December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Root Causes
by liberty＠gate.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- <snip> PLEASE NOTE: IANAL either [yet] But, MONTY HARDER wrote: > [Please do not start an abortion flamefest on the list. If you want > to argue it via Imail, I can handle that, but let's not bother the > rest of the class, OK?] I agree, and this post has nothing to do with that controversy [I hope]. > > The Supremes found the right to have an abortion in some kind of >"penumbral" right to <BOLD> privacy </BOLD>, which in turn came from >Griswold v. Connecticut, if organic RAM serves. Given this precedent, >may we challenge anti-crypto crap such as the Grassley Bill as a >violation of the right to privacy? Good idea, but I have an idea to upset even *more* people. First of all, has anyone else noticed how the Republicans have placed life-and-death emphasis lately on the oft-ignored 10th Amendment. Amendment X -- "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." IMO, the Republicans will continue to do this as long as they can win the overwhelming majority of governorships, which is for the foreseeable future. Democrats, of course, don't like this and prefer unconstrained federal power [preferably in the hands of someone other than Newt, though]. There is, however, another Amendment which goes beyond being oft-ignored to the status of being truly forgotten, without ever having been repealed. Amendment IX -- "The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." [The right to write code was among many rights NOT enumerated.] Republicans AND Democrats ALL HATE the 9th Amendment, which is the primary reason *I* like it so much. Various lawyers, judges, and [especially] law professors will sputter that the 9th is "impertinent!" or "irrelevant!" and should be ignored, and Jim Ray is just spouting off [again] about the slow erosion of freedom in this country. My rejoinder is "OK, if we're supposed to ignore it, why not just REPEAL it, after all, it's just sitting there doing nothing, cluttering up the rest of the Bill of Rights." Usually, conversation [and, I suspect, my eventual grade] degenerates at this point. Those C-punks not in law school, however, should keep the 9th in mind when talking about Constitutional issues on encryption rights, if for no other reason than to educate the public. In court, of course, I would concentrate on the 1st. Apologies to the various lurking law professors on the list, I am not talking about you. Also, this diatribe is mere academic speculation and not a legal opinion and IANAL and I have been known to be wrong in the past and I no-doubt will be wrong again in the future and most people in the legal profession think this is wrong so don't rely on it and your lawyer will think you are crazy if you say this to him (so don't) and so on and so on... JMR > > <snip> Regards, Jim Ray "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong." Voltaire - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PGP key Fingerprint 51 5D A2 C3 92 2C 56 BE 53 2D 9C A1 B3 50 C9 C8 Key id. # E9BD6D35 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Support the Phil Zimmermann (Author of PGP) Legal Defense Fund! email: zldf(a)clark.net or visit http://www.netresponse.com/zldf ________________________________________________________________________ - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBMAlYGCoZzwIn1bdtAQFAvAF/U/0u/BjNThGjDeeOsv5CujcJcFBKf5Hx +SsUFAwYyD5I5DWosWA0iTZesc/DO3UR =bAZm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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A Chronology on crypto bans
by banisar＠epic.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Someone asked why is there such a flurry recently on banning crypto in recent months. This is not a recent issue. There have been almost non-stop attempts for the last 15 years. I've been finishing up this chapter in the book Bruce Schneier and I are writing on crypto battles. Every so often a new FOIA document floats in from some request I made 3-4 years ago hat makes me have to revise it again. Here s a small chronology based on the chapter. ------ Attempts to ban encprytion 1977-1995 1977-1980 NSA Director Inman calls crypto born secret. Should be restricted. Attempts to use Invention Secrecy Act of 1951 to patent inventions by academic researchers. Attempts to use export control laws to limit scientific discussion. NSA Threates NSF over grants for crypto studies. 1981 American Council on Education committee recommends voluntary submissions of cryto papers to NSA 1984 National Security Decision Directive 145. Gave NSA authority over all govt crypto and computer security development. 1986 NSTISSP. Attempted to extend NSDD-145 to private sector. USe to justify visits to LEXIS/NEXIS, Dialog, public libraries etc. 1987 Congress passes Computer Security Act. Gives crypto authority to NIST. 1989 NIST signs MOU with NSA giving back authority to NSA. NIST starts development of new public key system to do both signatures and key exchange. 1990 After pressure by NSA. NIST adopts El Gamal for signatures only. NSA secreatly designs "algorithm on a chip" for key exchange. FBI, NSA and NIST also begin "National Cryptgraphic Review". 1991 FBI asks Senator Joseph Biden to introduce "Sense of Congress" to recommend backdoors in all encpryption, telephone systems. Provision removed after public outcry. Later evolves into digital telephony proposal. October 1991, NSA, FBI, CIA meet to discuss possible legislation on encryption. 1992 NIST memo - "FBI working on draft legislation to control and liscense all cryptography" 1993 Clipper Proposal introduced. Interagency working group formed by Presidential Review Directive 27. According to NSA memo on IWG "FBI proposed legislation to authorize the FCC to regulate common carriers, PBX operators, and manufacturers of encryption devices available for use in the US to ensure such systems and devices are compatable with law enforcement electronic surveillance interests....the interagency working group revied proposed legislation and concluded that ....legislation to authorize regulation of encryption product manufacturers would be considerably more difficult [than passing the digital telephone proposal] and required further study." 6 options were discussed including prohobiting all other encprytion besides Clipper. The other five have been classified "top secret". -------- Dave David Banisar (Banisar(a)epic.org) * 202-544-9240 (tel) Electronic Privacy Information Center * 202-547-5482 (fax) 666 Pennsylvania Ave, SE, Suite 301 * ftp/gopher/wais cpsr.org Washington, DC 20003 * HTTP://epic.digicash.com/epic

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"Just write code"
by an250888＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Just write code. For whatever platform you like writing code for. And while you're at it, make it as platform-independent as possible. Porting to another platform or system involves writing code, no? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. If you reply to this message, your message WILL be *automatically* anonymized and you are allocated an anon id. Read the help file to prevent this. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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Re: Mods to Dining Cryptographers: legal questions...
by pcw＠access.digex.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>I'm sorry if I was a little mysterious about my reference to >another use or mode of a DC-net; I'd _love_ to tell the rest of >you flat-out, and put the idea in the public domain, but I'm >not sure I _CAN_. > You should investigate an idea known as the provisional patent that is relatively new to the United States. They're supposedly shorter and designed to give you some claim to the ideas as well as some time to develop them enough to file a real patent. I can't give you any other advice except to tell you that my patent agent is also curious about them because they're new. -Peter

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Esther Dyson in NYT
by dshayer＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Todays (sunday 7-16-95) NYT Magazine has an excellent (IMHO) article by Esther Dyson on why the government should not regulate the net. Its not written for techies like us, its written for normal non-wired people, like our parents and our senators. The article is clear, easy to follow, makes it points well, and refrains from overused analogies about highways and roadkill. So next time you're at a loss for words arguing with some clueless offline luser about why porn and pedophiles really aren't rampant all over the net, show them this article. David +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |David Shayer dshayer(a)netcom.com | |Sentient Software / Symantec | |"Spam is not a verb." | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Mods to Dining Cryptographers: legal questions...
by monty.harder＠famend.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

PF> spend on software patents. I don't, and don't mean to say that _he_ PF> goes around stealing ideas from other people and patenting them.) PF> PF> How do I do this and protect myself from the people who do have the PF> money to go through the intellectual property courthouse game? IANAL, but... Create a detatched signature certificate of your idea, and post =that= here. Get some of us to sign it I, _______, a resident of _______ County, __________, do hereby attest that I recieved the above certificate on _____ ___,1995. [plaintext for non-crypto-aware folks] and email to you. Also, make two hard copies, including hard copies of our notarizations you recieve back . Put one of them in an envelope with a 3.5" floppy of everything, and address the =back= to yourself. Go into the post office, and ask the clerk to hand-cancel the envelope, so that the cancellation goes half across the flap and the rest on the envelope. When you get this from yourself in the mail, you put it in your safety- deposit box or equivalent. This way, when you open the envelope in the presence of the Judge/Jury you have the word of the US Postal Service that you had X idea on Y date, not to mention the corroborrating e-signatures. If Z were to claim authorship, you could ask Z to prove it by forging your signature on another document. This could go a long way toward proving the value of PGP signature to the Unwashed Masses, =and= illustrate the danger of GACK + corrupt gummit agent (in the light of the Ruby Ridge and Waco hearings, people will be =quite= sensitive to the fact that agents can and do abuse their power). In fact, the ability for us to be able to attest to your possession of Document X on Date Y, without any of us ever seeing X itself, is one of the most powerful uses of digital signatures. I can see Phil Z. being called as an expert witness, to establish the mechanism involved. Joe Sixpack needs to hear Dan Blather mention this on the Evening News. OK, not Blather, but Koppel would do it. Maybe even John Stossel on 20/20. This is what we need to be pushing to the Luddite crowd: The very new technology that frightens them, because they percieve it as out of their control, brings with it new means for people to take control. Even if you lost your case on some other grounds, it would be one of the best PR bits for PGP I can think of. * Don't say "Gun Control", it's "Victim Disarmament". --- * Monster(a)FAmend.Com *

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PGP FAQ
by ENRIQUE S. IGNARRA 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Could someone here politely send me some email on where i could get an updated PGP FAQ? I have an old one for v2.3a. I'd like to get an updated one. But where the old one says to go, the directory no longer exists. Thanks! Enrique s0496872(a)dominic.barry.edu

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Re: Root Causes
by jgrubs＠voxbox.norden1.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- liberty(a)gate.net (Jim Ray) writes: > Amendment IX -- "The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights > shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." > > [The right to write code was among many rights NOT enumerated.] > Most importantly, it includes the right to decide what the other unenumerated rights are..... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: http://norden1.com/~jim/sylvania.html iQCVAwUBMAm//N74r4kaz3mVAQHMJAP/RTmdhZc63J6XzL8FfKK6wk9RrXgcOZ4c kZHGqYzOo0ZJKbmsugOwEjerpGsbeIUu3SzM+vrVA+BaWHLaufELSmh7AQW4/FcY XyKv3Zu/JBBxEca+H0qbix/q433c+2r2iKJ1p8p1c8jgK/L+c66cJiTgWGMt2vPZ XBBMaYAOIUg= =DQyv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- WebCasters(tm) James C. Grubs jgrubs(a)voxbox.norden1.com 6817 Maplewood Avenue Tel.: 419-882-2697 Sylvania, Oh 43560 Fax: 419-885-2814 Internet consulting, HTML programing, Information brokering

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Mixmaster@obscura.com back with new keys.
by loki＠obscura.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mixmaster(a)obscura.com is back. Obscura crashed last weekend, taking all data with it. The remailer is running again but the secret keys were lost. This remailer is running Mixmaster 2.0.1 and the latest Ghio type1 remailer for cypherpunk messages. Here is the mixmaster key: mix mixmaster(a)obscura.com db91418edac3a4d7329feaee0b79c74f 2.0.1 -----Begin Mix Key----- db91418edac3a4d7329feaee0b79c74f 258 AATL25WGQY5CMM0/xBjYtuN6IT75h+aBQwwKqZZc isOrqdsl8HWAzARrB0iAtcr34c2qqPBzSRNa5UE8 d3jOYu/wp9K9M5abUSRogcDl7gkPlqxc+e72SdKd 2Gdgib8VDGVLpJdaPk4uSY/pkmsYB30OaQH3W8dU PPciTvSJKAYcTQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQAB -----End Mix Key----- and here is the pgp key: -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQBtAzAGIaQAAAEDAJpPdFihCI1Cfpc8njkqOSma/GVvS5nodpTnnff3B3RuZWJN bEvxC3s8TATo6f5JdXqOkZBXQCK+aHke4LKw+MGNNXBYeWH60NZ0IihVThHeyYqL f4ZQNJHlMlFfDrQEgQAFEbQqTWl4bWFzdGVyIFJlbWFpbGVyIDxtaXhtYXN0ZXJA b2JzY3VyYS5jb20+iQEVAwUQMAnzn/Pzr81BVjMVAQEzRQgAk3ansqZb2y8orEim 0igHJpA22J15l6tu5ZihHpnBbXJEqdDKvsp6P/LG+ZDBXa8bGGg7RxZ1xXFqVWSO kkv9iqcoMWB14VHzC5A6MckhkpUGqPt+HMyUEW/JnGzZ202Z4aaVXOjXMsLf5jo1 VIp94/8nQen+QJThpJLmaNGgl8z60skyXzbtoz93Wy6IZAQYYImeswSrYukO1wC6 FXy0/a3AkDjd7mJiCtA2m7tTxCZr2EBlSu4VemG1APmCTjh2f/wyXNU1iXmTDb7N QcplTAwpROrdvtBeslE+bzYqWZqipcFHHyW9W6YUVIr18cojt6k5GEVzI9WCEgAO v+kA1YkAlQMFEDAJ82xVZJN3Wse4ZQEBc7gD/izVs3+jXs3Ze+U+ZVmfO6guUcMU RB4VsNS6n5BHRm6KS7qXCXxHYc0tehkuHVuGD0riSaS232P0NNmp1D4dzXtUVQCY BZfMbWX4EooqHGGRAoqPGZuke8pZYfVGARUKFQB8+zqKGhCum8z1sbUPUgzR5bie Un9sktwsWEJEIcNoiQB1AwUQMAnxfeUyUV8OtASBAQF/5gL+OksEqwyBE+pUZCmN 1AXAmKlRxkd6gybJJl8lXOOa4KVGmSEroYW8pac+TlraJb6j90LvbqJ+7PHuMtHT 84uRna183HDqKOd6NMdwTTimE6ZGueGBB7mwIysaTU8oCZ66 =0s+r -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -Lance -- Lance Cottrell loki(a)obscura.com PGP 2.6 key available by finger or server. Mixmaster, the next generation remailer, is now available! http://obscura.com/~loki/Welcome.html or FTP to obscura.com "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come." --Nietzsche

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Re: ECM list.
by Bryce Wilcox 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > For example, you might be holding $85.73 in digicash (having played the > various slot machine pages, maybe bought a sky photograph from the Bradford > telescope). That's just about right. > What would it take for you to buy more digicash? How about to sell it? Right now I am thinking of e$ as a "collectors item" or a fun thing to brag about in some distant year. I'm offering US$1.00 for e$15.00, but I will quit offering that price once I run out of US$ or decide that I have enough e$! I think that the ecm market is probably composed of very few people who mostly want to buy, and is therefore not a high-volume market! If the ecm market got a link from the DigiCash home page (which I'm sure it could do) then you would probably get lots of people who just got their free e$100.00 and who are willing to sell part of it after having experienced the wonders of the slot machines and the "e$0.01-per-move tic-tac-toe" games. Could we set up a WWW version of the ecm market, listing latest offers to anyone with a WWW browser? Things might really pick up-- at least for us buyers! I'm also considering other strategies for gaining e$-- offering a service on the DigiCash "cybershops" page, or just going to all my e-mail using friends, showing them how to get their free e$100.00, and then begging them to give me half of it. (Finder's fee? Friendly gift?) Possibly I shouldn't have posted the above and given my e$-collecting competitors the idea, because eventually DigiCash is going to quit giving out freebies! Hopefully my friends will get on the ball and acquire their freebies before that point! :-) [mental note to add some of said friends to the Cc: line...] Bryce P.S. Oh great. My "friends" are asking for the $1.00 for e$15.00 deal... signatures follow /=============------------ Bryce Wilcox, Programmer [THIS SPACE FOR RENT] bryce.wilcox(a)colorado.edu ------------=============/ E-mail is between you and me-- use PGP! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 iQCVAwUBMAoTRZCUT4gUihHlAQEBMgQAueueOvkxSsVRBS20k49zUhOr8wa/CKcD vqsKLhHoeWhrXuYMKV5KTGgQ86TLwiu5n1C0fjomcJ+86UT1Py09i+yfeBj956hH sMFoGHgu4jKtQPZ94FsmsCzfDXPF6htnuOnQYjSrAydckomZoiQfPICDFRGeiSTp FbXeDMRMrMs= =1z8A -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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