December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: cypherpunk "Zen" victories
by Doug Hughes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Vladimir Z. Nuri scribbled: > >I was recently marvelling at how much the "cypherpunk agenda" >is being advanced even in light of what would seem to be setbacks. >Particularly in the area of anonymous remailers. We now have a very >major article on remailers and Julf's setup in the NYT that portrays >them in an unbiased, unhysteria-stricken mode. Also in the article, >it quotes the police as regretting their falling victim to >Scientology manipulation and investigating the remailer "without >cause". A major officer is quoted as saying, roughly, "we are >going to need a crime before we investigate in the future". > Could you provide a page, date, and title for this article? I would like to read it but don't get a daily subscription. Muchas gracias Doug Hughes Engineering Network Services doug(a)eng.auburn.edu Auburn University

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Re: "Hey Phil! Stop telling people *not* to use PGP!" (plus: "help me with my PGP problems!") (fwd)
by Robert A. Hayden 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 19 Jul 1995, Bryce Wilcox wrote: [lots of really really good stuff deleted, because I really don't have anything good to add to it] > I am fond of saying that we PGP enthusiasts have two choices ahead of us > within a couple of years: either 5,000 enthusiasts using PGP with > MAXIMAL SECURITY at all times, or 5,000 enthusiasts with MAXIMAL > SECURITY and 10,000,000 computer-illiterate e-mail users using PGP with > push-button interfaces and multi-user remote systems. I said it last week, and I'll say it again. From a sociological standpoint, it's those 10,000,000 computer-illiterate e-mail users that we need to focus all of our efforts towards. Those 5,000 literate people we really don't have to care about. I will say, and this makes for interesting commentary, over the last week or so, I've released those simple scripts for Pine (and today for Tin) that integrate digital signing fairly seamlessly with those programs. I've received about 200 requests since Monday from people asking where to find PGP, asking about similiar scripts for Windoze or Dos or Mac, or thanking me for providing an easier way to do digital signatures. And that was a simple sh script! Imagine if some people with REAL writing ability worked on some programs... Pushing for wide use of digital signatures is one way to get PGP to be a "household" name for people writing on the net. I now sign everything I post and mail. It gets people's attention and interest. Interest leads to use. > The important thing, of course, is the easy-to-use, e-mail-integrated > software (version 3.0, I hope?), but it would also help if Zimmermann's > PGP Doc didn't tell those computer-illiterates to either "become enthusiasts > or don't use it." I think the politics of PGP is stagnated at about two years ago or so. The demographics are no longer accepting to long technical rants. Today's generation of net.user doesn't need 100% security 100% of the time, what they need is "good" security when they want it, but in a way that they don't have to think much about. Sorry if I'm ranting again abotu everything I said last week. I'm in the process of doing research on social evolution using the net as an example of accelerated cultural change. I'm kinda in a specific mindset right now :-). -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP Signed with PineSign 2.1 iQCVAwUBMA1WVjokqlyVGmCFAQEtJgP+JPbrM4KSQGiIznlnghYs1FEizGGhHLJZ +cSz36jatErJ/kFOEsNSwLz0crjdyHtv2v3ojsExTQVgQxzS/U60zwNR+gPxwdr7 bpIoEaZwGtANmsrkUtTqIwEncs7WPAF08ZbbaZpeB58qcvnpAergshrJya7gtOSM Wp8BqFcU+84= =TOLZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> Cthulhu Matata \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> hayden(a)krypton.mankato.msus.edu \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> http://att2.cs.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden

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Adding
by netchaos＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I would like to be added to your list.

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TINSIGN: Simple script for PGP signing messages in Tin 1.22
by Robert A. Hayden 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Howdy, me again. In keeping with my wish to make PGP signing of transmissions simple and commonplace, I've got another script for y'all. This is for the Tin Newsreader. I hope you find it useful. Comments appreciated. ============================================================ #!/bin/sh # TinSign v1.0 # Written by Robert A. Hayden <hayden(a)krypton.mankato.msus.edu> # Based in part on the PGP editor wrapper, Version 1.0 (editpgp) # Copyright (c) 1994, Mark Lewis <nostra(a)city.ac.uk>. # TINSIGN is a simple program that will allow you to automatically sign # your news messages composed with the TIN 1.2pl2 news reader. It # may also work with other news programs, but it has not been tested. # INSTRUCTIONS FOR CONFIGURING TIN # # You need to define the following options in Tin. This is done via # editing the $HOME/.tin/tinrc file. # # A) start_editor_offset=ON # B) default_editor_format=<path to this script> +%N %F # Example: /users/foo/bar/tinsign +%N %F # C) default_sigfile=/dev/null # NOTE: I have been unable to get my copy of tin to read # any file other than $HOME/.signature, no matter # what this parameter is set to. The solution I # found was to remove $HOME/.signature and create # another file that is read in by defining the # variable below. You may want to experiment with # this to find out what works best for you as this # might be a bug specific to our local compilation. # INSTRUCTIONS FOR CONFIGURING TINSIGN # # The PGP program must be in your path, and the PGPPATH environment # variable must be defined. See the PGP documentation for details. # # In addition to PGP and the editor you define, TinSign also will use the # following programs: # awk # cat # echo # egrep # mv # rm # sleep # # Double check that the first line of this program points to sh. # # Execute the command "chmod 700 <path/to/tinsign>". # # Edit the SIGPATH and TINEDITOR variables to point at your signature # (if any) and the editor you wish to use for your Tin messages. Default # signature will be the file .signature-tin in your $HOME directory. # Default editor is pico -z -t. # # Define SIGPATH=/dev/null if you do not have an ASCII signature to # append. SIGPATH=$HOME/.signature-tin TINEDITOR='pico -z -t' # INSTRUCTIONS FOR USING TINSIGN # # When you compose a message, you will compose your message as normal. # # When you exit your editor (control-X in Pico), you will receive a # prompt asking for your PGP passphrase. Type this in. # # At this point, if you have defined one, your ASCII signature will be # appended to the message AFTER the digital signature. # # You will then be put into the Tin menu asking if you wish to edit your # posting some more, quit the post (ie, abort it), or post it. ### DO NOT TAMPER BELOW THIS LINE UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING ### # Define internal variables filename=`echo $2 | cut -f$# -d' '` tmpdir=/tmp #Run editor $TINEDITOR +$1 $2 # Split the headers from the body of the article awk '{ print }; /^$/ { exit }' $filename > ${tmpdir}/tmp$$.hdr awk 'body == 1 { print }; /^$/ { body=1 }' $filename > ${tmpdir}/tmp$$ # Remove "--" egrep -ve '^--$' ${tmpdir}/tmp$$ > ${tmpdir}/tmp2$$ mv ${tmpdir}/tmp2$$ ${tmpdir}/tmp$$ # Sign the message pgp -sat +comment="PGP Signed with TinSign 1.0" +clearsig=on ${tmpdir}/tmp$$ if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then cat ${tmpdir}/tmp$$.hdr ${tmpdir}/tmp$$.asc > $filename else echo ""; echo "*Error in signing. Aborted." sleep 5 fi # clean up any files in temp space rm -f ${tmpdir}/tmp$$.hdr ${tmpdir}/tmp$$.asc ${tmpdir}/tmp$$ # append your ASCII signature to the message echo " " >> $filename cat $SIGPATH >> $filename -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP Signed with PineSign 2.1 iQCVAwUBMA1AZjokqlyVGmCFAQGv4QP/XB8BU91sU0KlzWTKkyZaW4j2KYKDzGin SgbFtdd9KdcoalhLU0myzOvMcpr3QAhAbaXN4Zq56IE/OYm5WL0MUJnJ6GF7kdEc F2r0vC9Nt7iZrWoG7LsqJrKrlLDp8eFhcWrpkwhH7trWA2jAjqHzof4Gy0fr8LD0 Xc1KEPpQ+JA= =Jsj3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> Cthulhu Matata \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> hayden(a)krypton.mankato.msus.edu \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> http://att2.cs.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden

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Re: "Hey Phil! Stop telling people *not* to use PGP!" (plus: "help mewith my PGP problems!") (fwd)
by Andrew Loewenstern 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Robert A. Hayden writes: > I said it last week, and I'll say it again. From a sociological > standpoint, it's those 10,000,000 computer-illiterate e-mail users > that we need to focus all of our efforts towards. Those 5,000 > literate people we really don't have to care about. [...snip...] > Imagine if some people with REAL writing ability worked on some > programs... [...snip...] > I think the politics of PGP is stagnated at about two years ago or > so. The demographics are no longer accepting to long technical > rants. Today's generation of net.user doesn't need 100% security > 100% of the time, what they need is "good" security when they want > it, but in a way that they don't have to think much about. This has been hashed over on the list many, many times in the past. I suspect there are competent programmers out there who want to write easy-to-use interfaces for PGP (I know at least one), but there are problems. To write a good GUI interface (with proper key-management features) on Windows or Mac, for instance, you need to have access to PGP's internal crypto routines as well as the routines for reading and writing PGP messages and key certificates. The problem is that the PGP 2 code does not have the internal 'core' routines separated from it's command-line interface. The answers are to either shell out to PGP (which, AFAIK, is what every interface except MacPGP does), hack the PGP 2 code, or use PGPTools. Shelling out to PGP isn't going to cut it for a slick GUI package, especially if you want to have a decent key-management interface. You could do it, but it will be slow and kludgy and you will have to change it all when PGP 3 comes out. Hacking PGP would be a major effort. Additionally, there is risk of introducing a subtle flaw in the crypto routines. However, the main killer is that PGP 3 is going to have a brand new key-ring format along with many other enhancements, fixes, and other changes to the crypto code. All of the work will have to be done again to bring the interface up to date when PGP 3 is released, which could be within 6 months (who knows?). PGPTools is buggy and not supported. Any effort to bring PGPTools up to a stable level would likely be thrown away when PGP 3 is released. The real solution is that PGP 3 will have all of it's core routines in a separate library with a stable API specifically for the purpose of writing slick interfaces. So basically all of the would-be PGP interface developers are waiting for beta releases of the library. Unfortunately, this has been the situation for almost two years now. By now the PGP 2 code could have been completely turned into a library with a clean API and no command-line interface remnants, but developers have been discouraged by the promise of PGP 3 coming out 'RSN'... andrew ...still waiting for pgp 3 news...

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cfs on linux - rpcgen broken in slackware distribution!
by zinc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

cpunks, yesterday i requested some help compiling cfs on my linux system. well, after some serious help i got it to work. the problem was that my copy of rpcgen was broken. this was the copy installed with the slackware distribution. damn, this is some sort of never ending contest between my sanity and the slackware distribution! -pat patrick finerty = zinc(a)zifi.genetics.utah.edu = pfinerty(a)nyx.cs.du.edu U of Utah biochem grad student in the Bass lab - zinc fingers + dsRNA! ** FINGER ME for my pgp public key ** crypto for the masses! zifi runs LINUX 1.2.11 -=-=-=WEB=-=-=-> http://zifi.genetics.utah.edu

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Re: "Hey Phil! Stop telling people *not* to use PGP!" (plu
by jfmesq＠ibm.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>I've received about 200 requests since Monday from people asking where to >find PGP, asking about similiar scripts for Windoze or Dos or Mac.... If anyone asks about OS/2, a good script is available at ftp.gibbon.com. FWIW. --JFM

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Re: (Cracking) Netscape (is) the Big Win
by Peter Trei 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > Timothy C. May writes: > > Integration of crypto into Netscape is thus the Big Win. > Crypto *is* integrated into Netscape. Unfortunately, the crypto is SSL > -- a complete waste of time. >[snip] > Perry This is why it's imperative for cpunks to work on the SSL challenge recently posted. Cracking 40 bit RC4 will provide a strong industry incentive to move towards stronger crypto standards, and to pressure the government to relax ITAR. If the SSL crack looks like it will take a while to gear up, perhaps we should work on an interim project, cracking a straight 40bit rc4 encrypted message. If there is interest, I can create such a text, and escrow the key and plaintext in a PGP-encoded posting. While such a crack will not be as strong a blow against SSL and 40-bit crypto as cracking a complete SSL transaction, it will be a lot better then only being able to say 'Well, we didn't find a key, but we *did* sweep 40 bits of keyspace', which is all we have now. If need be, we can follow up with a crack of full-bore SSL. Disclaimer: I work on a competing product, but am posting this in my private capacity. We've bigger fish to fry than Netscape. Peter Trei ptrei(a)acm.org Peter Trei Senior Software Engineer Purveyor Development Team Process Software Corporation trei(a)process.com

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EVENT: NY-only, non-NY folks ignore (fwd)
by Ray Arachelian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

=================================================================93======= + ^ + | Ray Arachelian | Amerika: The land of the Freeh. | \-_ _-/ | \|/ |sunder(a)escape.com| Where day by day, yet another | \ -- / | <--+-->| | Constitutional right vanishes. |6 _\- -/_ 6| /|\ | Just Say | |----\ /---- | + v + | "No" to the NSA!| Jail the censor, not the author!| \/ | =======/---------------------------------------------------------VI------/ / I watched and weeped as the Exon bill passed, knowing that yet / / another freedom vanished before my eyes. How soon before we see/ /a full scale dictatorship in the name of decency? While the rest / /of_the_world_fights_FOR_freedom,_our_gov'ment_fights_our_freedom_/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 01:12:41 -0400 (EDT) From: She Devil With A Modem! <redsonja(a)computel.com> To: sunder(a)escape.com Subject: EVENT: NY-only, non-NY folks ignore (fwd) Also Sprach Shabbir J. Safdar: >From shabbir(a)panix.com Mon Jul 17 23:51:37 1995 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 23:45:32 -0400 From: "Shabbir J. Safdar" <shabbir(a)panix.com> Message-Id: <199507180345.XAA05923(a)panix3.panix.com> To: stop314(a)panix.com Subject: EVENT: NY-only, non-NY folks ignore ====================================================================== Campaign to stop the 1995 Communications Decency Act FREE NEW YORK WORKSHOP We encourage you to forward this to friends DO NOT REDISTRIBUTE AFTER July 22, 1995 ______________________________________________________________________ WORKSHOP DETAILS What: A free workshop on current online censorship legislation and the viable alternatives. When: Saturday July 22nd, 1-4pm Where: ACLU offices at Times Sq (132 West 43rd St at 6th Ave) Who: Everyone (teachers, librarians, businesses, everyone!) 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cypherpunk "Zen" victories
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I was recently marvelling at how much the "cypherpunk agenda" is being advanced even in light of what would seem to be setbacks. Particularly in the area of anonymous remailers. We now have a very major article on remailers and Julf's setup in the NYT that portrays them in an unbiased, unhysteria-stricken mode. Also in the article, it quotes the police as regretting their falling victim to Scientology manipulation and investigating the remailer "without cause". A major officer is quoted as saying, roughly, "we are going to need a crime before we investigate in the future". Look what we got out of this: 1) incredible positive publicity for Julf, Hero of the Net 2) introduction of the concept of anonymous remailers to the layman 3) police awareness. increased reluctance to go on anonymous remailer witchhunts. advice to other police to do the same. 4) only *one* address was compromised on Julf's system. a small price to pay for all this 5) Time Magazine also did an article on Julf a few months ago and this compromise in identity. *astonishing* publicity. All in all, I would say the effect was an overall "net positive". It reminds me of a zen-like saying, "sometimes you lose by winning and win by losing". It would seem on the face of it that the Helsingius Affair was a debacle from the point of view of pseudonymity. However I would consider it a extraordinary success. The major foes of pseudonymity have so far been misguided police forces in Finland, who now say they resent the solicitude of the US into their own affairs, and would not be so eager to cooperate in the future; another foe is a radical religious cult that is finding its own set of 20th century heretics, and attempting to excommunicate them. In the meantime, with each exposure, the idea of anonymity and pseudonymity is gaining powerful friends. Also, a long time ago a major foe of anonymity was Dick Depew. An article came out on him in the WSJ that made him look awfully silly. He is roundly considered one of the more legendary net crackpots today. === I'd also like to point out that the recent Rimm job affair is another "net positive" for the net. Rimm has been so utterly thoroughly discredited and blackened by his own personality and background, as reported by Brock Meeks recently, it is amazingly hilarious. Rimm has become the laughingstock of cyberspace in the way that Cantor and Siegal were We could not have asked for a better setup for embarrassing and humiliating the media into realizing the core issues involving pornography on the internet. If someone did this intentionally, it would have been considered a brilliant trap. Time and DeWitt have been savaged by very reputable people, and I'm sure they consider the article a fiasco from a credibility standpoint. Any magazine that covers pornography in cyberspace in the future will be very gunshy and will not be so flippant, if they can stand poking the hornet's nest at all. === Another area is in the bills that are being introduced in congress. It would seem these are a fiasco from the point of view of those interested in cyberspace. But there are backlashes even in congress. Was it Markey that introduced a bill that made cyberspace off limits to future draconian legislation? All this also forces legislators to figure out what the hell they are dealing with, and they are finding out what their own authority in the matter is. I think the wise ones may figure out that if they don't play nice, we may take our marbles away and go play with someone else. D.Frissell said something profound in his letter to the editor, "Congress thinks the Internet can be controlled. We who built it, and continue to build it, think it cannot be. It will be interesting to see who is right". His comparing it with the ideas in the declaration of independence, that "when a government no longer serves the people, they have a right to overthrow it", is extremely apropos in cyberspace, where it may be more possible than ever for those who desire freedom to make those who are apposed to it, completely irrelevant. T.May suggest that we just give up the fight in congress, saying that bills can be introduced faster than we can fight them. I agree with the observation but not the conclusion. Bills have a very hard time getting to be law. They are very fragile in initial stages, and at these points they can indeed be killed with a little pressure in the right spots. We are learning where those spots are. At this point I think it is not in the interests of those promoting cyberspace to try to evade congress. So far, it has not proved itself to be completely hostile to the point of trying to shut down cyberspace to the degree it does not fit its own agenda. And as long as they are not outright enemies, some could be turned into powerful promoters. The idea of abandoning educating/influencing congress entirely seems like a kind of unhealthy nihilism to me. There are allies in congress and there are people listening there. Their unawareness seems amazingly proportional to the cluelessness of the general population about cyberspace (and I see extremely encouraging signs both are rapidly diminishing). The bills seem to becoming more desperate and draconian in their language. This is a sign of fear and dread on the side that seeks to regulate bits. They are in a tricky position, because the more draconian the language, the less likely it is to be passed and taken seriously. People become suspicious and hypersensitive to the infractions. To a large degree, many parts in the government only gain their power through secrecy. As people become more aware of the power flow, they disrupt and seize it themselves. Every bill that has more desperate language is the other side revealing their secret agenda, to control thought, which I think reasonable people are increasingly considering and recognizing as bogus and bankrupt. Congress will eventually polarize into being generally promoting of cyberspace, or outrightly hostile to it. Cyberspace will inevitably escape its grip if congress goes in this direction. To use Zen analogies again, there is the idea that water is the most powerful force on the earth, because it simply flows around that which opposes it. I find that cyberspace is wholly analogous. In fact it seems to me that cyberspace would give Lao Tzu a whole new cuttingly apt metaphor for his philosophies!! === So the next time that you rant about how some bill or another means the Death of the Net, or the police investigating a remailer means the downfall of cryptoanarchy, or a lousy article with a zillion distortions comes out, think again. The greatest cypherpunk victories are emerging through what would appear at first to be the "blackest" moments. viva la cryptoanarchy!!! ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ \ / ~/ |\| | | |> | : : : : : : Vladimir Z. Nuri : : : : <vznuri(a)netcom.com> \/ ./_.| | \_/ |\ | : : : : : : ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/vz/vznuri/home.html

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