December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Closed Account
by cfrye＠mason1.gmu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

ACCOUNT cfrye(a)mason1.gmu.edu IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE. IF THIS IS A LIST, THEN PLEASE REMOVE THIS ADDRESS.

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Re: Closed Account
by merriman＠metronet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hmmmph. It looks like I'm not the only one getting these things..... Dave Merriman > >ACCOUNT cfrye(a)mason1.gmu.edu IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE. >IF THIS IS A LIST, THEN PLEASE REMOVE THIS ADDRESS. > >>From owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com Thu Dec 1 15:58:04 1994 >Received: from toad.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP > id QQxslf15044; Thu, 1 Dec 1994 15:56:42 -0500 >Received: by toad.com id AA03659; Thu, 1 Dec 94 12:55:37 PST >Received: from ducie.cs.umass.edu by toad.com id AA03653; Thu, 1 Dec 94 12:55:31 PST >Received: (from lmccarth@localhost) by ducie.cs.umass.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ id PAA23759 for cypherpunks(a)toad.com; Thu, 1 Dec 1994 15:56:00 -0500 >From: "L. McCarthy" <lmccarth(a)ducie.cs.umass.edu> >Message-Id: <199412012056.PAA23759(a)ducie.cs.umass.edu> >Subject: Is it happening already ? >To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com (Cypherpunks Mailing List) >Date: Thu, 1 Dec 1994 15:55:58 -0500 (EST) >Reply-To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com (Cypherpunks Mailing List) >X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Length: 1204 >Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com >Precedence: bulk - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Finger merriman(a)feenix.metronet.com for PGP public key and fingerprint. PGP encrypted Email welcome, encouraged, and preferred. "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy

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Re: "Cyherpunks Named Official Signing Authority"
by jrochkin＠cs.oberlin.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 3:05 PM 12/01/94, Eric Hughes wrote: >WARNING: The following paragraph does not have direct relevance to the >issue at hand. It discusses servers which might verify signatures, >which my current proposal does not have in it. > >What I have realized in the interim is, that if a server is to verify >a signature, the server should sign not the message but rather the >signature. After all, the signature is what was being verified, not >any property of the message. The user can still detect message >alteration, by first verifying the sig-on-sig, and then comparing the >hash value in the original sig to a hash on the message. I echo Eric's warning, that I also don't mean this to have anything to do with the current thread. The benefit of having the list sign the entire message, is that even if people _don't_ sign the message themselves (assuming they aren't being requried to ;) ), there's still something left to sign. The list would be signing to indicate that, yes, this message did pass through cypherpunks(a)toad.com. Regardless of whether the author signed the message himself or not, completely different issue.

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Re: FYI: Eudora and PGP
by jamiel＠sybase.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>I have heard from the (one of the?) author(s) of Mac Eudora, on another Just Stever Dorner. Eudora is his baby. >to support applescript) will be supported to. I still haven't figured out >if ViaCrypt MacPGP uses the same applescript suite as MacPGP 2.6ui, which >is the neccesary detail there. Currently, it does (according to a Viacrypt employee and one other person on this list). >Or at least consider this post a welcome reprive from the Mandatory >Signature Wars. Intentionally posting off topic, eh Jonathan? :) -j

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How do *I* use PGP?
by TheElusiveMatthew 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It has been my belief that there isn't an effective way for me to use PGP, but with all the hubbub, I thought it might be worthwhile to verify this. My internet access is through a personal account provided by my employer. It is on a machine used exclusively by employees of the University of Illinois (no student accounts). My primary access to this account is through my IBM xt (dos 3.3) at work. This machine is occasionally used by others and is outside of my control. I also use many of the public access Win/Mac machines on campus. I have no pc of my very own. Is there an effective way for me to use PGP? -- Matt Hewn <matthewn(a)uiuc.edu> -- Information is not knowledge; knowledge is not wisdom; wisdom is not truth. Truth is absolute.

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Is it happening already ?
by L. McCarthy 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I hope this is not the start of a trend toward meaningless signatures along the lines I mentioned recently. Hal Finney, who commands more respect from me than does anyone else on the list to date, has just started to PGP sign his messages to the list. However, so far they haven't been signed with a key I've been able to locate. AFAIK, he hasn't sent it to the list. Portal does not accept external fingers. I requested "GET Finney" from one of the key servers at MIT, but all I received was the remailer key I had before. Does someone else have Hal's key ? I could send him mail directly, but I'd prefer to get the key from someone else if it's out there (to learn from my mistake), or else raise this issue again if it's deliberately unavailable. - -L. Futplex McCarthy; PGP key by finger or server "Don't say my head was empty, when I had things to hide...." --Men at Work -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 iQCVAwUBLt44O2f7YYibNzjpAQFBQwQAuN3BTSjJnZVnWgsu7WUvsw2ZnE336qqy dFJAkfV7Mdfds3+e3uyR4xHR73TG08lq5Scsohq5D7tOshndzyuVmvKKfRIgSifo hOVkIFuSNjM5Gphnbdcao8NccQMAkZ1CMWysqsI9kAQUBHEXHiUgjAtnsHw8pbL9 JW4GJoo3ADk= =8W2C -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: E-money Good or Bad?
by jamiel＠sybase.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>The following is not flamebait!!! Heh... Nice try. -j

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Re: Is it happening already ?
by Hal 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here is my key. I just sent it to the keyservers. I hadn't had a chance to sign it with my secure key yet. Hal -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQBNAy7bVn8AAAECAPRhqHLha5WFaFQw0/b1Wn8XCuHokjvbEeJbg5UPHs6fBE3i uZTmAY5aFqnFXOdNGackOOTYu3tEGcwsm07L0wEABRG0F0hhbCBGaW5uZXkgaW5z ZWN1cmUga2V5iQCVAwUQLt5K9agTA69YIUw3AQED0gQAoORH1weDQ+L2gefrRauI GLqDlNy0nJQDo5wgdJky5Pd7vUJalwxGuqnQG1QV+ejnRYEN7wEoYQRjv21tTos9 nbUtWAoINrEVjWHpG7AXIRNyoCJtket9mQ2jz9QNTD9Nt8JsedJlqLuT7RMLN1tb /cIYnrBCyuTCek4fRbTYkSU= =G3nF -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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More on ASIS...
by Ian Farquhar 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I was told this morning that the ASIS post had been reposted to several other lists, including several social ones. Interesting... Anyway, there was a followup to the incident on the radio this morning (2BL, is anyone was listenning): Gareth Evans (Minister for Foreign Affairs) has announced that no documents were irretrievably lost in the fire, as everything which was lost in the fire was also duplicated elsewhere. In addition to this, the fire is being referred to the ACT coroner's office, as despite the original claim by the Federal Government that there were no suspicious circumstances, the Australian Federal Police have decided to do pursue this action. It is not clear yet whether this is a matter of proceedure, or whether suspicious circumstances are suspected. The government's original claim was produced with surprisingly little time for investigation, it has been noted. Ian.

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setting up an non remailer
by Thomas J. Bryce 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

setting up an anon remailer To those who might know the answer.... I'm running a power mac here, and I have an ethernet port and my own IP address. To do email, I telnet to my University's unix system. I was thinking, this sort of arrangement might allow me to set up an anon remailer. Does anyone know if I can do this? If the technology is available? If there is a way to do this from a macintosh, I'd like to give it a try. Of course, I would ask the sys admins if necessary for permission. (i.e., if it can come straight to my IP address then it isn't necessary I assume). Thanks Tom

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