goes down, it was Tim that bet on it. Gee, it seems that Tim has had a run of bad luck in his gambling on the futures market. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Practical Assassination Politics
by Mike Duvos 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I was just browsing the Foresight Exchange (formerly Idea Futures) and notice that there have been a few changes. First, the instruments are now referred to as "bets" and there is quite a bit more use of the language of "Non-Traditional Wagering." One claim that caught my eye was BCPrez, owned by sburnap(a)wsgc.com and judged by Gafter(a)eng.sun.com. This claim pays $1 for each YES coupon if Bill Clinton is President of the United States at noon on January 1, 2001. This claim pays $1 for each NO coupon if Bill Clinton is no longer President of the United States at noon on January 1, 2001, for any reason including, but not limited to resignation, impeachment, or death. ^^^^^:) -- Mike Duvos $ PGP 2.6 Public Key available $ enoch(a)zipcon.com $ via Finger $ {Free Cypherpunk Political Prisoner Jim Bell}

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by free＠web.site 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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by free＠web.site 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Shooting the taggers
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Grand Wazoo MixMaster wrote the lie: > There appears to be a wonderful market for long-range nonlethal > stun weapons. I wonder, if a tagger is marking your building, > would it be legal to stun him from a distance and then call the > cops? > > Rape can be argued to be deserving of serious punishment of some kind, > but would tagging deserve death when a nonlethal option exist? Could > not the woman stun the rapist and then call the cops? No. Stun guns are increasingly illegal because some guy once used one to rob a 7-11 or something, for $15.00. Since stopping rape is worth less than $15.00 to those who make the laws, they have decided that a few thousand rapes is a small price to pay to protect minuscule corporate interests. -THE 1/2LIE

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17 Dec '03

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