December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Esther Dyson in NYT
by dshayer＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Todays (sunday 7-16-95) NYT Magazine has an excellent (IMHO) article by Esther Dyson on why the government should not regulate the net. Its not written for techies like us, its written for normal non-wired people, like our parents and our senators. The article is clear, easy to follow, makes it points well, and refrains from overused analogies about highways and roadkill. So next time you're at a loss for words arguing with some clueless offline luser about why porn and pedophiles really aren't rampant all over the net, show them this article. David +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |David Shayer dshayer(a)netcom.com | |Sentient Software / Symantec | |"Spam is not a verb." | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Mods to Dining Cryptographers: legal questions...
by monty.harder＠famend.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

PF> spend on software patents. I don't, and don't mean to say that _he_ PF> goes around stealing ideas from other people and patenting them.) PF> PF> How do I do this and protect myself from the people who do have the PF> money to go through the intellectual property courthouse game? IANAL, but... Create a detatched signature certificate of your idea, and post =that= here. Get some of us to sign it I, _______, a resident of _______ County, __________, do hereby attest that I recieved the above certificate on _____ ___,1995. [plaintext for non-crypto-aware folks] and email to you. Also, make two hard copies, including hard copies of our notarizations you recieve back . Put one of them in an envelope with a 3.5" floppy of everything, and address the =back= to yourself. Go into the post office, and ask the clerk to hand-cancel the envelope, so that the cancellation goes half across the flap and the rest on the envelope. When you get this from yourself in the mail, you put it in your safety- deposit box or equivalent. This way, when you open the envelope in the presence of the Judge/Jury you have the word of the US Postal Service that you had X idea on Y date, not to mention the corroborrating e-signatures. If Z were to claim authorship, you could ask Z to prove it by forging your signature on another document. This could go a long way toward proving the value of PGP signature to the Unwashed Masses, =and= illustrate the danger of GACK + corrupt gummit agent (in the light of the Ruby Ridge and Waco hearings, people will be =quite= sensitive to the fact that agents can and do abuse their power). In fact, the ability for us to be able to attest to your possession of Document X on Date Y, without any of us ever seeing X itself, is one of the most powerful uses of digital signatures. I can see Phil Z. being called as an expert witness, to establish the mechanism involved. Joe Sixpack needs to hear Dan Blather mention this on the Evening News. OK, not Blather, but Koppel would do it. Maybe even John Stossel on 20/20. This is what we need to be pushing to the Luddite crowd: The very new technology that frightens them, because they percieve it as out of their control, brings with it new means for people to take control. Even if you lost your case on some other grounds, it would be one of the best PR bits for PGP I can think of. * Don't say "Gun Control", it's "Victim Disarmament". --- * Monster(a)FAmend.Com *

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PGP FAQ
by ENRIQUE S. IGNARRA 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Could someone here politely send me some email on where i could get an updated PGP FAQ? I have an old one for v2.3a. I'd like to get an updated one. But where the old one says to go, the directory no longer exists. Thanks! Enrique s0496872(a)dominic.barry.edu

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Re: Root Causes
by jgrubs＠voxbox.norden1.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- liberty(a)gate.net (Jim Ray) writes: > Amendment IX -- "The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights > shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." > > [The right to write code was among many rights NOT enumerated.] > Most importantly, it includes the right to decide what the other unenumerated rights are..... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: http://norden1.com/~jim/sylvania.html iQCVAwUBMAm//N74r4kaz3mVAQHMJAP/RTmdhZc63J6XzL8FfKK6wk9RrXgcOZ4c kZHGqYzOo0ZJKbmsugOwEjerpGsbeIUu3SzM+vrVA+BaWHLaufELSmh7AQW4/FcY XyKv3Zu/JBBxEca+H0qbix/q433c+2r2iKJ1p8p1c8jgK/L+c66cJiTgWGMt2vPZ XBBMaYAOIUg= =DQyv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- WebCasters(tm) James C. Grubs jgrubs(a)voxbox.norden1.com 6817 Maplewood Avenue Tel.: 419-882-2697 Sylvania, Oh 43560 Fax: 419-885-2814 Internet consulting, HTML programing, Information brokering

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Mixmaster@obscura.com back with new keys.
by loki＠obscura.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mixmaster(a)obscura.com is back. Obscura crashed last weekend, taking all data with it. The remailer is running again but the secret keys were lost. This remailer is running Mixmaster 2.0.1 and the latest Ghio type1 remailer for cypherpunk messages. Here is the mixmaster key: mix mixmaster(a)obscura.com db91418edac3a4d7329feaee0b79c74f 2.0.1 -----Begin Mix Key----- db91418edac3a4d7329feaee0b79c74f 258 AATL25WGQY5CMM0/xBjYtuN6IT75h+aBQwwKqZZc isOrqdsl8HWAzARrB0iAtcr34c2qqPBzSRNa5UE8 d3jOYu/wp9K9M5abUSRogcDl7gkPlqxc+e72SdKd 2Gdgib8VDGVLpJdaPk4uSY/pkmsYB30OaQH3W8dU PPciTvSJKAYcTQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQAB -----End Mix Key----- and here is the pgp key: -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQBtAzAGIaQAAAEDAJpPdFihCI1Cfpc8njkqOSma/GVvS5nodpTnnff3B3RuZWJN bEvxC3s8TATo6f5JdXqOkZBXQCK+aHke4LKw+MGNNXBYeWH60NZ0IihVThHeyYqL f4ZQNJHlMlFfDrQEgQAFEbQqTWl4bWFzdGVyIFJlbWFpbGVyIDxtaXhtYXN0ZXJA b2JzY3VyYS5jb20+iQEVAwUQMAnzn/Pzr81BVjMVAQEzRQgAk3ansqZb2y8orEim 0igHJpA22J15l6tu5ZihHpnBbXJEqdDKvsp6P/LG+ZDBXa8bGGg7RxZ1xXFqVWSO kkv9iqcoMWB14VHzC5A6MckhkpUGqPt+HMyUEW/JnGzZ202Z4aaVXOjXMsLf5jo1 VIp94/8nQen+QJThpJLmaNGgl8z60skyXzbtoz93Wy6IZAQYYImeswSrYukO1wC6 FXy0/a3AkDjd7mJiCtA2m7tTxCZr2EBlSu4VemG1APmCTjh2f/wyXNU1iXmTDb7N QcplTAwpROrdvtBeslE+bzYqWZqipcFHHyW9W6YUVIr18cojt6k5GEVzI9WCEgAO v+kA1YkAlQMFEDAJ82xVZJN3Wse4ZQEBc7gD/izVs3+jXs3Ze+U+ZVmfO6guUcMU RB4VsNS6n5BHRm6KS7qXCXxHYc0tehkuHVuGD0riSaS232P0NNmp1D4dzXtUVQCY BZfMbWX4EooqHGGRAoqPGZuke8pZYfVGARUKFQB8+zqKGhCum8z1sbUPUgzR5bie Un9sktwsWEJEIcNoiQB1AwUQMAnxfeUyUV8OtASBAQF/5gL+OksEqwyBE+pUZCmN 1AXAmKlRxkd6gybJJl8lXOOa4KVGmSEroYW8pac+TlraJb6j90LvbqJ+7PHuMtHT 84uRna183HDqKOd6NMdwTTimE6ZGueGBB7mwIysaTU8oCZ66 =0s+r -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -Lance -- Lance Cottrell loki(a)obscura.com PGP 2.6 key available by finger or server. Mixmaster, the next generation remailer, is now available! http://obscura.com/~loki/Welcome.html or FTP to obscura.com "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come." --Nietzsche

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Re: ECM list.
by Bryce Wilcox 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > For example, you might be holding $85.73 in digicash (having played the > various slot machine pages, maybe bought a sky photograph from the Bradford > telescope). That's just about right. > What would it take for you to buy more digicash? How about to sell it? Right now I am thinking of e$ as a "collectors item" or a fun thing to brag about in some distant year. I'm offering US$1.00 for e$15.00, but I will quit offering that price once I run out of US$ or decide that I have enough e$! I think that the ecm market is probably composed of very few people who mostly want to buy, and is therefore not a high-volume market! If the ecm market got a link from the DigiCash home page (which I'm sure it could do) then you would probably get lots of people who just got their free e$100.00 and who are willing to sell part of it after having experienced the wonders of the slot machines and the "e$0.01-per-move tic-tac-toe" games. Could we set up a WWW version of the ecm market, listing latest offers to anyone with a WWW browser? Things might really pick up-- at least for us buyers! I'm also considering other strategies for gaining e$-- offering a service on the DigiCash "cybershops" page, or just going to all my e-mail using friends, showing them how to get their free e$100.00, and then begging them to give me half of it. (Finder's fee? Friendly gift?) Possibly I shouldn't have posted the above and given my e$-collecting competitors the idea, because eventually DigiCash is going to quit giving out freebies! Hopefully my friends will get on the ball and acquire their freebies before that point! :-) [mental note to add some of said friends to the Cc: line...] Bryce P.S. Oh great. My "friends" are asking for the $1.00 for e$15.00 deal... signatures follow /=============------------ Bryce Wilcox, Programmer [THIS SPACE FOR RENT] bryce.wilcox(a)colorado.edu ------------=============/ E-mail is between you and me-- use PGP! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 iQCVAwUBMAoTRZCUT4gUihHlAQEBMgQAueueOvkxSsVRBS20k49zUhOr8wa/CKcD vqsKLhHoeWhrXuYMKV5KTGgQ86TLwiu5n1C0fjomcJ+86UT1Py09i+yfeBj956hH sMFoGHgu4jKtQPZ94FsmsCzfDXPF6htnuOnQYjSrAydckomZoiQfPICDFRGeiSTp FbXeDMRMrMs= =1z8A -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Mods to Dining Cryptographers: legal questions...
by stewarts＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:02 AM 7/15/95 -0500, Phil Fraering wrote: >I'm sorry if I was a little mysterious about my reference to >another use or mode of a DC-net; I'd _love_ to tell the rest of >you flat-out, and put the idea in the public domain, but I'm >not sure I _CAN_. ..... >Are there any patents on Dining-Cryptographers networks that could >interfere with the placing in the public domain, or the patenting, of >an improvement to the network system? Case 1 - you want to be able to patent your stuff yourself. Case 2 - you don't. For Case 1, I can't help you much, but US patent law lets you apply for a patent on something within one year of publication (most other countries don't allow that - if you publish before applying, you don't get to patent it.) So publish. For Case 2, publish. You could get fancy and use surety.com's date-stamping service to keep a copy of what and when you published. If the material you've developed was already invented, and patented, by someone else, it's still ok to publish it, you just can't use the stuff (except for research, etc.) (I've been burned by this one; I _thought_ my idea seemed obvious enough that somebody else should have already thought of it first :-) So if you're trying to put something in the public domain, you may want to put a footnote in it saying that you're not making any claims about other people's previous patent applications, etc. So, anyway, what's your new idea? # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, Freelance Information Architect, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com

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Re: Deployment
by stewarts＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > So, anyone want to volunteer to port Privtool to Windows ? > Uh, pardon my ignorance, but what is privtool, and why is it > a good thing to port it to windows? > (As compared to the task of integrating PGP into microsofts > mail tool.) It's an open-system mail tool resembling Sun's mailtool with PGP support added. Open-system tools are one of those vanguard things :-) (So are convenient GUI-development tools.) I no longer have a nearby Sun machine to play on, so I haven't played with it, but if it's got a well-done interface it's worth porting or stealing concepts from to include in other systems. I've heard that Microsoft's new mail tools are far less brain-damaged than the Microsoft Mail I've grown to know and hate, which assumes any message that's more than a few lines will be an attached document with maybe some optional intro and leftover mail headers, and chokes on messages with more than 30K of text in the body (choking badly on more than 64K). (Apparently, part of the reason for this evil is the fault of Visual Basic and/or Visual C++, which are convenient GUI development tools...) On the other hand, integrating it into Free Eudora for Windows would be pleasant, if that's doable (I forget it source is available.) # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, Freelance Information Architect, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com

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Re: Anti-Electronic Racketeering Act of 1995 (fwd)
by stewarts＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:59 PM 7/16/95 +0100, Andrew Spring wrote: >RICO question: i thought that the idea of RICO is to confiscate assets of >racketeers that are derived from criminal activities. PGP and remailer >software is distributed free. so would RICO seizures even apply (yes I >know this doesnt' always stop the FBI)? You _were_ using that software on a _computer_ weren't you? Guess it's one of your racketeer's tools, so we'll have to take it for ourselves, er, um, for evidence and protection of national security.... # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, Freelance Information Architect, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com

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Re: A Chronology on crypto bans
by stewarts＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 04:08 PM 7/16/95 -0400, Dave Banisar wrote: >Someone asked why is there such a flurry recently on banning crypto in >recent months. This is not a recent issue. There have been almost non-stop >attempts for the last 15 years. True, though there have been more and louder calls for banning crypto as it becomes more widely used, and as the Internet and electronic commerce make its use more relevant. The number of cats running around outside of bags has been increasing, so the effort of the politicians to herd them back in has become more and more noticeable. A lot of it has been good public relations but the Good Guys as well - back in the late 70s, when I started following it, crypto was mostly for spooks, bankers, and academic math nerds*; PGP and the government's persecution of Phil have made a lot of people aware that the stakes are high and the Bad Guys are serious, and the Clipper Chip sounded enough like "The Feds want to tap my phone" that the general public could understand, a bit, that this was something that affected them... It's also been technology - real crypto needs computers, and computers have gone from million-dollar room-fillers that you might use at work or university to appliances you can buy at WalMart, like tv sets, which your kids use for school, if you don't count game machines, which your kids can buy at K-mart... Suddenly a third of the country's got a machine they can do real crypto on, and for 10 bucks a month they can be on a world-wide email network. And it's mostly the _rich_ third of the country, who might want to do their home banking somewhere a bit less taxing than before. Oh, yeah, there's also drugs - folks might want to use the Home Shopping Internet for more than just fake jewelry :-) * at the time, I was an academic math nerd designing banking networks at the phone company, and my department also did studies for spooks... # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, Freelance Information Architect, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com

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