December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Bart Nagel in Mondo
by Dave Otto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Check out the lead article in the "Summer 94" issue of _Mondo2000_. It is a spoof by Bart Nagel that starts off sounding like steganography. The article basically states that the photo-journalist-publisher industry is proposing that all images be encoded using stego techniques to contain unique identifiers that would prevent copy infringements. The article starts in a *VERY* believable fashion before trailing off into an obvious spoof. Very well done. Dave Otto -- dave(a)marvin.jta.edd.ca.gov -- daveotto(a)acm.org "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" [the Great Oz] {I *DO* have a life, it's just that my kids are using it right now!}

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PGP Header
by trollins＠debbie.telos.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

With the PGP Header getting larger in the next release (4096 bits) there is room to place a short message in this header as opposed to just the IDEA data area. Do you think that this might have some use ? -tom

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Returned mail: warning: cannot send message for 4 hours
by Mail Delivery Subsystem 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

********************************************** ** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY ** ** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE ** ********************************************** The original message was received at Fri, 17 Jun 1994 13:45:53 -0500 from illuminati.io.com [198.4.60.10] ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- <cslaw(a)pericles.com> (transient failure) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- <cslaw(a)pericles.com>... Deferred: Connection timed out during initial connection with pericles.com. Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 5 days old ----- Original message follows ----- Subject: Green card information, please. From: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 13:45:53 -0500 Apparently-To: <cslaw(a)pericles.com> I am interested in your services. Please send me more information. Thank you. ----- Thomas A. Douglas "Just another bump on the Information Superhighway."

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Re: Bart Nagel in Mondo
by dmandl＠lehman.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: Dave Otto <dave(a)marvin.jta.edd.ca.gov> > > Check out the lead article in the "Summer 94" issue of _Mondo2000_. > It is a spoof by Bart Nagel that starts off sounding like steganography. > > The article basically states that the photo-journalist-publisher industry > is proposing that all images be encoded using stego techniques to contain > unique identifiers that would prevent copy infringements. The article > starts in a *VERY* believable fashion before trailing off into an obvious > spoof. Very well done. It's not that far-fetched, though. There are filters for Adobe Photoshop that will do this sort of thing right now--they'll imbed copyright symbols in the image, for example (there was just a big discussion of this very issue on the Photoshop list). A more sophisticated technique might be hiding an unspoofable signed message somewhere in the image. This is just the flip side of the LSB stego techniques cypherpunks have been talking about all along. I wouldn't be surprised if this kind of practice becomes widespread as electronic image manipulation becomes more universal. It won't stop the pirates, though. --Dave.

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mathematical skills
by perry＠imsi.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm giving up on trying to teach people math. Those who believe that its possible to find Jim's magic "is the key bigger or smaller" algorithm without being able to factor are all entitled to their opinion. Have fun. Ignorance is its own reward. However, I've got to say that these discussions are occuring with increasing frequency. Between jerks proposing newer and better linear congruential generators as stream ciphers, fools asking why they can't use books as sources for "one-time pads" (sic), and now fools asking (indirectly) why it isn't possible to find a function that will let them crack any RSA key they like in logarithmic time while not having the result applicable to factoring, I feel rather sad. Its depressing commentary on what cypherpunks has become. Perry

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CRYPTO EXPORT LEGISL
by bmorris＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com FF> were axed with an unbelievable 13-0 unanimous vote, in clear blatant FF> Look, something is going on here that doesn't meet the eye. Nothing is FF> ever unanimous in Washington. These guys were told something by somebo The fix was in... NSA probably broke some arms. And that is how the game is played and what we are up against. * RM 1.4 B0037 *

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Re: Self-Righteous, Self-Anointed Defenders of the Public Trust (fwd)
by nobody＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 05:17:24 +0000 From: "Martin L. Schoffstall" <schoff(a)us.psi.com> To: weber(a)world.std.com (Bob Weber), com-priv(a)psi.com Subject: Re: Self-Righteous, Self-Anointed Defenders of the Public Trust I'm encouraged that you support their first amendment rights! At Internet world in California a couple of weeks ago during a press conference with some Internet luminaries under the kleig lights of CNN and the McNeil/Leher report I saw first amendment issues tossed out the window - by the luminaries. I don't intend to defend either of these individuals (other than their 1st amendment rights, Gordon can tell you himself how we get along like oil and water) but I think you are lumping two very different people together with two very different objectives. Gordon's role is that of an investigative reporter, he ferrets out FACTS and then creates surmises as to the why's. It you read his publications and messages it is pretty easy to differentiate the facts from the surmises. This is appropriate. Gordon reported a fact which IS interesting to many people - a "NewYork" NAP in NJ almost in PA very close to an infamous NSA facility. Here is another one to add to his collection - in 1992 MFS bought a competive CAP in DC who's principal fiber plant connected many Federal facilities including all the hush hush ones. This company had many security cleared staff and facilities. These facilites are now merged with the commercial MFS facilities in a manner that is NOT known to the general public. NSF has openly wiretapped the backbone of the NSFNet since day one and is quite proud of it. There is a clear interest in the Federal Police Forces and the current administration to wiretap every communications device manufactured in the US, as the FBI's chief counsel, he's going to defend Americans through microchips. The postal service is going to issue us all ID cards, and the FINCEN is all setup to take in all banking transactions in realtime, next step all electronic commercial financial transactions. Historically both the NSA and the FBI have wiretapped outside of the warrant process and outside of the law and in the case of the NSA domestically which is both illegal and outside of their charter. How does this all fit together? Don't know, I'm just a dirt farmer from upstate NY, but Gordon's got a PHD so he'll continue to work on his surmises, and others will too. Having the facts is a good thing, old Jefferson would have probably agreed. One of the requirements that every Internet service provider should put on their NAP contract should be that the NAP provider will not wiretap, and will not aid or abet any wiretap knowingly outside of a federal warrant. Many people have lied for their country so this is not by any means a sure test, but it is a right first step. Since you questioned both of their motivations (personal grudges), let me question yours - are you owned in anyway by the US government or under their influence (even financially) to post your message binding those two very different people together? Have your or do you hold a Security clearance. Or maybe you hold a personal grudge against Gordon? Undoubtedly the answer is no except for the security clearance, and you can always lie for your country. It just seems strange that you would think that no one is interested in wiretapping issues in the current enviroment where the media talks about it weekly. Sitting here in the PSI Tokyo office the Japan Times has articles on it. I know you don't live under a rock. Marty

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PGP in July Byte, p.193
by bart＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A very positive, technically astute discussion by William Stallings, stallings(a)acm.org, who concludes: "PGP is young, strong, and coming on. It is already being widely used, and its growth is being fueled by the rapid growth in Internet use and the increasing reliance on E-mail for everything from legal documents to love letters. It is already the practice of many people to include their PGP fingerprint in E-mail messages. Expect to see more of this and to see such fingerprints appearing in print, as one does with this article, in the future.

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swipe working on infinity.c2.org
by sameer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I managed to get swipe into the kernel here at infinity.c2.org-- If any sites would like to install swipe on their systems and setup encrypted channels between our sites, and then do some experimentation with it, maybe some development (I don't really have time to develop stuff.. but..), please mail me. -- sameer Voice: 510-841-2014 Network Administrator Pager: 510-321-1014 Community ConneXion: The NEXUS-Berkeley sameer(a)c2.org

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Chauming for Cash
by mpd＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Has anyone successfully obtained a copy of the software for David Chaum's DigiCash system? He has it for sale on his Web page at http://digicash.support.nl/ but apparently it can only be purchased with electronic money. A classic chicken and egg situation. :) I sent him some mail but so far have not gotten a reply. -- Mike Duvos $ PGP 2.3a Public Key available $ mpd(a)netcom.com $ via Finger. $

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